Posted on 05/27/2015 10:08:15 PM PDT by Altenkrug
A Chinese state owned newspaper warns of a conflict with the US, unless Washington stops demanding that China halts land reclamation and construction projects in the South China Sea.
The Global Times says War is inevitable unless the US backs down on Chinese land reclamation and the consequent rights to territorial boundaries of such man made islands. The islands that are man-made are in disputed waters of several regional nations. Some of these nations have close ties with the United States.
The US maintains that it is also maintaining the free passage of the waters of the South China Sea for all shipping. China maintains that she has historical claims on the Spratly islands.
The creation of the artificial islands from a patch of rock or land in the middle of the high seas, and the follow-up construction and the territorial claims over water, land and air, is a new phenomenon that is a game changer. China wants the United States to accept her as an equal, if not a stronger player on the world scene, and she is changing the rules of the game.
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what happens to the debts we owe them if something were to happen, heaven forbid?
You have to make a decision. Are the Spratleys the limit of China’s ambitions? If yes, you have to decide if you really want to go to war over something like this. Probably not.
If you decide that China sees her Pacific boundaries as including Guam, then you have a hard decision to make; oppose her now while you maybe have allies, or wait until you have none.
Its hard to find a spine in Washington where the Chinese are concerned when anyone who is anyone is probably already compromised by them. War with China will be fought with bags of money under the table, I believe.
Active Duty ping.
Null&Void, but the down side,no more fortune cookies
we can make our own lol. china isn’t usually given to talking like this though are they? That’s more of a North Korea or Iran thing isn’t it?
We screwed ourselves over when Bill Clinton was POTUS through non fair trade agreements and most favored nations status for the Communist Chinese.
As for war. Obama is a pussy. He has no sack to stand up to anyone except the eunuch McConnell and the drunken lout Boehner.
No wonder why so many of China’s neighbours are forming defense pacts to counter China.
China has big ambitions,all of our traditional enemy’s do.We are getting to see a world with a very weak America,not good.
thanks for clearing that up. I thought we owed them much much more.quantitative easing must be the most insane thing this country has ever done. 85 billion a month good God. I don’t understand economics that well. If we don’t pay the Federal Reserve back I don’t know who gets hurt
“We screwed ourselves over when Bill Clinton was POTUS through non fair trade agreements and most favored nations status for the Communist Chinese.”
Wait.... What??
This simply CANNOT be true!
The TV told me so.
Remember how libs on TV during the Clinton years of the 90’s told us that sending our dirty manufacturing to China would usher in the GREEN UTOPIA of Service and financial sector jobs??
And that anyone who dared to disagree was a crazy, anti-science bigot that hates clean air and clean water??
It seems to me we ought to start out by asking some fundamental questions: what are the essential national interests of the United States respecting China? What motivates China? How can China be influenced to respect our national interests?
As I noted in another thread, we have no coherent policy respecting China just as we have no coherent policy respecting militant Islam. This is a direct result of electing a president who is not motivated by America's national interests but who is instead motivated by his ideology.
The result of this incoherence is danger. We are in danger of blundering into a war with China and, contrary to conservative assumptions about the pacific nature of limp wristed leftists, we are in danger of being put into a war in furtherance of Marxist ideology. We should understand that committed leftists like Obama have historically demonstrated a cold indifference to human cost of waging war on behalf of their ideology. Obama was not opposed to the war in Iraq because he feared American casualties, he opposed it on left-wing ideological grounds just as the left opposed the war in Vietnam, the war in Korea and the Cold War. Obama's commitment to his ideology is far more extensive than the commitment of rank-and-file Democrats during Korea, Vietnam and the cold war. He is far worse. He might even entertain Muslims sympathies.
Your point about a war with China being waged with bags of money as well taken. The irony, of course, is that we will be bribed with our own money as we hollow out the American economy and ship it in containers to China. Now we are hollowing out the American economy and shipping it via the Internet to China as they appropriate much of the American economy beyond manufacturing.
We have not even begun to approach a debate about the nature of our fundamental national interests concerning China. That they must start with an analysis of our economic relationship with China and only then can we proceed to an analysis of diplomatic and military postures.
She’s bluffing.
Territory dispute is not a US problem so going to war over it is silly
I remember when the Repulicans pushed for it. They are all POS.
Neither was China or Burma in WWII. Japan did the same thing, but without 1B kamikazes to burn.
China predicts this because Obama is weak and a coward.
They want to send Obama running back to mommy.
Vietnam and the Philipines will be our allies.
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