[Cincinatus' Wife]

....While the Right’s stance on gun control has since shifted to the other extreme, policies continue to arm white men at the expense of people of color, who are structurally barred from ownership. ......

2013- [Milwaukee County Sheriff David Clarke ] says weapon would have helped when [Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett] beaten "..........But Clarke fired back as well. He brought up the 2009 incident near the Wisconsin State Fair in West Allis when Barrett was beaten severely by a man wielding a tire iron.

"I'm sure that if you had a gun and a plan that day, the outcome would have been a little different," Clarke said to Barrett, who was in a different studio. "I'm asking that law-abiding citizens who make the decision that they see their personal security as their individual responsibility in a like situation can respond as they see fit."

Clarke gained national attention last week after a public service announcement ad began airing on local radio. In the ad, Clarke told listeners not to count on police responding rapidly to their 911 calls. Instead, he said, people need to consider taking a gun-safety course "so you can defend yourself until we get there."

Critics, including Roy Felber, the president of the Milwaukee Deputy Sheriffs' Association, said Clarke's comments seemed to be a call to vigilantism, a charge Clarke has fiercely rejected.

Barrett, who is a co-founder of Mayors Against Illegal Guns, has been a vocal proponent of President Barack Obama's call for new gun laws. The group, which includes the mayors of more than 800 cities across the country, backs universal background checks for all gun sales; the banning of so-called assault weapons; and placing a limit on high-capacity magazines............"

Scott Walker defies gravity, will sign two new gun rights bills

- - WI Gov Scott walker signs bills, Milwaukee County Sheriff David Clarke assists.

[knarf]

THAT'S THE FALLACY ...

THERE IS NO WIDESPREAD PUBLIC PRESSURE !!!!!!!

[2ndDivisionVet]

So this idiot couldn’t take 20 seconds to look up Woodrow Wilson and find out that he was born and raised in Virginia and elsewhere in the South, even though he went on to become governor of New Jersey?

Wilson’s parents moved south in 1851 and came to fully identify with it. His father defended slavery, owned slaves and set up a Sunday school for them. Both parents identified with the Confederacy; they cared for wounded soldiers at their church, and Wilson’s father briefly served as a chaplain to the Confederate Army.[11] Woodrow Wilson’s earliest memory, from the age of three, was of hearing that Abraham Lincoln had been elected and that a war was coming. Wilson would forever recall standing for a moment at General Robert E. Lee’s side and looking up into his face.[11]

Wilson’s father was one of the founders of the Southern Presbyterian Church in the United States (PCUS) in 1861 after it split from the northern Presbyterians. He served as the first permanent clerk of the southern church’s General Assembly, was Stated Clerk from 1865 to 1898, and was Moderator of the PCUS General Assembly in 1879. He became minister of the First Presbyterian Church in Augusta, Georgia, and the family lived there until young Wilson was 14.[12][12] Wilson in 1873 formally became a member of the Columbia First Presbyterian Church and remained a member throughout his life.[13]

Education

Wilson’s reading began at age ten, possibly delayed by dyslexia; he later blamed the lack of schools in the post bellum South. As a teen he taught himself the Graham shorthand system to compensate, and achieved academically with self-discipline, studying at home with his father, then in classes at a small Augusta school.[14] During Reconstruction, Wilson lived in Columbia, South Carolina from 1870 to 1874, while his father was professor at the Columbia Theological Seminary.[15] His father moved the family to Wilmington, North Carolina in 1874 where he was the minister at First Presbyterian Church until 1882. Wilson attended Davidson College in North Carolina for the 1873–74 school year, cut short by illness, then transferred to Princeton as a freshman when his father began teaching at the university. He graduated in 1879, a member of Phi Kappa Psi fraternity. In his second year, he studied political philosophy and history, was active in the Whig literary and debating society, and wrote for the Nassau Literary Review.[16] He organized the Liberal Debating Society[17] and later coached the Whig–Clio Debate Panel.[18] In the hotly contested election of 1876, Wilson declared his support for the Democratic Party and its nominee, Samuel J. Tilden.[19]

https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Woodrow_Wilson

[Gene Eric]

>> Article: While it’s absolutely time for the flag to go the way of the dodo, it’s hardly a cure for the real problems haunting [the Charleston Church massacre]

The Confederate flag is not the real problem... but it must be banned???

How many threats will we suffer for the Constitutional liberties we’ve been afforded?

You lurkers out there, understand the subjective constraints being inflicted on your voice, your future.

[Erik Latranyi]

They want to get the NRA as well.

[ZULU]

Not all Northerners opposed slavery. Some Unionists had slaves

Not all Southerners supported slavery.

Slavery may have caused the Civil War but slavery was not what motivated all, or perhaps even most soldiers on both sides.

The American Flag flew over a slave nation longer than any confederate flag.

The Confederate flag has long been a respected regional southern symbol.

The KKK used as many American Flags as Confederate Flags.

None of this has anything to do with Charleston.

The same people pushing this stole the word Gay to define sodomites, oppose names like Redskins and Warriors for sports teams, etc, etc.

