Don’t use my pain as a weapon: Infertility and same-sex ‘marriage’

LifeSiteNews ^ | 6-18-15 | Oliver Olivarez

[dp0622]

If and when we do adopt, we will offer a child both a mother and a father, thereby providing the closest restoration available to the natural family that has been lost. Thus, even in adoption, an infertile heterosexual marriage displays essential differences from homosexual ones, which in adoption always deprive a child once again of either a mother or a father. ///

Excellent article.

[strider44]

I feel very bad for infertile couples. We were lucky. I practically wink at my wife and she’s pregnant. but I understand the very real pain for couples that can’t concieve. My sister and her husband tried for years. They finally adopted a littel girl when my sister was 42.

It’s sad, but anyone who thinks 2 dads or 2 moms are better than a natural dad and mom is just dellusional. Unfortunately, we live in a world where if you say that out loud you’re immediately labled a bigot or worse by about 50% of the population. Oh well.

[Cyman]

Excellent !

[Not gonna take it anymore]

Infertile couples have had some success with NFP.

[sitetest]

Homosexual “marriage” mocks infertile couples.

[Qiviut]

Adding insult to injury:

Injured combat veterans face ban on IVF coverage
http://www.stripes.com/news/veterans/injured-combat-veterans-face-ban-on-ivf-coverage-1.348696

[Roland]

I believe that any argument which relies on the state interest is dependent on the premise that we exist to serve or benefit the state. This is a backwards proposition, government exists to benefit us. Law should be for our interest rather than the state. Simply put, an argument that relies on state interest is statism.

[Mollypitcher1]

who cares what other idiots call you? This touchy, feeley garbage has to be shown for what it is,,,,,just another form of control.

[IronJack]

Let's look at it this way: an infertile hetero couple may not be able to conceive, but that is an anomaly. Under normal conditions, they could.

However, under NO circumstances can a homo couple conceive. Ever. That inability is not an anomaly; it is a biological imperative.

So to compare the two is specious. But specious is all the Left has.

[jocon307]

This is kind of off topic, but I was watching TMZ last night (I know, I know) and they were talking about did what’s her name Jenner accept her father’s “transition” to a woman.

Now, maybe she does and maybe she doesn’t, but what struck me was that EVERYBODY seems to think if she doesn’t she’s a bad person. Maybe one gal there stuck up for that point of view.

I feel bad for her and for Cher. I don’t know what I would do in such a situation but saying: hey that’s great! wouldn’t be it.

[xzins]

But specious is all the Left has.

I sincerely believe in the very near future, we'll be getting told that 2 lesbians had a baby. A male who identifies as a female and a lesbian (which is what Bruce Jenner says with his penis intact), will unite with a lesbian female who has her equipment intact, and the 2 will produce a child.

The headline will read "Lesbians produce baby". It will not go into the details, because to do so would be an affront to the transgendered person.

Brainwashing 101 -- repeat the lie always, everywhere, and with emphasis.

[Harmless Teddy Bear]

And most have not.

I was able to conceive but never was able to carry to term. Some friends of mine in the group were never able to conceive at all.

Sometimes the body just does not work properly. Or if you prefer, sometimes it does not work normally.

[ully2]

Well one thing I do know it’s not white privledge.

[yefragetuwrabrumuy]

For those with infertility problems, there is an increasingly popular fertility diet that seems to help many people. It hasn’t had much publicity in the US, but it has elsewhere.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/real-life-stories/meet-mum-of-two-who-reversed-infertility-5884383

A mother of two who reversed her infertility through a 2,500 calorie per-day, 98% beef diet and no exercise.

While the keto effect can be attributed to her weight loss, the fat may also have contributed to the restoration of her fertility.

[generally]

Most people, if they were honest, would acknowledge that they would prefer to have been raised by a father and a mother, not 2 fathers or 2 mothers. I’m willing to bet that those who say otherwise are either lying to advance and agenda, or they had an abusive parent and are voicing an emotional reaction connecting the abuse to the gender of the parent rather than stating a true preference.

[ConservingFreedom]

There is a clear distinction (whether considered in ontological, teleological, or experiential terms) between homosexual couples and infertile heterosexual couples. For the latter, childlessness is not intrinsic to their relationship. Rather, whether due to illness, age, or deliberate action, it is a loss from the fullness of what their marriage should be. For those who are voluntarily sterile, it is an intentional avoidance of that fulfillment—an avoidance that has traditionally been condemned. For same-sex couples, the question does not even arise, because fertility is never a natural fulfillment of their relationship. No matter what medical advances may be made against age, illness, and injury, homosexual relations will remain intrinsically sterile.

I wish he'd led with this rather than the boo-hooing about his pain - emotionalism is the enemy's battleground where he always has the advantage.

[Monorprise]

“It’s sad, but anyone who thinks 2 dads or 2 moms are better than a natural dad and mom is just dellusional. Unfortunately, we live in a world where if you say that out loud you’re immediately labled a bigot or worse by about 50% of the population. Oh well.”

When people who simply state long known natural truths are labeled as bigots or worse by anyone then you may know the fool or coward who follows a crowd into nonsense.

As for infertility, that is such a thing that no man or woman of age may ever know that with such certainty at to justify state acknowledgement before there is proof.

When however there is proof of such a condition it has long been held that was ground for either party to request a divorce. This is of course their option not their requirement, because every form of such ‘proof’ is subject to interpretation and opinion..

There are after all many case the world over and thouout history where men or women who have been declared infertile later went on to have children naturally anyway. Our history is full of such ‘miracles’ but never a miracles where two men had conceived a child.

[Morpheus2009]

Jenner calls himself a woman while still keeping his male equipment what the ;&;$!

[xzins]

Not only does he have his penis, but he also identifies as a lesbian...a ‘girl’ who likes girls. It’s all one big sad joke, and for there to be serious-minded people going along with this is crazy.