Posted on 05/09/2015 11:42:37 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
If the government does not like the way that you are raising your kids, they will come in and grab them at any time without giving any warning whatsoever. Of course this is completely and totally unlawful, but it has been happening all over America. The most recent example of this that has made national headlines is particularly egregious. Joe and Nicole Naugler of Breckinridge County, Kentucky just had their 10 children brutally ripped away from them just because the government does not approve of how they are living their lives and how they are educating their young ones. Lets be very clear about this Joe and Nicole had done nothing to violate the law whatsoever. All of their kids were happy, healthy and very intelligent. But because the control freaks running things in Kentucky got wind of their off the grid lifestyle, they have now had all of their children unlawfully abducted from them.
A lot of my readers also lead off the grid lifestyles similar to what the Nauglers had been enjoying. The Nauglers own 26 acres in a remote area of Breckinridge County, and their family has been described as extremely happy. But despite never giving them a single warning or a single indication that anything was ever wrong, Kentucky police raided their home on May 6th. The following is how the raid was described on a website dedicated to this case
On May 6th, 2015, Breckinridge Co. Sheriffs officers came to their home, acting on an anonymous tip, and entered their property and home without a warrant and without probable cause. Nicole was at home with the two oldest children, while Joe was away with the others. When the officers left the home, they attempted to block the access road to the family property. Nicole and the two boys got in their car to leave the family property. The got only a short way down the road before the officers pulled Nicole over.
During this stop, sheriffs deputies took their two oldest boys from Nicoles custody, providing her no justification or documentation to support their action. Nicole was able to contact Joe briefly by telephone, but only for a short period of time, because she needed to use her phone to record the events.
At that point, Nicole had been taken into custody for disorderly conduct (for not passively allowing the Sheriff to take her boys) and resisting arrest. Even though she is 5 months pregnant, she was slammed belly first into the cop car and bruised and scraped on both arms.
And people wonder why there is such an uproar about police brutality in this country
How in the world can a police officer ever justify treating a pregnant woman like that? The police officer that treated Nicole like that should immediately resign. Talk about an utter disgrace. You do not ever treat a pregnant woman like that.
But this is America, where we are turning a little bit more into Nazi Germany every single day.
You can listen to audio of Nicoles shocking arrest right here.
When Joe arrived on the scene, the police continued to act like Gestapo thugs
Joe was able to arrange transportation to meet his wife where the stop had taken place. Joe attempted to get out of the car to speak with the officers and his wife, and to recover the vehicle Nicole had been driving. The Sheriff, with his hand on his sidearm, ordered Joe back into the car. Joe complied with that request. The sheriff informed Joe that he had every intention of making this as difficult as possible for them and that their car would be impounded, despite the fact that Joe was there onsite to recover it.
A friend, who had driven Joe to the location, got out of the car to speak with the Sheriff. She was able to convince the Sheriff to let Joe recover the vehicle. Joe also recovered Nicoles cell phone, which had been recording audio the entire time.
The Sheriff ordered Joe to turn the remaining eight children over to Breckinridge County Sheriffs deputies by 10:00 a.m., and threatened him with felony charges if he does not comply.
Joe did comply with the Sheriffs order, and now their kids have been scattered by CPS among families in four separate counties
As of now, officials have placed the children with four families in four different counties, and as of Friday morning, the parents had not spoken with them. The four families are families that CPS chose families the Nauglers dont know.
Shame on you Kentucky. You are supposed to be better than this.
One of the most disturbing elements of this entire incident is that Child Protective Services never visited the Nauglers a single time and never gave them any indication that anything was wrong. The following comes from Off The Grid News
Child Protective Services never visited the home, said Ellsworth, who believes the arrests took place because of the parents choice of unschooling for their children, and because of their simple way of life that some would call backwards. The familys Facebook page calls it a back to basics life. They have a garden and raise animals. Deputies apparently were concerned about whether the childrens needs were being met, but friends say they personally have no concerns and that the children are blessed to have Joe and Nicole as their parents.
How would you like it if government thugs raided your home and took your children away because they considered your lifestyle to be backwards?
What in the world is happening to this country?
Like I said earlier, what happened to the Nauglers is not an isolated incident. These kinds of things are happening all over the nation. For example, just consider the abuse that one homeschooling family received in New Jersey
Meanwhile, in New Jersey, a WND report highlights how parents were interrogated by a CPS caseworker who questioned Christopher Zimmer and his wife Nicole, on everything from their sons homeschool education to questions about vaccines and guns in the house.
Michelle Marchese aggressively demanded to enter the property after asserting Christopher Zimmer Jr. was not getting a proper education. Police subsequently arrived and allowed Marchese to enter the home before conducting a warrantless search.
The Zimmers are now suing the CPS for $60 million in a case before the U.S. District Court in Trenton.
I very much hope that the Zimmers win that case and collect a huge monetary award.
