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Interesting to note that the ammo can only be obtained from a “Service Disabled Veteran Owned Small Business,” Also I see that "the ammunition must be delivered to various agency locations over a period of several years."

Just another large purchase of ammo by the federal government. Nothing to see here. Move along. </Sarc>

1 posted on 05/29/2015 10:30:21 PM PDT by Perseverando
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To: Perseverando
I only have two questions:

First, what is a 9mm 'lugar?' I know of 9mm Luger, but I've never come across a lugar before. (Whenever I see such errors I know the person who wrote the article is not a gun person).

Second, what manufacturer is being chosen for the 9mm rounds? Federal (with their HST, which is arguably the best 9mm bullet out today), Winchester (with their Ranger T and Ranger Bonded ...the Feds had gone with the 147gr Ranger Bonded before, which is the round I use in Kenya due to US gov oversupply ...long story), Speer (with the Gold Dot that js really great, or, Lord forbid, the Gold Dot 2 that is a mess), Remington, Hornsey, what?

2 posted on 05/29/2015 10:42:49 PM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: Perseverando
185,000 12 Gauge #7 ½ shot rounds;

Are the guards going dove hunting? Because shootin' a man with 7 1/2 bird shot is just downright cruel. To him and the surgeon who has to pick 'em all out.

3 posted on 05/29/2015 10:47:11 PM PDT by TigersEye (If You Are Ignorant, Don't Vote!)
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To: Perseverando

Now, is this on top of the millions, maybe billions, of rounds that Janet Napolitano ordered a few years ago?

What the hell’s going on?


9 posted on 05/29/2015 11:29:42 PM PDT by Noob1999
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Tell them to borrow it from fedgov’s massive stockpile.


10 posted on 05/29/2015 11:32:08 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Perseverando
Bids from 'Service Disabled Veteran Owned Small Businesses' sought

I'm not quite sure what is the purpose of such a small business here. I do not believe that any small business is going to do the work that large ammo companies are doing and to manufacture the rounds from metal and powder and bullets. This can be done for 100 rounds at home, but not for millions of rounds - you need machines for that.

This small business can do only one thing. It can sign two pieces of paper: to buy rounds from the manufacturer, and to sell them to the government. The difference in price will be pocketed without doing any real work. Is this the intent?

13 posted on 05/29/2015 11:51:49 PM PDT by Greysard
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Given the roughly 40,000 employees of this group, what would you consider a reasonable annual purchase of ammo?

Seems to me citing the raw numbers doesn’t tell us much.


17 posted on 05/30/2015 12:57:01 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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Another branch of the federal government is poised to make a massive purchase of ammunition, including hollow points, an expanding bullet designed for “maximizing tissue damage and blood loss or shock.”

Don't most cops use hollow points?

18 posted on 05/30/2015 12:58:21 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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Service Disabled Veteran Owned Small Business? Are there a bunch of service connected disabled vets in the ammo business? If not it might be a good time for some vets to start some. All they have to do is buy from a major manufacture and mark them up 5%.


22 posted on 05/30/2015 4:23:00 AM PDT by VerySadAmerican (I'm very sad for my country. Personally, I've never been happier.)
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To: Perseverando

If I may...
I am the Armory Officer at a Correctional Facility in the State of Missouri, and as such I am responsible for ordering all of the ammunition used by the staff. I can attest to the large amount of ammunition required to annually certify just a handful of staff members.
My professional observation is, for the amount of staff at these various agencies that will be certifying, this is actually a reasonable purchase.


24 posted on 05/30/2015 4:59:42 AM PDT by Captain Marvell (Captain of the Thunder and the Lightning)
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Should we infer that the Bureau of Prisons is going to war with its inmates and needs all this ammunition to execute them? Is this Obama’s Final Solution to the Prison Problem? Once all the prisons kill off their residents, who gets to refill them? Has FedGov been taking any bids for crematoriums or is EPA withholding approval?
25 posted on 05/30/2015 5:23:14 AM PDT by MasterGunner01 ( Barbara Daly Danko)
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Interesting to note that the ammo can only be obtained from a “Service Disabled Veteran Owned Small Business,”

Not really, this is a small business set aside. All agencies that federally contract have target %'s that have to go to different mandated groups. It is likely that a vendor is already identified or a manufacturer that has a qualifying business partner already. The FedBiz posting reads like one of the gundecked 'opportunities' that appear on that site.

30 posted on 05/30/2015 9:02:05 AM PDT by xone
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