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It's time we have a holiday to honor those who try to stop wars too (extreme barf alert)
Vox ^ | May 25, 2015 | Dylan Matthews

Posted on 05/26/2015 8:07:24 AM PDT by Zakeet

Memorial Day and Veteran's Day often get equated, but there is an essential distinction between the two. Veteran's Day honors all who have served the American military in wars. Memorial Day honors those who've perished. It's an annual reminder that wars have grave human costs, which must be both recognized and minimized.

Those costs are not inevitable. We ought to also set aside time to remember those throughout American history who have tried hardest to reduce them, to prevent unnecessary loss of life both American and foreign: war resisters.

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War resistors can be heroes

American history is littered with examples of pointless wars fought for bad reasons, and with people who risked their careers and their freedom to oppose them. The Mexican-American War, for one, was a blatant land grab. ... World War I was if anything more pointless than the Mexican-American War. The best that could be said of American involvement in the conflict is that it helped bring seemingly ceaseless bloodshed between European nations to a quicker close. But the war itself was fought for no great principle. It was not a fight against tyranny; Germany was a constitutional monarchy, much like Great Britain, and the Allies counted Czarist Russia among their ranks. It was not redressing any unprovoked invasion. It was a tragic unfurling of alliances that claimed 10 million lives and laid the groundwork for both Stalinism and Nazism.

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Some wars aren't worth fighting. Some causes aren't worth sacrificing American lives for. Those who've fought to remind the government of those basic facts deserve our respect and our thanks.

(Excerpt) Read more at vox.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: deserters; draftdodgers; military; patriotism
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Libtards believe that Freepers should stop criticizing draft dodgers and military deserters ... cause they are really brave heroes ... who should be honored for their treason by being given a special day of remembrance!

1 posted on 05/26/2015 8:07:24 AM PDT by Zakeet
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To: Zakeet

Who stopped a war?


2 posted on 05/26/2015 8:09:11 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: Zakeet

And while we’re at it, let’s take Dennis Kucinich’s idea and establish a Department of Peace.............


3 posted on 05/26/2015 8:09:23 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Zakeet

Hey DumbF Dylan . . .we already have those days. The first two you mentioned.


4 posted on 05/26/2015 8:11:23 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (The First Amendment = Freedom of Religion = Religious Liberty = Applies to Everyone)
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To: Zakeet

National Neville Chamberlain Day?


5 posted on 05/26/2015 8:13:36 AM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: Zakeet

Neville Chamberlain day?


6 posted on 05/26/2015 8:14:21 AM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: Huskrrrr

Lol same thought


7 posted on 05/26/2015 8:14:52 AM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: Zakeet

I note the author failed to mention the War of 1812, which was started mainly to prop-up the political fortunes of the Democratic Party.


8 posted on 05/26/2015 8:15:16 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: AppyPappy

“Who stopped a war?”

Neville Chamberlain did it........wait, never mind.


9 posted on 05/26/2015 8:15:25 AM PDT by V_TWIN
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To: AndyTheBear


10 posted on 05/26/2015 8:16:23 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Zakeet
"...if the United States were to set a date for withdrawal the prisoners of war would be returned."-J.F. Kerry

"Under questioning from the Committee, Kerry referred to the democratically elected government of South Vietnam -- our allies -- as a "dictatorial regime, the Thieu-Ky-Khiem regime," while respectfully calling the North Vietnamese communist regime we were fighting by its oxymoronic official name, the Democratic Republic of Vietnam, and the murderous Viet Cong's political arm by their preferred "Provisional Revolutionary Government.":
http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/chavez042804.asp
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June, 1970 -- Kerry joins Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW), a national veterans group that is part of the Peoples Coalition for Peace and Justice. The PCPJ is a broad coalition of local and national organizations, including the Communist Party, USA, "committed to conducting demonstrations aimed at ending the war in Indochina, and poverty, racism and injustice at home." The VVAW, CCI and PCPJ all have headquarters at 156 Fifth Avenue in New York City. VVAW Executive Secretary Al Hubbard, a former Black Panther, is also on the coordinating committee of the PCPJ. Hubbard soon appoints Kerry to the VVAW's Executive Committee, bypassing the normal election process.
http://www.wintersoldier.com/index.php?topic=Timeline
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Fact: The Black Panthers were revolutionary communists...

From the Maoist Internationist Movement:
[1960s/original] Black Panther Party [BPP] Archives
From the article: REVOLUTIONARY HEROS

"On May 1st, May Day [1969], the day of the gigantic Free Huey rally, two of Alioto's top executioners vamped on the brothers from the Brown Community who were attending to their own affairs. These brothers, who are endowed with the revolutionary spirit of the Black Panther Party defended themselves from the racist pig gestapo [i.e., the police].

Pig Joseph Brodnik received his just reward with a big hole in the chest. Pig Paul McGoran got his in the mouth which was not quite enough to off him.

The revolutionary brothers escaped the huge swarm of pigs with dogs, mace, tanks and helicopters, proving once again that "the spirit of the people is greater than the man's technology."

To these brothers the revolutionary people of racist America want to say, by your revolutionary deed you are heroes, and that you are always welcome to our camp."

