Posted on 06/27/2015 12:09:54 PM PDT by EveningStar
Mississippi is considering pulling the plug on issuing marriage licenses altogether after the Supreme Court struck down bans on gay marriage Friday morning.
As the state's governor and lieutenant governor condemned the court's decision, state House Judiciary Chairman Andy Gipson began studying ways to prevent gay marriage in Mississippi. Governor Phil Bryant said he would do all he can "to protect and defend the religious freedoms of Mississippi." To Bryant's point of doing "all" the state could do, Gipson, who is a Baptist minister, suggested removing marriage licenses entirely.
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Inheritance and health decision issues do not require marriage....because you still need powers of attorneys and executors and so on, and these are often NOT a spouse or even a relative in the first place.
Thus, that argument really doesn’t hold water. All these things have been handled for millions of couples who are not “married” just fine. So has division of property for unmarried people splitting up.
I wonder if the Mississippi lawmakers have a financial interest in the destination wedding business.
But a marriage would still be either legal, or illegal.
Nothing changes.
Then let’s cut them off, like I said. But that’s not a short or medium term solution.
Mississippi is thinking outside the system which I think is good. Maybe it doesn’t pan out and we’re stuck with “conserving” federal gay marriage. Maybe not. I like the willingness to consider alternatives outside the system. I suspect there may be a solution there.
First of all, I have no idea where any of my marriage “paper work” is.
Second, what is that, about a 50 year old Army statute? Do you even have any idea if it still holds?
Thirdly, to assume that nothing else will change if a domino effect of states getting out of the license business is just frankly foundationally flawed.
I am married and have no children and never will. Yet I get punished because I have no children. Maybe I should just start claiming a few and make the IRS prove I don't have them.
I'm sure I can get a few SS numbers pretty easily.
Analogous to the mandatory firearms training in some states, yup.
What is a 50 year old Army statute?
Mississippi?
What is this supposed to accomplish, ending legal marriage in Mississippi so that people who get married there have no legal protections, or proof for work, or the military?
Who handles the divorce, if they aren’t married in the first place?
They don’t. But it’s a lot less paperwork. One little marriage license handles all the powers of attorney and wills. You don’t need executors if your brand of reality is simple. Everything I own goes to the wife if I die, because we live in a community property state and technically I don’t own anything, WE own it all, and if I die it’s hers and all done. Now if I wanted stuff to be more widely distributed, like if we had kids, or I had an ex, or a favorite charity, then yeah I need a will and an executor and that junk. But I don’t, so I don’t. And most people actually live in a fairly simple version of reality.
Yes it can be “handled” with extra paperwork. But it’s handled for TENS OF MILLIONS of couples through a marriage license. And was for centuries before anybody invented palimony and started with the trouble of faking legal marriage.
I didn’t ask you if you knew where your/city hall’s paperwork was, I asked “”Would you destroy all records and evidence of your marriage right now?”” meaning all proof of your marriage in the sense of proving it legal, if you could?
Second, do you really think that states are going to cease recognizing marriage, or certifying that their citizens are legally married? And that people will tolerate that?
Third, what 50 year old marriage thing in the Army, are you talking about?
So we just roll over and accept federal gay marriage then? Or we just stall for a while, then accept it?
Unless you’ve got a path to fix things at the federal level then it makes sense to consider workarounds at the state level.
I don’t know what that workaround might look like but I’m glad there’s a state that’s not just rolling over and peeing itself.
Why not answer post 149?
This is a silly idea, it doesn’t have anything to do with dealing with the feds, or any kind of reality
How ‘bout you answer post 152.
I think your post 149 is silly.
You think this is silly? those are logical questions.
Mississippi?
What is this supposed to accomplish, ending legal marriage in Mississippi so that people who get married there have no legal protections, or proof for work, or the military?
Who handles the divorce, if they aren’t married in the first place?
In the beginning, there was no government licensing of marriage.The couple should draw up a contract for the distribution of property, much as you do for a will.
There is no current advantage of filing a joint income tax return if you file the standard form, so there is no advantage in having the government collect a fee for a marriage license. The less interaction you have with government, the better.
So we just roll over and accept federal gay marriage then? Or we just stall for a while, then accept it?
Unless you’ve got a path to fix things at the federal level then it makes sense to consider workarounds at the state level.
I don’t know what that workaround might look like but I’m glad there’s a state that’s not just rolling over and peeing itself.
You seem to have lost it.
This isn’t a workaround at the state level, the state is simply rolling over into a childish fantasy and peeing all over themselves in incompetence and ignorance.
Do you understand that these questions are completely relevant to the Mississippi proposal?
So there is no longer any legal marriage in Mississippi so that people who get married there have no legal protections, or proof for work, or the military?
Who handles the divorce, if they aren’t married in the first place?
Let us just get to the real gut of the matter; the Second Amendment is the only answer to this tyranny.
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