Posted on 05/08/2015 10:01:46 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
In the Western popular imagination -- particularly the American one -- World War II is a conflict we won. It was fought on the beaches of Normandy and Iwo Jima, through the rubble of recaptured French towns and capped by sepia-toned scenes of joy and young love in New York. It was a victory shaped by the steeliness of Gen. Dwight D. Eisenhower, the moral fiber of British Prime Minister Winston Churchill, and the awesome power of an atomic bomb.
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Yes. He was absolutely right.
“He says that between 1933 and 1945 in the “bloodlands” — the broad sweep of territory on the periphery of the Soviet and Nazi realms — some 14 million civilians were killed.”
Wow
Or killed their own officer cadre in the ‘30’s.
Or killed their own troops to motivate others.
Or practiced espionage constantly against us and other allies.
Or depended on American material, technology and funding.
Or . . .
Or . . .
Or . . .
In 1940? No. Not close
In 1943 maybe.
They sure did. They came to our aid after the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor./s
> Too bad the UK and the US couldn’t have figured out a way to let Stalin and Hitler bash each others brains out for a few years before getting involved.
They did. The US didn’t have troops on the ground until late 42, and even then it wasn’t much compared to the scale of the ear in the East.
The Soviet Union enslaved most of Europe into Communism and 100s of millions dead under the dictators. Communism won.
Ping
I attended a program on WWII recently. One of the speakers was an immigrant from Russia. She showed how their textbooks trivialized the Normandy invasion, claiming that the Allies met only minor resistance.
From August 1944 to Feb. 1945, the Soviets stopped advancing in Poland (they did move forward during that period in the Balkans). Supposedly they had to do so for logistical reasons. It was during that period that Hitler launched the offensive in the West that we call the Battle of the Bulge.
When Soviet troops first met up with American troops in Germany, they thought we were using their tanks. We had given the Soviets a huge number of Sherman tanks but the Red Army soldiers didn't realize they were made in the US, not in the USSR.
I attended a program on WWII recently. One of the speakers was an immigrant from Russia. She showed how their textbooks trivialized the Normandy invasion, claiming that the Allies met only minor resistance.
From August 1944 to Feb. 1945, the Soviets stopped advancing in Poland (they did move forward during that period in the Balkans). Supposedly they had to do so for logistical reasons. It was during that period that Hitler launched the offensive in the West that we call the Battle of the Bulge.
When Soviet troops first met up with American troops in Germany, they thought we were using their tanks. We had given the Soviets a huge number of Sherman tanks but the Red Army soldiers didn't realize they were made in the US, not in the USSR.
Have you read the book “Aftermath”? It has a chapter on the French deminiers.
Didn’t Roosevelt give Stalin the same territory Hitler promised him?
Well, let’s leave out Berlin.
And let’s make fun of the AH of 2015’s VE Day+1: Obama. Today is my personal make fun of 0bama day. These are his selfies: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/02/12/obama-makes-faces-takes-selfies-and-goofs-off-in-buzzfeed-video/
I put them here to call to mind how glorious actual American military men and women were and are.
And yet Stalin remained in power and wound up grabbing half of Europe in 1945. That doesn't fit with what I was thinking.
You are most correct, but our college campuses gloss over that.
All of those regimes have something in common - Marxist hellholes. You forgot the hundreds of thousands who died during North Vietnam’s “agricultural reforms” which were inspired by PRC agricultural policies in the 1950s.
That was a theme in one of Martin Cruz Smith's more recent novels, Stalin's Ghost. (I like the Arkady Renko stories.)
If by 'squelching' you mean 'prohibiting denial', I have to agree. Do you champion Holocaust denial in the name of liberty, or - against all visible evidence - do you see the German establishment engaging in such?
As an aside, Bavaria was known in the past for having one of the most rigorous standards in higher school education (in contrast to, e.g., Bremen or North-Rhine Westphalia). Have standards really degraded so much since the days of Franz Josef Strauss? I recognize that the CSU is a mere shadow of its former self, but has it gotten that bad?
The Soviet Union saved itself and enslaved half of Europe as well.
Yes plus Eastern Germany.
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