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Boy Scouts of America bans water gun fights; ‘pointing a firearm’ is not kind [& water balloons]
Washington Times ^ | May 19, 2015 | Douglas Ernst

Posted on 05/19/2015 12:21:06 PM PDT by grundle

The Boy Scouts of America has put out approved activities for its members, and water gun fights are strictly prohibited.

A blog for the organization’s leaders said May 6 that pointing simulated firearms at people is not allowed.

“Why the rule? A Scouter once told me this explanation I liked quite a bit: A Scout is kind. What part of pointing a firearm [simulated or otherwise] at someone is kind?” said Bryan Wendell on the scouting website.

The rule is clarified in the Boy Scouts of America National Shooting Manual, which says “For water balloons, use small, biodegradable balloons, and fill them no larger than a ping pong ball. […] Water guns and rubber band guns must only be used to shoot at targets, and eye protection must be worn.”

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: banglist; boyscouts; bsa; gay; gayscouts; gayscoutsofamerica; homosexualagenda; scouting; scouts; zerotolerance
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To: Bartholomew Roberts

“Remember leave no trace?

Hope you are cleaning up after!”

Folks, this is EXACTLY what is wrong with scouting. Did the kids have fun? Did we bring on new members? Was there some fascist idiot hovering over the proceedings worried more about cleaning up than about the experience?

Fortunately, we were able to recover all the broken glass on the big visqueen tarps we used, whereupon we baked them into cookies and fed them forcibly to the Tigers.

Yeah, we cleaned it up.

So many men walking around - so few sets of balls.


141 posted on 05/20/2015 8:14:38 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: Jotmo
Perhaps you’d take a moment to contemplate the difference between insulting an institution, what other posters you mentioned are doing, and insults directed at an individual, what you’re doing.

That is a distinction without a difference.

And no, calling Scout leaders as a whole child molesters and all remaining Scouts gays is not civil discourse.

If you left that easily, I doubt you were adding too much value while you were participating. It's a lot easier to complain and moan, and be a quitter than it is to stand up and do something to fix a problem.

142 posted on 05/20/2015 8:15:04 AM PDT by Bartholomew Roberts
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To: Bartholomew Roberts; Jotmo
" I doubt you were adding too much value while you were participating."

And this is what we're up against...we try to stem the tide against the PC changes, yet there are those who have accepted what the BSA has become.

Then rush in to defend the BSA by attacking other Scouters who have the temerity to tell the truth.

Pathetic.

143 posted on 05/20/2015 8:24:06 AM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: fwdude

You are right. Sigh. The Gaystapo has been on the attack for so long, I had forgotten the details of the ruling that the Scouts may choose their own rules for leadership positions. Destroying the organization from within. Do you know what the enrollment figures are of the BSA since they decided to go all “gay”?


144 posted on 05/20/2015 8:59:53 AM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: LibertarianLiz

I am wondering, since I was at the last den meeting for the year with our young CubScout last night.

When I hear they keep making changes in how Cubs will operate, including “don’t have to do anything if older than Tiger level to join the associated level”, I wonder if they are trying to make it more attractive to people to make up for lost members.

I still bet there is little lost, but maybe there is enough to drive the younger Cubs to roll over on some requirements.


145 posted on 05/20/2015 9:46:18 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: grundle

We used to have “wars” with roman candles and pop bottle rockets....... I guess they’d frown on that these days.


146 posted on 05/20/2015 9:47:37 AM PDT by kjam22 (my music video "If My People" at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74b20RjILy4)
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To: ThomasMore
Who the heck is making up all these ridiculous rules? Who hijacked this once great organization?

Women

147 posted on 05/20/2015 10:12:11 AM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: grundle

Boy Scouts use to mean something.


148 posted on 05/20/2015 10:21:44 AM PDT by Leep ("Soon you won't be able to live in America as a Muslim. The noose is tightening," Elton Simpson)
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To: notaliberal
How did they dare get a PR shot of the American soldier without any women present?

Rule number 1 of military diversity training is that a female must be front and center on every public photo.

149 posted on 05/20/2015 10:37:48 AM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: Bartholomew Roberts
I didn't make an counter argument from authority. I initially stated that your argument from authority was fallacious. You responded with an ad-hominem attack, which I pointed out as being a fallacy, to which you responded with another ad-hominem attack.

Stop digging.

150 posted on 05/20/2015 11:11:46 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: LibertarianLiz

Membership has been declining for several years. I think part of that is the less attractive aspect of Boy Scouting as being “low tech,” outdoors-oriented in an age of air-conditioned indoor technology. Also, it has become politically incorrect to refer to Indian - oops, I mean Native American - culture in any regard, and that is a consistent theme throughout Scouting. (Indian Lore merit badge, Order of the Arrow, etc.)

