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Police Abduct 10 Children From A Family In Kentucky Because Of Their ‘Off The Grid’ Lifestyle
End of the American Dream ^ | May 8th, 2015 | Michael Snyder

Posted on 05/09/2015 11:42:37 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

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To: Sherman Logan
It is possible to note the story is more complicated than presented without trying to determine what the true story is.

Not really; the KY Constitution is explicit about the seizing of persons, it requires a warrant.
The police didn't have a warrant (or at least no mention of an actual warrant is made here or [from what I skimmed] in the reference you provided) — that's the whole story. (Claiming otherwise legitimizes ignoring the fundamental, the constitutional, laws and authorities under which law enforcement legitimately operates.)

41 posted on 05/09/2015 12:49:12 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

Different story if child services are brought in.


42 posted on 05/09/2015 12:51:08 PM PDT by caww
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To: cuban leaf

Close to you, I believe?


43 posted on 05/09/2015 12:53:09 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: caww

True, though the important point is how Sec 10 of the KY Constitution was not upheld.


44 posted on 05/09/2015 12:54:05 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: caww

It makes sense that a complaint would not be made public due to privacy concerns for the kids although I doubt there is verifiable abuse going on in a truly free range household.


45 posted on 05/09/2015 12:54:06 PM PDT by erlayman
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To: arthurus; SkyDancer
I looked at the pictures and saw nothing disgusting.

Me neither... looks like a mountain camp to me. Of course, up here in the Rockies, it would have to be a little more buttoned up, but I have seen worse.

It is not a suburban McMansion, surely, and to those who live in the McMansions I suppose it would be "disgusting."

There it is...

46 posted on 05/09/2015 12:56:50 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT
Where is the concern for the feral youth of Baltimore and other cities?

lol. How true. Go to THEIR homes and see how many men are having sex with their mommas on a weekend. I'd go riot too.

47 posted on 05/09/2015 1:04:35 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: 17th Miss Regt
That's what I was thinking.

There's an awful lot of places I can think of that the number of G-men going in some place to grabs somebody’s kid would be greater than the number of G-men coming out of those same places upright.

48 posted on 05/09/2015 1:17:51 PM PDT by skimbell
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To: George from New England

CPS will take care of that, for sure, and quickly, so that the STATE and FOSTER PARENTS can collect from us!!


49 posted on 05/09/2015 1:21:15 PM PDT by browniexyz
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To: roamer_1

Well to whomever turned them in it seemed unsanitary and I guess the federals thought the same. But then, look at the living conditions of families during the Depression - was even worse. The Libtards need some kind of agenda to exist.


50 posted on 05/09/2015 1:22:53 PM PDT by SkyDancer ( I Was Told Nobody Is Perfect But Yet, Here I Am ...)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

They live in horrible conditions. I don’t think the kids need to be taken away but they do need help. The kids are not homeschooled but they are allowed to learn what they want which includes hanging around talking. If they were homeschooled, I would be sticking up for this family but still request they get help from those already off the grid but are doing it right. They just need some assistance on how to raise children that is all. There is no manual on how to raise kids.


51 posted on 05/09/2015 1:23:02 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Walker for President 2016. The only candidate with actual real RESULTS!!!!! The rest...talkers!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; SkyDancer

I doubt that any two people have the same criteria for defining “disgusting”. There are people in this rural area who live off-grid and gone Galt-I’m planning/setting it up for myself. There are people here who still have primitive septic systems, haul in their water and have generators for electricity.

There are as many kids homeschooled or in the small Christian school nearby as are in the public school. Kids walk down the roads in twos and threes-sometimes for miles. People mind their own damn business, or having been shunned, they soon feel the need to move elsewhere.

In areas of Alaska that are downright civilized, people still have outhouses because of the high cost of plumbing there. Many do not have running water. I doubt that 1/4 of the kids in remote areas go to a public school...

As someone who grew up on a remote ranch in a far-from-wealthy family, I’m guilty of having played in dirt/mud, roaming over 60 acres unsupervised, mucking around in barns among livestock-and making-oh, the horror-mud pies with my cousins for amusement, and getting filthy-but that is what a garden hose is for, people...

To this day none of us are sick, allergic, overweight-and we don’t use any drugs at all-we grew up eating fresh food produced right on the family’s land-I still eat only unprocessed food that I grow or barter with my neighbors....

It is no one’s business how someone raises their kids as long as those kids are not being abused-as in raped, beaten, etc-spanking and sitting in the corner don’t seem like abuse to me. CPS should not even exist-it is nothing but nanny nonsense that does far more harm than good for families and children.

I’d rather see a child brought up in a tent or shack, taught to read, write, do math and pray by their mom and dad than see them growing up in the projects with one parent, and learning nothing in a public school-but that is just my opinion...


52 posted on 05/09/2015 1:27:35 PM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: mlizzy

I think if they were Homeschooling the kids they would be ok, but not having them in any sort of educational program is not good at all. The other thing is that this is 100 percent the Mom’s fault. She just had to brag or get attention on Facebook. If she would have shut her mouth, her kids would still be with the parents. She needs to look in the mirror a few times and realize that she made a huge mistake.


53 posted on 05/09/2015 1:30:23 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Walker for President 2016. The only candidate with actual real RESULTS!!!!! The rest...talkers!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

pfl


54 posted on 05/09/2015 1:30:26 PM PDT by outofsalt ( If history teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
The article in The Mail (post 4) differs markedly from the article quoted above. The Mail article says that on the family's Facebook page, it claims that the whole family, all 12, sleep on a large bench in one of the tents. Ma is preggers with child # 11. The fact that they were 'rollin' in the hay', in front of their kids is a major cause for concern.

Kentucky can get cold in the winter. How do they keep the kids, especially the toddlers, warm in tents?

While it seems the state acted very heavy handedly, it seems intervention may have been warranted.

55 posted on 05/09/2015 1:38:35 PM PDT by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was blind, but now I see...)
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To: Sherman Logan
This is the home for these ten kids.


56 posted on 05/09/2015 1:39:29 PM PDT by caww
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To: rey

Isn’t this the kind of life the rabid environmentalists would like for everyone to lead? The only problem with this lifestyle is that there would be a need for using the trees for heating and building and the tree huggers would consider it murder to cut down a tree.


57 posted on 05/09/2015 1:41:37 PM PDT by Happy1947
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To: NRx
This is for the animals they keep


58 posted on 05/09/2015 1:42:23 PM PDT by caww
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To: napscoordinator

Only a fool ever posts anything on farcebook-anything-why would any intelligent person want to talk about themselves, family or their neighbors where it could even be read by people wanting to do harm to others?


59 posted on 05/09/2015 1:42:27 PM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: napscoordinator

She’s on Facebook? I didn’t realize they had electricity. I missed that part. Too busy looking at pictures. :)

And, of course, the kids need schooling, but bottom line..... they need their parents more. I can’t even imagine what the kids are going through right now.

Facebook is the devil in many ways; it’s a shame all around.


60 posted on 05/09/2015 1:45:10 PM PDT by mlizzy ("Tell your troubles to Jesus," my wisecracking father used to say, and now I do.......at adoration.)
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