Source: Maoist Internationist Movement
Article: REVOLUTIONARY HEROS (May 11, 1969):
http://web.archive.org/web/20060717050055/http://www.etext.org/Politics/MIM/bpp/index.html
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November 22, 1970 -- During a fund-raising tour for GI deserters, Vietnam Veterans Against the War and the Black Panthers, Jane Fonda is quoted in the Detroit Free Press as telling a University of Michigan audience:

"I would think that if you understood what communism was, you would hope, you would pray on your knees that we would someday become communist," and "The peace proposal of the Viet Cong is the only honorable, just, possible way to achieve peace in Vietnam."
http://www.wintersoldier.com/index.php?topic=Timeline
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John Kerry and the VVAW--Hanoi's American Puppets?
"Two recently discovered documents captured from the Vietnamese communists during the Vietnam War strongly support the contention that a close link existed between the Hanoi regime and the Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW) while John Kerry served as the group's leading national spokesman."
http://www.wintersoldier.com/staticpages/index.php?page=puppets
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Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW) Complete FBI files:
http://www.wintersoldier.com/index.php?topic=VVAWFBI

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Photograph of Madame Binh and Jane Fonda
Displayed in the Women’s Museum, Saigon, May 28, 2004
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JOHN KERRY BEING HONORED, BY COMMUNISTS, FOR HIS CONTRIBUTION TO THEIR VICTORY OVER UNITED STATES

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Source for both:
http://www.tinyvital.com/Misc/KerryHonoredByCommunists2.htm

11 posted on 05/26/2015 8:16:25 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Zakeet

Weakness and appeasement does not end wars, it starts them.


12 posted on 05/26/2015 8:16:29 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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Yeah. They sacrifice so much. Like keeping their calendars free of work and anything constructive so they can protest at a moments notice. Living in their Mom’s basement and sometimes getting up as late as 2pm to join an anti war demonstration. ~sarc


13 posted on 05/26/2015 8:16:31 AM PDT by albie
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To: Zakeet
John Kerry, from his book, The New Soldier
"We will not quickly join those who march on Veterans' Day waving small [American] flags, calling to memory those thousands who died for the 'greater glory of the United States.'..."

"The John Kerry quote comes in the epilogue to "The New Soldier," the book put out by Vietnam Veterans Against the War [VVAW]. The book's cover features a group of not-particularly sober-looking anti-war protesters (vets, presumably) flying the American flag upside down [while mocking the historic flag raising event at Iwo Jima]":
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1203164/posts

Note John Kerry's name at top right of The New Soldier

"We will not quickly join those who march on Veterans' Day waving small (American) flags, calling to memory those thousands who died for the 'greater glory of the United States.' "

So John Kerry would have a difficult time marching with those waving small American flags yet had NO problems marching with those waving HUGE VIETCONG FLAGS?

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"Pictured above: VVAW-supported demonstration during the Washington Spring Offensive, April - May 1971. Notice the North Vietnamese and Viet Cong flags."

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14 posted on 05/26/2015 8:17:11 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: AppyPappy

You can never be sure anyone ever actually prevented a war. However, an argument could be made that Reagan might have prevented further cold war conflicts by his buildup of American military power and his clear indication of his willingness to utilize it if necessary. That’s how wars are prevented - through strength and the willingness to use it when necessary.


15 posted on 05/26/2015 8:17:33 AM PDT by stremba
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To: Zakeet

Who on the Left demanded that the North Vietnamese lay down their weapons and be held accountable for their war crimes?

Who on the Left is demanding that Islamonazis be tried for their war crimes and genocide?

Who on the Left is demanding that Palestinians stop launching missile attacks in Israel?

FUpeaceniks

Most of the “anti-war” movements are a lie. Communists in support of murderous regimes and angry about Western attempts to thwart them.


16 posted on 05/26/2015 8:18:54 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Funny how Hollywood's 'No Nukes' crowd has been silent during Obama's Iranian nuclear negotiations.)
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To: stremba

Now you are moving the narrative towards an inconvenient truth.

Hit yourself on the nose with a newspaper.


17 posted on 05/26/2015 8:19:01 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: Zakeet; Jet Jaguar; 2ndDivisionVet; onyx; Homer_J_Simpson; Jane Long; MeganC; Norm Lenhart; ...
It's time we have a holiday to honor those who try to stop wars too

Ummm... We Do, They are Called, Memorial Day, Armed Forces Day and Veterans Day.

Hediki Tojo has been quite for 70 Years Active Duty Ping!

18 posted on 05/26/2015 8:20:20 AM PDT by KC_Lion (This Millennial is for Cruz!)
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To: Zakeet
Rochester NY allowed anti-war scumbags to march in its Memorial Day parade, albeit, at the very end.
In an attempt to one up the parade, the local pinko-commie TV station 13WHAM, LED OFF their newscast with a story about the scumbags with interviews.
MFers.
19 posted on 05/26/2015 8:25:46 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Zakeet

This author wants us to celebrate Neville Chamberlain, John Effin Kerry, and Hussein Obama.


20 posted on 05/26/2015 8:26:05 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (WSC: The truth is incontrovertible; malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end...)
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