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Don’t forget how the Soviet Union saved the world from Hitler
The Washington Post ^ | May 8, 2015 | By Ishaan Tharoor

Posted on 05/08/2015 10:01:46 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican

In the Western popular imagination -- particularly the American one -- World War II is a conflict we won. It was fought on the beaches of Normandy and Iwo Jima, through the rubble of recaptured French towns and capped by sepia-toned scenes of joy and young love in New York. It was a victory shaped by the steeliness of Gen. Dwight D. Eisenhower, the moral fiber of British Prime Minister Winston Churchill, and the awesome power of an atomic bomb.

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To: Aetius

Yes. He was absolutely right.


101 posted on 05/09/2015 4:31:04 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (The White House is now known as "Casa Blanca".)
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To: MinorityRepublican

“He says that between 1933 and 1945 in the “bloodlands” — the broad sweep of territory on the periphery of the Soviet and Nazi realms — some 14 million civilians were killed.”

Wow


102 posted on 05/09/2015 4:48:34 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: Flag_This

Or killed their own officer cadre in the ‘30’s.

Or killed their own troops to motivate others.

Or practiced espionage constantly against us and other allies.

Or depended on American material, technology and funding.

Or . . .

Or . . .

Or . . .


103 posted on 05/09/2015 5:11:08 AM PDT by WorkingClassFilth
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To: DesertRhino
Actually the US army outclassed them in every imaginable way.

In 1940? No. Not close

In 1943 maybe.

104 posted on 05/09/2015 5:28:45 AM PDT by corkoman
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To: Darksheare
The claim also is that the soviets won the war in the pacific.
Lol.

They sure did. They came to our aid after the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor./s

105 posted on 05/09/2015 6:01:48 AM PDT by Know et al (Keep on Freepin'!!!)
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To: PGR88

> Too bad the UK and the US couldn’t have figured out a way to let Stalin and Hitler bash each others brains out for a few years before getting involved.

They did. The US didn’t have troops on the ground until late 42, and even then it wasn’t much compared to the scale of the ear in the East.


106 posted on 05/09/2015 6:03:16 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: MinorityRepublican

The Soviet Union enslaved most of Europe into Communism and 100s of millions dead under the dictators. Communism won.


107 posted on 05/09/2015 6:42:49 AM PDT by VitacoreVision
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To: MinorityRepublican

Ping


108 posted on 05/09/2015 7:07:38 AM PDT by Sivad (NorCal red turf ;-))
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To: PGR88
I looked at some old newspapers on microfilm from right after the German attack on the Soviet Union. Senator Harry Truman expressed the opinion that we should let Hitler and Stalin fight it out (as long as we didn't let Hitler win).

I attended a program on WWII recently. One of the speakers was an immigrant from Russia. She showed how their textbooks trivialized the Normandy invasion, claiming that the Allies met only minor resistance.

From August 1944 to Feb. 1945, the Soviets stopped advancing in Poland (they did move forward during that period in the Balkans). Supposedly they had to do so for logistical reasons. It was during that period that Hitler launched the offensive in the West that we call the Battle of the Bulge.

When Soviet troops first met up with American troops in Germany, they thought we were using their tanks. We had given the Soviets a huge number of Sherman tanks but the Red Army soldiers didn't realize they were made in the US, not in the USSR.

109 posted on 05/09/2015 7:48:35 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: PGR88
I looked at some old newspapers on microfilm from right after the German attack on the Soviet Union. Senator Harry Truman expressed the opinion that we should let Hitler and Stalin fight it out (as long as we didn't let Hitler win).

I attended a program on WWII recently. One of the speakers was an immigrant from Russia. She showed how their textbooks trivialized the Normandy invasion, claiming that the Allies met only minor resistance.

From August 1944 to Feb. 1945, the Soviets stopped advancing in Poland (they did move forward during that period in the Balkans). Supposedly they had to do so for logistical reasons. It was during that period that Hitler launched the offensive in the West that we call the Battle of the Bulge.

When Soviet troops first met up with American troops in Germany, they thought we were using their tanks. We had given the Soviets a huge number of Sherman tanks but the Red Army soldiers didn't realize they were made in the US, not in the USSR.

110 posted on 05/09/2015 7:48:35 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: FreedomPoster

Have you read the book “Aftermath”? It has a chapter on the French deminiers.


111 posted on 05/09/2015 7:50:58 AM PDT by CrazyIvan (I lost my phased plasma rifle in a tragic hovercraft accident.)
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To: Aetius

Didn’t Roosevelt give Stalin the same territory Hitler promised him?


112 posted on 05/09/2015 8:27:39 AM PDT by Dalberg-Acton
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To: Dalberg-Acton

Well, let’s leave out Berlin.

And let’s make fun of the AH of 2015’s VE Day+1: Obama. Today is my personal make fun of 0bama day. These are his selfies: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/02/12/obama-makes-faces-takes-selfies-and-goofs-off-in-buzzfeed-video/

I put them here to call to mind how glorious actual American military men and women were and are.


113 posted on 05/09/2015 8:30:24 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: glorgau
They did. The US didn’t have troops on the ground until late 42, and even then it wasn’t much compared to the scale of the ear in the East.

And yet Stalin remained in power and wound up grabbing half of Europe in 1945. That doesn't fit with what I was thinking.

114 posted on 05/09/2015 10:13:00 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: PIF

You are most correct, but our college campuses gloss over that.


115 posted on 05/09/2015 11:27:27 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Pontiac

All of those regimes have something in common - Marxist hellholes. You forgot the hundreds of thousands who died during North Vietnam’s “agricultural reforms” which were inspired by PRC agricultural policies in the 1950s.


116 posted on 05/09/2015 11:34:06 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: tcrlaf
Today, in modern Russia, there are groups that go around to WW2 battlefields that search for, find, and bury the remains of Russians that died there. They have published videos of it on Youtube for several years now. Some of their artifact finds are astonishing. And occasionally, some of them get killed by unearthing unexploded munitions.

That was a theme in one of Martin Cruz Smith's more recent novels, Stalin's Ghost. (I like the Arkady Renko stories.)

117 posted on 05/09/2015 11:41:53 AM PDT by Moltke
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To: nathanbedford
German establishment (...) squelches free speech concerning the Holocaust, rather than guaranteeing liberty.

If by 'squelching' you mean 'prohibiting denial', I have to agree. Do you champion Holocaust denial in the name of liberty, or - against all visible evidence - do you see the German establishment engaging in such?

As an aside, Bavaria was known in the past for having one of the most rigorous standards in higher school education (in contrast to, e.g., Bremen or North-Rhine Westphalia). Have standards really degraded so much since the days of Franz Josef Strauss? I recognize that the CSU is a mere shadow of its former self, but has it gotten that bad?

118 posted on 05/09/2015 12:07:09 PM PDT by Moltke
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To: MinorityRepublican

The Soviet Union saved itself and enslaved half of Europe as well.


119 posted on 05/09/2015 1:26:14 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Dalberg-Acton
Didn’t Roosevelt give Stalin the same territory Hitler promised him?

Yes plus Eastern Germany.

120 posted on 05/09/2015 1:32:09 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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