All over the nation, CPS officials are running around acting like little dictators and trampling the law. They need the courts to send them a clear message that this is a nation where the rule of law still applies.
If we do not stand with families like the Nauglers, control freak bureaucrats will continue to harass families that have chosen to live a basic lifestyle all over the nation. So lets stand with them and make this case viral all over the Internet.
And Kentucky, get your act together and send those kids back home. You are supposed to be so much better than this.
Not really; the KY Constitution is explicit about the seizing of persons, it requires a warrant.
The police didn't have a warrant (or at least no mention of an actual warrant is made here or [from what I skimmed] in the reference you provided) — that's the whole story. (Claiming otherwise legitimizes ignoring the fundamental, the constitutional, laws and authorities under which law enforcement legitimately operates.)
Different story if child services are brought in.
Close to you, I believe?
True, though the important point is how Sec 10 of the KY Constitution was not upheld.
It makes sense that a complaint would not be made public due to privacy concerns for the kids although I doubt there is verifiable abuse going on in a truly free range household.
Me neither... looks like a mountain camp to me. Of course, up here in the Rockies, it would have to be a little more buttoned up, but I have seen worse.
It is not a suburban McMansion, surely, and to those who live in the McMansions I suppose it would be "disgusting."
There it is...
lol. How true. Go to THEIR homes and see how many men are having sex with their mommas on a weekend. I'd go riot too.
There's an awful lot of places I can think of that the number of G-men going in some place to grabs somebody’s kid would be greater than the number of G-men coming out of those same places upright.
CPS will take care of that, for sure, and quickly, so that the STATE and FOSTER PARENTS can collect from us!!
Well to whomever turned them in it seemed unsanitary and I guess the federals thought the same. But then, look at the living conditions of families during the Depression - was even worse. The Libtards need some kind of agenda to exist.
They live in horrible conditions. I don’t think the kids need to be taken away but they do need help. The kids are not homeschooled but they are allowed to learn what they want which includes hanging around talking. If they were homeschooled, I would be sticking up for this family but still request they get help from those already off the grid but are doing it right. They just need some assistance on how to raise children that is all. There is no manual on how to raise kids.
I doubt that any two people have the same criteria for defining “disgusting”. There are people in this rural area who live off-grid and gone Galt-I’m planning/setting it up for myself. There are people here who still have primitive septic systems, haul in their water and have generators for electricity.
There are as many kids homeschooled or in the small Christian school nearby as are in the public school. Kids walk down the roads in twos and threes-sometimes for miles. People mind their own damn business, or having been shunned, they soon feel the need to move elsewhere.
In areas of Alaska that are downright civilized, people still have outhouses because of the high cost of plumbing there. Many do not have running water. I doubt that 1/4 of the kids in remote areas go to a public school...
As someone who grew up on a remote ranch in a far-from-wealthy family, I’m guilty of having played in dirt/mud, roaming over 60 acres unsupervised, mucking around in barns among livestock-and making-oh, the horror-mud pies with my cousins for amusement, and getting filthy-but that is what a garden hose is for, people...
To this day none of us are sick, allergic, overweight-and we don’t use any drugs at all-we grew up eating fresh food produced right on the family’s land-I still eat only unprocessed food that I grow or barter with my neighbors....
It is no one’s business how someone raises their kids as long as those kids are not being abused-as in raped, beaten, etc-spanking and sitting in the corner don’t seem like abuse to me. CPS should not even exist-it is nothing but nanny nonsense that does far more harm than good for families and children.
I’d rather see a child brought up in a tent or shack, taught to read, write, do math and pray by their mom and dad than see them growing up in the projects with one parent, and learning nothing in a public school-but that is just my opinion...
I think if they were Homeschooling the kids they would be ok, but not having them in any sort of educational program is not good at all. The other thing is that this is 100 percent the Mom’s fault. She just had to brag or get attention on Facebook. If she would have shut her mouth, her kids would still be with the parents. She needs to look in the mirror a few times and realize that she made a huge mistake.
pfl
Kentucky can get cold in the winter. How do they keep the kids, especially the toddlers, warm in tents?
While it seems the state acted very heavy handedly, it seems intervention may have been warranted.
Isn’t this the kind of life the rabid environmentalists would like for everyone to lead? The only problem with this lifestyle is that there would be a need for using the trees for heating and building and the tree huggers would consider it murder to cut down a tree.
Only a fool ever posts anything on farcebook-anything-why would any intelligent person want to talk about themselves, family or their neighbors where it could even be read by people wanting to do harm to others?
She’s on Facebook? I didn’t realize they had electricity. I missed that part. Too busy looking at pictures. :)
And, of course, the kids need schooling, but bottom line..... they need their parents more. I can’t even imagine what the kids are going through right now.
Facebook is the devil in many ways; it’s a shame all around.
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