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Which is to say, the main driver of McCain's heroism was not the fact of his capture, it's how he comported himself under circumstances more trying than 99.9% of us could imagine, let alone endure.
1 posted on 07/19/2015 4:17:39 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Maybe he got beat up, I don’t know and neither do these people. What we do know is that he ignored veterans who were being abused an neglected. He’s supported Obama in every single effort to undermine the American people. And with his Keating 5 history, he totals up to a total scumbag.

So I don’t care what happened to him in Vietnam either way, whether he cooperated with the enemy or acted like a hero, it doesn’t make up for the almost 60 years of abuse by this man. All the years that vets were mistreated while McCain lived it up in rich hotels, vacations, anything he wanted from his money guys.

In fact, even if he was considered a hero then, he’s sure the hell not now.


31 posted on 07/19/2015 4:48:15 PM PDT by Kenny
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With all due respect, I don’t agree.


33 posted on 07/19/2015 4:48:29 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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I can’t get the facts on Hillary’s Benghazi E-mails about those American Heroes..........who died defending American Soil, which is what an Embassy represents in a foreign land.

I’m bored with Trump’s mistake, and waiting for Hillary’s mistake(s) to fact the bright sunshine ....where are the attack JournOlistas on this subject ?

Trump coverage is a shell game by the corrupt media.


42 posted on 07/19/2015 4:54:40 PM PDT by 4Speed
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It looks like Trump has stepped into “QUICK SAND” that he’ll have a problem getting out off. As long as he stuck to the ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, he had a lot of people on his side. But you can’t shame a military man like John McCain for his service. He could’ve attacked McCain for his stand on illegal immigrants and people would stand by him. I don’t know how he’ll get out of this one?


46 posted on 07/19/2015 4:58:56 PM PDT by gingerbread
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I don’t care what McCain did in Vietnam 50 years ago. I care that he has consistently and methodically sold out conservatives for at least the last 20...


48 posted on 07/19/2015 5:02:10 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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"more trying than 99.9% of us could imagine, let alone endure. "

Really McCain is one of only one out of a thousand that could endure being a POW? So out of random sample of 1,000 men only a John McCain could have survived being a POW.

Decorum prevents me from telling you what I was taught to do should I become a POW.

I am sadden seeing what gets posted here thee days. I blame AOL for ruining the internet.

49 posted on 07/19/2015 5:02:25 PM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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#50!


51 posted on 07/19/2015 5:06:13 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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Just because someone wrote a book doesn’t mean what he wrote was truth.

McCain acted as Chaplain? Isn’t he an atheist? I know I’ve never heard him utter the word “God”. Maybe I’m wrong.


54 posted on 07/19/2015 5:16:10 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (I'll vote for a democrat before I'll vote for another rino.)
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“the main driver of McCain’s heroism was not the fact of his capture, it’s how he comported himself under circumstances more trying”

I believe that. I’d heard this before but you never know what’s the truth, but I do believe McCain comported himself heroically when a prisoner. It’s really hard to know what to believe.


58 posted on 07/19/2015 5:26:21 PM PDT by cymbeline
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McCain was a POW, yes.
Why are his POW buddies, standing as close to him, all these years, as one stands next to a skunk?
Why are there recorded interviews by those guys that put the stink on McCain, if he was so great a POW?
Being a POW, you become a pawn, a bargaining chip, for your enemy, to use for their own means, which lacks any Webster definition of ‘hero’.
Beat up some? Yes.
Made to make apologies on film for your actions? Yes.
Act of valor? No.


62 posted on 07/19/2015 5:39:37 PM PDT by Terry L Smith
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Amen to that, but you’ll never convince the Trumpettes of that inconvenient little fact.


63 posted on 07/19/2015 5:42:36 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Liberalism is the poison ivy that infests the garden of society.)
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“I have tremendous respect for McCain but I don’t buy the war hero thing. Anybody can be captured. I thought the idea was to capture them. As far as I’m concerned he sat out the war.”

Nope. Not Donald Trump. Al Franken.


69 posted on 07/19/2015 6:09:46 PM PDT by kennedy (No relation to those other Kennedys.)
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Trump is being an @$$. While there is plenty to criticize McCain for, this is an unnecessary losing situation he has gotten into.

Other than that, I like Trump's plain speak.

74 posted on 07/19/2015 6:20:16 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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ping


75 posted on 07/19/2015 6:21:17 PM PDT by timestax (American Media = Domestic Enemy)
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Matt Welch has been going on MSNBC for two weeks to bash Donald Trump because he’s an open-borders homo.. Who gives a flying f**k what he thinks?


77 posted on 07/19/2015 6:22:00 PM PDT by montag813 (Bring Back Tar and Feathers)
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..... It would appear that The Donald has engaged in a little Shark Jumping on this one.


79 posted on 07/19/2015 6:35:27 PM PDT by R_Kangel ( "A Nation of Sheep ..... Will Beget ..... a Nation Ruled by Wolves.")
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http://conservativebyte.com/2015/07/fact-checking-the-trump-mccain-fight/

http://original.antiwar.com/giraldi/2013/05/29/john-mccain-war-hero-or-something-less/

http://www.nationalwriterssyndicate.com/content/view/349/2/hanoi-john-mccain-the-manchurian-candidate/

http://polidics.com/ethics/fellow-pows-say-john-mccain-was-a-coward-and-a-traitor-in-viet-nam.html

http://www.vvof.org/mccain_hides.htm

http://www.onecitizenspeaking.com/2013/06/did-north-viet-nam-collaborator-john-mccain-re-write-history-again.html

http://antiwar.com/blog/2008/09/27/mccain-betrayed-viet-pows/

http://takimag.com/article/judas_mccain_guy_somerset/print#axzz3gOCRtr7x


81 posted on 07/19/2015 6:45:35 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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well said. This should end the conversation about Trump...let the sleazebag drift off to nowhere.


82 posted on 07/19/2015 6:47:22 PM PDT by rrrod (Just an old guy with a gun in his pocket.)
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OK, I see Palinization in this article.

First: vulgar. That’s always a tip-off. Then the accusation of word salad. Of course, if you watch the video with all the pauses and gesticulations, the words quoted make sense. On paper, perhaps not so much.

But then Newt Gingrich spoke in eloquent sentences and he was accused of being a vulgar creep as well.

So conservatives (or populists) can’t win and perhaps they should just stick to who they really are and forget about Reason Magazine.


88 posted on 07/19/2015 7:07:27 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: "I should like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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Good grief....effin’ Reason is your source op-ed? Well done, seeky findy.


89 posted on 07/19/2015 7:09:18 PM PDT by RedHeeler
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