Posted on 06/13/2015 7:17:33 AM PDT by lbryce
Black students in New York state are 44 percent more likely than white students to have a teacher rated “ineffective” in math, and 35 percent more likely to have one rated “ineffective” in English, startling new figures from the state Education Department show. The unprecedented analysis stemmed from the results of the statewide teacher-evaluation system, which for the first time required student performance on standardized exams to factor into teachers’ ratings.
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The average IQ of inner city blacks is 76. That’s the average. Half of them are below 76. More than 1/3 of them have death penalty immunity because of their retardation. The combination of low IQ and disruptive classroom behavior would make any teacher ineffective.
Rite on rite on............ Who do you think you are, the principle?
snort))))))))))
That was my first thought.
Weren’t Blacks whining that their children couldn’t learn from White teachers because they couldn’t relate to them? Now they have Black teachers. They should be doing great, because everyone knows that skin color trumps brains.
Sadly the degrees most teachers have are nothing most of us could earn a living in the private sector with.
What kind of mind can even figure stuff like this out? Let's just "acks" a black person...
Yep. Back when I was first hired (at an urban school district), hiring was done by merit. You got a score based on your college grades and student teacher evaluation. And the top scores got hired, period. By the way, that method was fully supported by the union leadership of the time.
Today there are still scores, but they are "adjusted" every which way to favor the candidates the district wants. And today's union leadership is just fine with that, because they are now liberal political toads, and not true labor leaders like in the past.
Still, I would encourage the young lady you talked about to continue looking for a good public school job! But nothing urban, please.
Private schools are nice (I taught in one for three years). But the benefits are light, and there is usually no pension. Plus you could be let go for no reason.
If you're teaching math and some big donor has a nephew who just got his math degree...poof...you're out of a job next year. That didn't happen to me, but I sure saw it happen to others.
Qualified math teachers, especially any who have proven effectiveness, can get a job anywhere in the country. The shortage is very large.
So, if you've got schools fighting for you... and there is little/no financial incentive to choose one over the other, then wouldn't you choose a safe, suburban or rural school rather than an inner city cesspool?
I loved my kids, I loved my school, and I only left to take a job I couldn't refuse. That said, it really pissed me off to be paid less than any of the half-dozen or so football/baseball/basketball coaches who were jokes in the classroom. None of those guys ever taught rigorous core academics.
As I mentioned earlier, I am a veteran urban public school teacher. I very rarely had a violent black student in my honors classes. Those kids were great! Even though most came from poor backgrounds, they worked hard and pushed themselves to succeed.
But the general classes were something else. Perhaps 20% of the black students were violent at least once a month. Most of the violence was directed towards other students, but teachers certainly weren't immune to it.
However, most the truly dangerous psycho students I encountered were white. Interesting, eh?
“what difference does it make” when your native tongue is Ebonics?
—But it’s also possible (and more likely in my experience) that predominately black classes cause a good teacher to become ineffective.-—
Might that be because blacks are more likely to be “ineffective” students? In fact, might it not be that the teachers are fully capable, but that even the best of them cannot teach yout’s who are unwilling to learn?
This happened several years ago. The young lady in question has taught in various places since then (none being an urban district though).
My grandmother taught at a private school for half a century...and my father is five years short of hitting that mark himself, also at a private school. I forget pensions even exist....because you are right and they had/have no pension. But lots of people (like myself) have no pension these days. Frankly, debacles like Detroit lead me to believe pensions may not pay out as promised....and I wouldn’t use that as a differentiating factor in deciding public vs private. I do remember my dad worked (and still works) on one year contracts - a little disconcerting, but really not unlike much of the private sector, where you could go at any time.
And all this time I thought they exhibited violent anti-social behavior because of bad cops, now I find out it’s due to bad teachers. Go figure.
Confucius say students who don’t want to learn, blame teacher. Well maybe he didn’t say that, maybe it was, ‘you can lead a horse to water but you can’t make him drink.’ Funny how better my teacher got when I read the text.
That is my belief.
Yes. “A person who wants to do something-finds a way. A person who does not-finds an excuse.”
“So, if a teacher is lecturing to a classroom full of rotten tree stumps, if the stumps don’t do well on their tests, is it because the teacher is deficient, or is it because the classroom was full of tree stumps...?”
The fault is public schools because private schools can make rotten tree stumps learn by magic.
That sounds spot on, in multiple ways.
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