Banning this flag is stupid, irrelevant, and countreproductive and this culture warriors who seek nothing less than the total remaking of our society need to be stopped NOW.

[American in Israel]

Only socialists think history has to be banned and rewritten

[Sir_Humphrey]

“Of course, the unfortunate reality is that the criminal population in America is disproportionately made up of racial minorities.”

How in the World is that a false statement?

[Democrat_media]

The U.S. news media used a single act by a single individual to take away our freedom of speech. If people don’t see now that the media is the enemy and the problem I don’t know when they will

[Democrat_media]

The U.S. news media used a single act by a single individual to take away our freedom of speech. If people don’t see now that the media is the enemy and the problem I don’t know when they will

The news media are ALL marxist/democrat political activists masquerading as objective news reporters.

[Sacajaweau]

Send them all back to Africa...where they can starve, be subject to all kinds of diseases etc etc.

Coming here......no matter the circumstances was still the best thing that happened to them in the end.

They should thank their ancestors for their endurance......and get on with it.

[HartleyMBaldwin]

Nico, you are an idiot. You are the one missing the point. The Confederate flag today is displayed as a symbol of rebellion against overbearing government, not of racism or slavery.

[BilLies]

330,000 WHITE Union military knowingly left their families and went to their DEATHS during the Civil War; they gave up their lives to free the BLACK AMERICAN SLAVES, they FOLLOWED the directives and emancipation orders of their government, a government THEY ELECTED. I have never heard a Progressive African-American, or a White Progressive, ever ACKNOWLEDGE, much less “thank” these men for their sacrifices, nor do they recognize the 260,000 White Union military who were wounded and/or grievously disabled; nor the widows; nor the children; nor the families of the military who also suffered TO FREE THE BLACK SLAVES.

[Erik Latranyi]

Today, minorities have a better life in the South than in the North.

The South has economic growth, less crime, better schools and smaller governments.

There is more happening here than just a symbol.

[Sherman Logan]

South Carolina contributed fewer fighters than any other to the Continental Army

I would bet a significant sum that this is factually inaccurate. Georgia, for instance, was at the time sparsely populated.

SC contributed fewer fighters than DE? Really?

Also, most of the battles in SC didn't involve the Continental Army. They were fought in what was really a nasty little civil war between Tory and Patriot South Carolinians. IOW, they were busy at home, so probably fewer per capita joined the Continentals.

[Bryanw92]

According to Science!, my DNA carries genes from ancestors who lived 40,000 years ago. So if this is in the “DNA” of America, then it is there forever so let’s stop pretending that kissing the butts of black and Prog activists will fix anything.

[Ultima]

It’s not good enough to just ban the Confederate flag. We’ll also have to ban guns, institute reparations and somehow make blacks equal to whites economically (probably through direct transfers of wealth and income). Oh yes, we’ll also have to punish whites more and punish blacks less to have equal crime stats. Did I miss anything?

[RFEngineer]

“Responding to widespread public pressure”

Responding to pressure from people she admires, which includes, apparently, the press, northeastern liberal media, and our communist president and his government.

If you think that burying a flag that is historically American (like it or not) is going to be enough, it won’t be. If you think wiping away everything named after “Lee” or “Jackson” or “Davis” and renaming them for communist heroes is going be enough, it won’t.

If you think that melting down every last statue representing the Confederate era, it won’t be.

This is about dividing today’s America. This is about excluding the South from political dialog - because we are more conservative - more American - than our government prefers.

Go ahead, do your worst. America will be saved, if it is to be saved, by a Southerner. No other region has the respect for what America actually IS - manifested by putting it in to action more than the South.

Nikki Haley has shown herself to be a short-sighted politician. She still won’t be welcome in the liberal circles she wishes to impress. She’s a woman, she’s got brown skin, and she’s “foreign” - so they will always hate her.

Contrast that with the citizens of South Carolina who elected her to lead them as Governor.

If she can’t see that, she’s self-immolating as a political figure - and betraying her fellow Southerners by somehow linking a deranged killer with a historically American flag.

[xzins]

There is no good reason to have any kind of discussion about race. It’s a waste of time discussing with insincere and/or irrational people.

[Opinionated Blowhard]

Instead, we must combat that heritage itself, which continues to be romanticized in our schools, our homes, and our entertainment.

OK. I'll go along with that. Let's ban memorials to every single politician and other person who supported slavery and segregation from public discourse. Let's start with wiping Woodrow Wilson from every public monument. Then Andrew Jackson, then pretty much every Southern Dixicrat Dem Senator and Congressman.

[Hatteras]

"In a widely circulated photo that’s indicative of Dylann Roof’s ideologies, he’s pictured in front of the Confederate Museum in Charleston, South Carolina, one emblazoned with the Confederate flag, and the image shocked Americans. But shouldn’t we be more concerned with the fact that such an establishment continues to operate? Or that it’s far from the only museum of its kind?"

It should be in a museum, they say. We're not talking about scrubbing it from history, just take it off the court house grounds... they say.