Posted on 05/17/2015 7:39:22 PM PDT by jonatron
Federal officials this weekend revealed the train that crashed Tuesday, killing 8, was one of two struck by objects that day.
Investigators are now looking into the possibility the doomed train's windshield was struck in the moments before the crash.
Amtrak, meanwhile, has been ordered to expand speed-restriction system in area of derailment in Philadelphia.
NTSB investigators, however, said Sunday that no communication from the train indicated it had been hit by an object.
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EPTA, Southeast Pennsylvania Transportation Authority, said there's no indication the object that hit the commuter rail train is related to the Amtrak derailment.
Philadelphia Mayor Michael Nutter on Friday reports of an unknown projectile 'had nothing to do' with the deadly crash.
(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...
Amtrak’s got at least 8 wrongful death suits that are going to brought, plus more for those injured, somebody, a lot of somebodys actually, are going to be going over this man’s life with a fine toothed comb along with all the other aspects of the derailment. Will we learn about it? That I don’t know. I imagine he may face criminal charges over this.
Thomas was my son’s favorite show! It was James and Bulstrode who were the nasty repressed twerps , in my poor recollection.
Every school bus driver in America gets videoed all day every day, why they don’t video train drivers and airplane drivers is beyond me.
Here is an interesting article that addresses accident rates of homos.
Good photo!
The wipers are not even bent.
The left side of the engine (looking at the picture) is bent. The dashboard and some other stuff inside has been thrown forward.
That’s it! Brandon Buttstrode, the little engineer that couldn’t
The public employee unions. They should be outlawed.
BS !
PEOPLE ?
Look at the pictures that are avalible of the train crash.
The next day pictures of the engine shows scratch marks, scrape make all down the side of that engine.
The frontal picture of that engine shows some heavy damage to the window pillor, and windshield.
Folks ? Look at the pictures of the passenger cars right behind that engine and you will see a badly mangled deformed bent up catenary line pole.
That damage to the front of that engine of train 188 is consistent of hitting that catenary line pole with the heavy damage to the window pillor and scrapes all down the side of the engine, with the copper electrical cables/lines hitting the windshield like a whip going 106 miles an hour.
They are lying to us to cover up something.
No projectile hit that train, the N.T.S.B.’s report as of today shows there was NO communications from that engineer that he reported on anything hitting that train.
Queers lied, people died.
The N.T.S.B’s report as of today shows that the Enginequeer’s story that his lawyer concocted is not holding water.
The N.T.S.B reported as of today that there was NO report of any projectile that hit that train in the tapes of the communications from the enginequeer to the dispatcher.
If an object shattered the window of the train, it could have easily seriously distracted the engineer.
I will be curious to see what comes out in the investigation.
That damaged to the windshield is more consistent to damage it would receive from the cable electrical catenary copper lines like a whip hitting that windshield after the engine has hit one or two cantenary poles.
There is a picture in day light of the whole right side of the train receiving damage and scrapping of that one side.
There is heavy damage to the frontal window pillor.
Not sure how reliable the information is about the data recorder showed that the brakes were applied right before he went into the curve going 106 miles an hour.
If he was committing suicide he must have lost his nerve at the last moment.
All of this evidence proves it.
Need to get a criminal interigator to interview him A.S.A.P.
All of these signs of damage is consistent of the engine hitting one or two catneray poles.
There is pictures of the passenger cars right behind the engine with a mangled up, twisted, bent canteray pole.
That is what finally hit that greatly mangled up passenger car.
Those poles are made of heavy iron steel I beams embedded into concrete.
It would take a lot of force to move or even bend those catenray poles.
The damage on the windshield is consistent of the cabling of the elctrical copper catenray lines hitting it like a whip.
Someone is lying to us.
“A rock crushed my windshield, directly in front of my face, while I was driving on a major freeway. It was a terrifying experience and I am grateful that I did not lose control of the car. There was glass everywhere and I was covered in shards. I could not see out of driver’s side of the window but did manage to see well enough on the passenger’s side to pull the car to a safe area....”
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Your experience was vastly more terrifying than anything the engineer encountered prior to the derailing. Why the hell didn’t YOU immediately double your speed?
I wasn’t conducting a train.
I am willing to wait for the investigation results.
maybe he was struck in the head. and he either froze or pushed the accelerator while semi conscious. I had a window shot? out from ny car once and almost ran off a high embankment. Electric train engines are designed to accelerate quickly there are time tables.
From a trian q and a site
http://cs.trains.com/mrr/f/88/t/169142.aspx
someone posted this:
Just to give you an idea of what can be done with modern electric locos - the class 189 electric of German Railway, rated at 10,000 hp, accelerates a 2.000 mt freight train from 0 to 65 mph in less than 20 seconds. 50 years ago, that was the acceleration of a Porsche!
I will say that I was completely rattled. I am grateful that I was calm enough to safely get the car off the road. Even thinking about it now gets the heart pumping.
I was just kidding about doubling your speed. I’m glad everything worked out well for you; it could have been far worse.
It would be indeed unusual if someone was ambushing trains on that night. Not impossible, of course - flashmobs can be arranged via smartphones. But if there was a "competition" running that night among urban teens to hit trains, people will talk - too many, hundreds, would know.
However, as this thread demonstrates, it is hard to imagine how a thrown object could cause the train to accelerate and inevitably derail. As we can see in the photo, that is one tough locomotive; it stayed in one piece after leaving tracks; the glass cracked but retained integrity. In this photo you can even see the branch that was broken off. The locomotive is most likely *designed* to absorb collisions with thrown objects of some reasonable size. If the engineer wants to use the "involuntary incapacitation" or "external influence" type defense, he will have to come up with a very good story. As the engineer lawyered up and isn't talking, chances are that he had no such external, exonerating event to report.
For comparison, imagine that someone shot at the train and wounded the operator. The operator falls onto the controls, blacks out, then recovers, but it's too late. Would he remain quiet about his injury after the crash? That'd be insane - the shooter has to be found, and the evidence. You can't sit on such facts for a week.
I’ve had my driver window shot out or completely shatter while driving and was in shock. I just barely controlled the car from going off the road hitting a curve. I would usually slow down before the curve.
i had a similar experience on my driver sdie window and nothing actually hit me. same effect. If he was hit in the head. he could have been semi-conscious.
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