Posted on 07/14/2015 6:12:48 PM PDT by markomalley
Bernie Sanders is getting people pretty excited, excited enough to claim Jesus was a socialist. Sanders, the socialist senator from Vermont seeking the Democratic Party nomination, has been drawing larger crowds than expected of late. At one stop in Birmingham, Alabama, Sanders was expected to draw 30 people and instead drew 300, according to AL.com.
Among the excited crowd was 56-year-old Peter Stuart who gave the news outlet the socialist quote.
"He's got me excited in politics again," Stuart said. "He's not just in it for the money or his own career. To me, he's what politicians should be."
Stuart said he never volunteered for a campaign before, but has donated to Sanders and plans on giving "a little bit each month." He said Sanders' democratic socialist views are aligned with his Christian beliefs.
"I think Jesus was a socialist," he said, adding that Republicans "talk Christian values and family values, but they don't do them."
Sanders has been performing better than expected with his insurgent campaign. While still far back of frontrunner Hillary Clinton's 58% support in the latest CNN poll, Sanders is drawing support from 15% of Democratic voters, something few would have expected a few months ago.
NO, He was not!!
Ironically, socialism is an atheist parody of Christianity and Judaism.
This is why it is so easy for Christians and Jews to get caught up in socialism, because it promises the idealism of “The New Jerusalem”, or “The Garden of Eden”, paradise on Earth created by man for man.
But while the ends of socialism sound similar, in truth their path only leads to destruction and death. Because only in destruction and death is it ever possible to achieve their goals of perfection and equality. But they are more than willing for everyone else to die in pursuit of their fantasies.
Judas - the guy who was intent on saving money for the poor - is often mistaken for Jesus.
Yeshua was a Jewish Rabbi. He lived and breathed Torah. The scandal of his teaching was the idea that Israel was called to be the first fruits of the Redemption, and that having overcome the evil in the world, she was to present the Torah to the nations and accept whosoever would come and bring them under the “wings of the shekinah. He believed in the open door. However he warned that Torah violation would lead to the destruction of the man or the nation that refused to walk in it. He said “Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is near!”. In his day “repentance could only mean “return to Torah”.
Really.. who money did he take against their will and dole out?
had this discussion with a lefty a few years ago. The leftist couldn’t point to scripture which says the govt can bring utopia on earth. Then they go back to the old testement after they fail with proving the new testement is socialist. Then one points to the holes in that notion. Next the Leftists just say become a Leftist one can’t be a Christian and a Conservative...
“I think Jesus was a socialist,” he said”
Excuse me, but Jesus led people to God to be their sufficiency, not Rome.
Our Lord said His kingdom was not of this world.
.... Ya .... and he probably believes Adolph Hitler was the second coming of the Messiah too ... Right?.
I don’t remember Christ either demanding the Roman government be charitable, or demanding that private persons be charitable. I believe he preached the gospel of volunteering to be charitable. To give from love.
Nothing could be further from socialism, which is 100% dependent on extorting money from some to grant undeserved to others.
Matt 19: [21] Jesus saith to him: If thou wilt be perfect, go sell what thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come follow me. [22] And when the young man had heard this word, he went away sad: for he had great possessions.
[23] Then Jesus said to his disciples: Amen, I say to you, that a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven. [24] And again I say to you: It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of heaven. [25] And when they had heard this, the disciples wondered very much, saying: Who then can be saved?
Again, though, bear in mind that in the above, the government was not in any way involved.
And then there is this:
Matt 25: [31] And when the Son of man shall come in his majesty, and all the angels with him, then shall he sit upon the seat of his majesty. [32] And all nations shall be gathered together before him, and he shall separate them one from another, as the shepherd separateth the sheep from the goats: [33] And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on his left. [34] Then shall the king say to them that shall be on his right hand: Come, ye blessed of my Father, possess you the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. [35] For I was hungry, and you gave me to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave me to drink; I was a stranger, and you took me in:
[36] Naked, and you covered me: sick, and you visited me: I was in prison, and you came to me. [37] Then shall the just answer him, saying: Lord, when did we see thee hungry, and fed thee; thirsty, and gave thee drink? [38] And when did we see thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and covered thee? [39] Or when did we see thee sick or in prison, and came to thee? [40] And the king answering, shall say to them: Amen I say to you, as long as you did it to one of these my least brethren, you did it to me.
[41] Then he shall say to them also that shall be on his left hand: Depart from me, you cursed, into everlasting fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels. [42] For I was hungry, and you gave me not to eat: I was thirsty, and you gave me not to drink. [43] I was a stranger, and you took me not in: naked, and you covered me not: sick and in prison, and you did not visit me. [44] Then they also shall answer him, saying: Lord, when did we see thee hungry, or thirsty, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister to thee? [45] Then he shall answer them, saying: Amen I say to you, as long as you did it not to one of these least, neither did you do it to me. [46] And these shall go into everlasting punishment: but the just, into life everlasting.
True, this is not a commandment (as in a statement "thou shalt" or "thou shalt not") but it sure looks like a mandate to do so, as there were fairly hefty condemnations for those who had but didn't share.
Also, if you take a look at all the rules in the Old Testament (such as not gleaning fields so that the poor could come in and glean them, releasing Hebrew slaves in the seventh year, and so on), there were some pretty strict rules for dealing with the widows, the fatherless, and the poor. Not to say that those rules didn't get perverted over time, but they were put in place. Again, those were not mandates for the government to establish social assistance programs, but were mandates for the people to do what was right.
Nothing could be further from socialism, which is 100% dependent on extorting money from some to grant undeserved to others.
Exactly. There is a blessing involved for those who, in of themselves, give to the poor (see the Matt 25 quote above). When the government takes money at the point of a spear and then declares that others are "entitled", neither the giver nor the receiver are blessed.
Maybe Bernie should familiarize himself with how those closest to Jesus thought - perhaps he can start with “He who will not work, should not eat”.....
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