Posted on 07/07/2015 4:58:19 AM PDT by Freeport
Are electric cars damaging YOUR region? Maps reveal how EVs can be WORSE for the environment than gas-guzzling vehicles
In some areas, mostly in the east of the US, the impact of charging up EVs does more harm to the environment In monetary terms, electric cars are about half-a-cent worse per mile for the environment than gas-powered cars With gas cars, the worst damage to the environment, shown in red, took place in highly-populated urban areas
They have been hailed as the environmentally-friendly solution to getting around towns and cities.
But new research has found electric cars have an overall impact on pollution that may be worse than gas-guzzling vehicles.
The study looked at US vehicle emissions on a county-level to map where gas cars and electric vehicles cause the most damage to the environment.
It found that in the east of the US, the impact of charging up EVs overnight does more harm to the environment than going to the petrol station.
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EV's look to make sense in the West.
Makes sense for me in Atlanta.
I commute over 80 miles a day and save over $400 in gas per month.
Funny how in lib utopia’s like Seattle, LA, and SD there are hardly any EV’s to be found. They’re all over ATL though.
How much does it cost you for a full charge?
How much of your $400 gas savings are you spending on increased electricity consumption?
Atlanta pays 11 cents a KWH and the average EV uses 30 kilawat hours so it should be about $3.30 per hour of driving.
Ah, but the question I have always had about this so-called savings is: is that $400 cost just being pushed onto someone else? (I’m not saying I know the answer, just that we need to examine the money trail more closely!)
$2.50 per night if the car is at 0% battery.
I usually pull in with about a 60% charge though, so it’s much less than that.
My power bill has gone up about $30 per month, but based on a very detailed spreadsheet we created at work, I pay around 19¢ per gal electricity equivalent. Added bonus is that I get free charging at work. A lot of businesses around the Metro Atlanta area are installing these.
Just around $30 per month. I also get free charging at work (which is what made me get the car).
Well...the politicians finally decided to give folks like me a new $200 tax for roadwork since we don’t pay our “dues” in the gas tax.
the fallacy perpetratedby the article is that autos harm the enviroment
Do you run the A/C? What kind of EV is it?
What were you driving that cost you $400/month in gas, and what are you driving now?
Who's paying for the "free charging"?
EV’s only make sense environmentally if couple with a massive expansion of Nuclear power.
You may not be billed for it outright...but it is not free. Your employer is cutting something else, somewhere, to pay for it.
Very interesting!
Sorry for the questions, but if feasible, I might be interested for my next car.
What car do you own?
What’s the life cycle of the batteries?
Replacement cost?
Recycling costs?
Do the people who wallow in their “save the planet” smugness expect the greedy, air polluting rest of us to pay for the roads that they want to drive on? Other questions:
1. When you runout of “electricity” in the middle of nowhere, what then? You probably need a gas guzzling tow truck to come and get you (unless you have a hybrid).
2. Air conditioning?
Yes I do.
Nissan Leaf
I don’t own, I lease. You don’t want to own an EV because the battery technology is moving so quickly that a now 110 mile range on a Nissan Leaf will be bumped up to 135 miles next model year.
KIA’s soul is literally already there and Tesla is saying they’re coming up with one that will hover around 200 miles on a full charge in two years.
The batteries are just like a cell phone—lithium ion. So they break down and don’t go as far with time. I have a 2 year lease so it won’t matter but for those who own the replacement cost is up around $8,000 last I heard. Not feasible at all.
The way to go is a lease IMHO. I didn’t realize how much time I wasted filling up and going to the gas station until I got my Leaf. If your commute is under 45 miles, it’s worth a look. Blink is selling level 2 charging stations like crazy around the Southeast—cost of 2¢/30 seconds to charge where I live. Or you can plug it up at home at let it charge on your 100 amp service.
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