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Police Abduct 10 Children From A Family In Kentucky Because Of Their ‘Off The Grid’ Lifestyle
End of the American Dream ^ | May 8th, 2015 | Michael Snyder

Posted on 05/09/2015 11:42:37 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

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1 posted on 05/09/2015 11:42:37 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Disturbing, but should be remembered this is the case for the prosecution, not necessarily the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.


2 posted on 05/09/2015 11:47:59 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Saw pictures on the Daily Mail. Disgusting living conditions.


3 posted on 05/09/2015 11:49:50 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( I Was Told Nobody Is Perfect But Yet, Here I Am ...)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

There is definitely more than one side to this story. There are some pretty serious allegations which if true (I am making no judgments) might justify some kind of intervention.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3074746/Surrounded-garbage-kept-school-neighbors-threatened-knives-s-just-free-range-parenting-claim-parents-blast-authorities-seizing-10-kids.html


4 posted on 05/09/2015 11:53:02 AM PDT by NRx (An unrepentant champion of the old order and determined foe of damnable Whiggery in all its forms.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I guess he doesn’t like using passwords on pizza delivery sites.


5 posted on 05/09/2015 11:53:29 AM PDT by Pilgrim's Progress (http://www.baptistbiblebelievers.com/BYTOPICS/tabid/335/Default.aspx)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

But police brutality against Whitey will not make it to the 6 o’clock news.


6 posted on 05/09/2015 11:54:42 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I would be tempted to do something quite illegal to bring some understanding to these CPS types.


7 posted on 05/09/2015 11:56:23 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: SkyDancer

They seemed happy with it.


8 posted on 05/09/2015 11:57:30 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

They did it because they could do it and because they don’t think the family can obtain high powered counsel.


9 posted on 05/09/2015 11:57:40 AM PDT by arthurus (it's true!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

This is a reminder to those who chime in on home school stories that the mom should never let the social worker/police in without a warrant. These folks DID NOT give permission, and their place was invaded and the children taken away anyway. Yes, their legal challenge will be stronger later, in the meantime, their ten children have been sent to who knows where.


10 posted on 05/09/2015 11:59:09 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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Hillary Clinton, “It Takes a Village” to take your children!


11 posted on 05/09/2015 12:02:26 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: SkyDancer
I looked at the pictures and saw nothing disgusting.It is not a suburban McMansion, surely, and to those who live in the McMansions I suppose it would be "disgusting."

Kid play in the mud. When I was small my sister and I did a lot of that. Sometimes we had to get hosed off before we were allowed in the house.

12 posted on 05/09/2015 12:02:45 PM PDT by arthurus (it's true!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Note that I am not an advocate of "unschoolng" (as they call their educational style) nor of dietary or sanitary primitivism. Nevertheless, armed man cannot come into property and forcibly bust families in this way unless there is provable evidence of imminent harm.

No matter how primitive the conditions, the gvt. needs a warrant to enter private land and seize people and property. If, as reported, the kids are all healthy and happy, this sounds like tyranny to me.

13 posted on 05/09/2015 12:03:57 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("The further a society drifts from truth, the more it will hate those who speak it." - George Orwell)
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Sorry, but what I saw does not justify taking the kids away, splitting them up, without their parents, without proper investigation of abuse and/or neglect. I have seen much worse conditions in govt. provided housing of Chicago, NYC, etc.


14 posted on 05/09/2015 12:05:14 PM PDT by Sioux-san
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The living conditions look pretty bad. However, did the cops have a warrant for the seizure of the children? I incline towards supporting the authorities in this particular case as long as they followed the proper forms. The dad sounds like a nut job, the conditions are filthy, all in all it does not look good for the parents. The kids in one photo do look happy.


15 posted on 05/09/2015 12:05:19 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Along the lines of my previous post, before taking this story at face value, I strongly recommend reading the article at this link:

http://kathrynbrightbill.com/post/118481565656/here-are-7-surprising-things-you-need-to-know

Not everybody who gets in trouble with the cops or has their children taken away is a victim of unjustified government meddling.

16 posted on 05/09/2015 12:06:01 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Dr. Sivana
These folks DID NOT give permission, and their place was invaded and the children taken away anyway.

Until officers start paying for executing warrentless seizures with their lives, I doubt we'll see anything in the way of reform.

17 posted on 05/09/2015 12:07:28 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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No matter how primitive the conditions, the gvt. needs a warrant to enter private land and seize people and property.

Bingo.

18 posted on 05/09/2015 12:08:45 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: demshateGod

Living off the grid doesn’t mean you have to live in something worse than a pigsty.


19 posted on 05/09/2015 12:10:14 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: Sherman Logan
http://kathrynbrightbill.com/post/118481565656/here-are-7-surprising-things-you-need-to-know
Not everybody who gets in trouble with the cops or has their children taken away is a victim of unjustified government meddling.

The headings from the article:
1. Homeschooling is legal
2. The CPS Complaint
3. Living Conditions
4. This was not their first contact with CPS
5. Possible identification abuse
6. Previous run-ins with the law
7. The audio recordings

If these are correct, esp. #3 and #4, why was there no warrant?

The KY Constitution says, in part:

Section 10
The people shall be secure in their persons, houses, papers and possessions, from unreasonable search and seizure; and no warrant shall issue to search any place, or seize any person or thing, without describing them as nearly as may be, nor without probable cause supported by oath or affirmation.
So, given that the children are people, and were seized, the government needs a warrant describing them, no?
20 posted on 05/09/2015 12:16:00 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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