This latest change has not reversed this decline. In fact, it has accelerated it.


151 posted on 05/20/2015 11:24:14 AM PDT by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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To: fwdude

You make good points.

But I would ask, at what rate is it declining?

If it is precipitous, it’s not just the unPC parts of it. Maybe it would include the homo acquiesence. If it is slow, likely it is mostly just not hip enough.


152 posted on 05/20/2015 11:30:57 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: Last Dakotan

Maybe BS is just men, but my understandig is that in the old days, mostly women really ran Cub Scouts. I was a bit surprised by our pack having so many women, but then my husband says it was always Den MOTHERS in his day, not just den leader. Same with my dad and brother. Our own leader this year was a man, although he is being put somewhere else while his “assistant”, a woman who really did most of the work, is taking over with her husband. Our pack leader is a man, but I see this year he took over from a woman.


153 posted on 05/20/2015 11:34:46 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Typically...I had male and female Den Leaders until Webelos...the transition program if you will to Boy Scouts. I do see many more female Den Mothers than male Den Dads...but not sure of the reasons. I have had Webelos transition into the Troop without ever having earned their Whittlin’ Chip...when asked, the female Den Leaders stated that “knives are dangerous”.

There are female Scout leaders, but not many. In my experience, few are willing or able to engage in the outdoors, so it tends to water down the outdoor program to car camping and entertainment related activities.

Even many of the metro males (men are a different category) tend to shy away from outdoor activities.

This past weekend our Troop went backpacking in the Sierras...a late Spring storm threatened with snow and rain...the metros were very anxious about it, but we pressed anyway because I saw an opening in the weather.

In the end, a few of the metros that went viewed the experience favorably. There may be hope for them yet. At least they went and took their sons...

It is up to the men in our society to maintain the standards and to perservere against the feminization of our boys.


154 posted on 05/20/2015 12:02:05 PM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: SZonian

My husband was basically CS in the ‘70s, ending BS early ‘80s. You?


155 posted on 05/20/2015 1:55:02 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel; SZonian

I started as a Tiger in 1988 and as I progressed from there to Cub/Boy Scouts I have only good memories.


156 posted on 05/20/2015 2:06:13 PM PDT by darkangel82
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To: darkangel82

What I mean is, in the ‘70s apparently women really ran things for Cubs (AND there was no such thing as “Tiger”, or anything before 3rd-grade level; they keep moving it maybe to get more $$ and the state of society constantly trying to encompass all children, I swear). So, the remarks about women may be rather specious.


157 posted on 05/20/2015 4:51:08 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: Bartholomew Roberts

Wow, more attempts at personal insults and unsupported attacks on my character.

Like I said, I’m really glad I left the BSA if you’re an example of what kind of “men” are left.


158 posted on 05/20/2015 9:08:32 PM PDT by Jotmo (Whoever said, "The pen is mightier than the sword." has clearly never been stabbed to death.)
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To: Bartholomew Roberts
Come out of the closet, you think too much about gay sex.

Why the personal attack?

It doesn’t happen in Scouts as much as you dream it does.

If it happens once, it is too many times. If the opportunity for it even exists, it is too many times. Why are you (apparently) so willing to expose other people's sons to perverts?

What part of "morally straight" do you not understand?

The BSA allows open practicing fags into contact with innocent kids. They have betrayed their oath and killed the organization. All we have left now is the gay scouts operating in the zombified body of a once great group.

159 posted on 05/21/2015 5:50:51 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: John O

Well, I would rather open practicing fags than hidden practicing fags.

There are mixed up kids everywhere. If a gay Scout knows he’s going to get kicked out if he tells, he won’t tell.

Then there is no extra care to watch him.

Let them come out.

And most Troops are organized by Patrols of the same age. Lessening the contact between younger and older. And they are required to take specific training to address the issue.

Lastly, there is always two deep leadership. No single adult is allowed with the kids. And the Scouts have never rescinded the ban on gay Scout leaders, no matter what you have read above.

My view is that you appear to think you can chase every gay kid and adult out of the Scouts or it is a terrible organization.

There are probably gays in your church, and as Sunday School teachers, and teaching your children five days a week. The usher at the theater. The dance instructor. The afterschool music teacher. Your cousin. The neighbor with the new puppy.

Well, you can’t get them out of everything, everywhere, unless you start some gay leper colony for them somewhere.

It is a legitimate problem and the Scouts have addressed it. More so than any of the listed entities above.

Your over the top characterizations of the body of Scouts and the organization as a whole lead me to the obvious conclusion that you are weird-crazy about gays in general.


160 posted on 05/21/2015 7:26:40 AM PDT by Bartholomew Roberts
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