Posted on 06/08/2015 7:30:38 AM PDT by rickyrikardo
The Supreme Court on Monday said Congress overstepped its bounds when it tried to force the president's hand in a hot-button dispute over the Middle East.
In a 6-3 ruling, the court struck down a 2002 law requiring the State Department to recognize Jerusalem as a part of Israel — over the objections of both the George W. Bush and Obama administrations, which had refused to implement the law. The Supreme Court sided with the executive branch on Monday.
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Wow! That does sound ridiculous.
Thanks for all that background, Freepers like you are what make this site so great!
Not only is this ruling Wrong, but Jerusalem is the Capital on Israel and will always be. It is time we get on God’s side.
This might be the ultimate "be careful what you wish for" scenario if you really want to make an argument based on free speech. This would not be a good outcome, for an obvious reason: Under that scenario, the U.S. State Department would have no authority to refuse a request when someone comes forward and demands that they have "Jerusalem, Palestine" listed on their passport.
The label isn’t wrong at all. It’s just that it’s not possible to list it “correctly” when the legal status of the geographic area in question is still in dispute.
It's remarkable how the Court becomes strict constructionist *only* when it screws the Jews.
This case has zero to do with denying passports to anyone, much less to Israelis. The issue is what language to put on passports of U.S. citizens who were born in Israel to American parents.
It sometimes helps to read the article before commenting. :-)
For the SCOTUS ping list.
Didn't all three Jewish members of the U.S. Supreme Court side with the Bush and Obama administrations on this one?
In 1947, the U.N. voted to take British-ruled Palestine and divide it into a Jewish state and an Arab state. The U.N. resolution said that the City of Jerusalem would not be part of either state, but would be internationally-administered. That never happened, but every U.S. President, from Truman to today, has refused to recognize Jerusalem as part of Israel, because U.S. foreign policy has been to officially recognize that U.N. resolution. That's why the U.S. Embassy to Israel is in Tel Aviv, not Jerusalem.
When American citizens living in Israel have a child, that child is a U.S. citizen and is entitled to a U.S. passport. U.S. policy is to list "Israel" as the place of birth on the child's passport, unless the child was born in Jerusalem, in which case the passport lists the place of birth as "Jerusalem."
During the Bush Administration, Congress passed a law requiring that U.S. passports issued to U.S. citizens born in Jerusalem list the place of birth as "Israel" if the parents so requested. The Bush Administration, and later the Obama Administration, refused to comply.
Today's SCOTUS decision upholds the Bush-Obama refusal, on the ground that the Constitution gives only the President, and not the Congress, the power to recognize foreign governments, and this power includes the power to decide what boundaries of foreign governments the U.S. will recognize.
Are there no Jews who oppose the existence of Israel (while doing what most BDSers do, and pretend it’s about a few policies)?
I do understand that. It still bugs me.
If you’d like to be on or off, please FR mail me.
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Probably the correct decision. If Congress want's to act as several Justices have noted in the past, they need to use the powers they have, particularly the power of the purse. As they did in the Embassy Act. Without a waiver. Beyond that this is an issue for the President to decide. If he thinks none of Jerusalem is part of Israel, so be it. If Obama and the State Dept think the entirety of Jerusalem is up for negotiation they are out of touch. Since Israel's borders are treaty lines, consistency would require that Israel not be mentioned on any birth certificates or passports, and that we have no Embassy in Israel until there are internationally recognized borders.
I believe they have to wait until the surgery is complete. For Caitlyn I believe she can get a special two year passport pending surgery. Presenting an interesting issue if the female is subject to search in another country and found to have male plumbing.
Guantanamo is part of Cuba, just as the Canal Zone was always part of Panama.
Well there you go. Someone born in Jerusalem, Israel can’t have their passport say so because the deniers won’t allow it. But someone with male DNA can mutilate his genitals and be allowed to say he is a woman on his passport.
Crazy crazy world.
totally ridiculous again
and what else might Jerusalem be? It is 100% inside the borders of Israel.
Israel annexed Jerusalem and the Golan Heights. The status quo is 5 to 7 decades old. Israel should simply declare it's borders, as it did with annexations. Friends will recognize them. Clearly Obama doesn't. GWB is a much bigger disappointment as he campaigned on moving the Embassy to Jerusalem, he lied about that, and signed the passport legislation. Either President could solve the passport problem by simply directing State, so the decision belongs to them. Besides, it's not like Israel's enemies recognize Tel Aviv as legitimate anyway.
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