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Wartime navy captain blamed for letting Nazi U-boat get away.... now hailed as a hero...
Daily Mail (UK) ^ | 8th May 2015 | Elaine O'Flynn

Posted on 05/07/2015 2:30:39 PM PDT by naturalman1975

The reputation of a disgraced wartime navy captain has been restored, thanks to the discoveries of a documentary featuring the finder of the Titanic.

For more than 60 years, Captain Herbert G. Claudius was blamed for letting a Nazi U-boat ‘get away’, after it sank the Robert E. Lee passenger freighter in the Gulf of Mexico in 1942.

But an undersea expedition – aided by Dr Robert Ballard who rediscovered the Titanic 30 years ago – has revealed the first published pictures of the submarine’s wreckage, showing how bombs dropped by Cpt Claudius’ crew successfully sunk the attacker U-166.

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On July 30, 1942, the Robert E. Lee passenger ship carrying 407 people was sunk by a torpedo dispatched from U-166.

Captain Claudius and his men pursued the submarine after the attack and dropped depth charges, but the German u-boar never surfaced

The US team declared victory and set about rescuing passengers from the sunken ship - but days later, 140 miles, there was another sighting of the deadly Nazi submarine.

Captain Claudius was reportedly hauled in front of his bosses to be reprimanded for letting the U-boat get away, and he was ordered to return to naval college.

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Secretary Ray Mabus praised the officer and his crew's bravery for working in 'very dangerous waters.'

'Seventy years later, we now know that [Claudius’s] report after the action was absolutely correct,” Mabus said in a report by website Star and Stripes.

“[He] did sink that U-boat, and it’s never too late to set the record straight.'

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: godsgravesglyphs; gulfofmexico; herbertgclaudius; michaelgannon; operationdrumbeat; raymabus; robertballard; shipwreck; shipwrecks; titanic; u166; worldwareleven; wwii
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1 posted on 05/07/2015 2:30:39 PM PDT by naturalman1975
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To: naturalman1975

How wonderful technology is.


2 posted on 05/07/2015 2:34:48 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: "I should like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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To: naturalman1975
All this time people thinking that the U-boat wasn't sunk and that Claudius had failed...And the sub crew in a cold silent grave the whole time.

Pretty sad when you think about it.

3 posted on 05/07/2015 2:37:34 PM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Cruz or lose!)
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To: naturalman1975
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/military/Nazi-Attack-America.html

A recent show on PBS about it said that the way the bow was split from the rest of the sub the torpedoes must have detonated in the sub. They suspected, but didn't prove, that one of the depth charges must have dropped right on top of the sub.

4 posted on 05/07/2015 2:40:06 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Darth Obama on 529 plans: I am altering the deal. Pray I don't alter it any further.)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

War is hell.


5 posted on 05/07/2015 2:42:01 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd
The Krauts would have known that the boat never returned, but wouldn't necessarily have known where and when she went down. So there's that, at least.

What's really sad is that the brave young men of her crew were sent off to fight for such a beastly cause.

6 posted on 05/07/2015 2:42:14 PM PDT by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: naturalman1975

Well considering the captain lived under a cloud regarding the incident, this revelation did come too late.

I am glad it did come.


7 posted on 05/07/2015 2:42:50 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Conservatism: Now home to liars too. And we'll support them. Yea... GOPe)
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To: DoughtyOne
Shadow Divers

About the discovery and identification of another mysterious U-Boat wreck.

8 posted on 05/07/2015 2:45:23 PM PDT by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: naturalman1975

If Captain Claudius and his crew were successful in hitting and sinking the sub was it another sub spotted 140 miles away am I missing a point?
Thanks, for any clarification!


9 posted on 05/07/2015 2:46:00 PM PDT by GOYAKLA
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To: naturalman1975

The story notes the German submarine was dispatched to U.S. waters as part of Operation Drumbeat in 1942. The book of the same name, by Michael Gannon, is a good read on that operation. The numbers of German U-Boats in U.S. waters were very small early in the war, but they still wreaked havoc due to a lack of coordinated action by the U.S. Navy.

Used copies of ‘Operation Drumbeat’ are available for a few cents on Amazon and for anyone interested in WWII military history will provide hours of good reading.


10 posted on 05/07/2015 2:46:06 PM PDT by Stevenc131
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To: KarlInOhio

I saw that show. Great underwater videos. There is a German researcher that has said for many years that U-166 was sunk because she never returned to port.


11 posted on 05/07/2015 2:48:08 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: GOYAKLA
If Captain Claudius and his crew were successful in hitting and sinking the sub was it another sub spotted 140 miles away am I missing a point?

Yes. Many U-Boats prowled off the American coast and did huge amounts of damage.

12 posted on 05/07/2015 2:48:13 PM PDT by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: GOYAKLA

Yes - a mistake was obviously made with the report about the second sighting. Most likely it was a different submarine being misidentified.


13 posted on 05/07/2015 2:49:47 PM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: NorthMountain

Thanks for the link to me and for others as well.

Looks good.


14 posted on 05/07/2015 2:50:23 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Conservatism: Now home to liars too. And we'll support them. Yea... GOPe)
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To: naturalman1975

Thanks, for the replies.
I was born in Miami and my Dad worked on Miami Beach during the war. He was Chief Engineer at Ice Plant on South Beach. HIs company supplied Ice to the hotels(taken over by the military) and also some ships of the Navy stationed around Miami. My brothers and I played among the PT boats around the area.
There was a rumor(?) about a sub wreckage off the coast of Florida, that produced flotsam, that included a ticket stub from Gateway theater in Ft. Lauderdale.
I remember my father having to cover his car headlights with tape, leaving a sliver of light, to drive the causeway from Miami to the Beach. Nigh-time driving along the beaches was highly restricted.
Thanks again!


15 posted on 05/07/2015 3:05:20 PM PDT by GOYAKLA
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To: naturalman1975

At this time in the war, American anti-sub warfare was very primitive. Not sure if they even had sonar yet. Which makes the sinking of this sub by Captain Claudius and crew even more a great accomplishment. The article says they apparently didn’t just drop a depth charge somewhere near the sub to do it in either, they dropped it right on it! A rare thing - even later on in the war when they had much improved ASW gear. A needle in a haystack thing.


16 posted on 05/07/2015 3:13:07 PM PDT by sasportas
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To: miss marmelstein
How wonderful technology is.

and how shitty the politicized military bureaucracy is.

17 posted on 05/07/2015 3:13:54 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: naturalman1975

I read a book years ago about U-124, the “Edelweiss” boat.

I recall the captain’s favorite hunting grounds was the Gulf of Mexico between New Orleans and Panama City. I wonder if his was the other boat sighted?


18 posted on 05/07/2015 3:16:44 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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To: naturalman1975

And how many years was he vilified?


19 posted on 05/07/2015 3:17:17 PM PDT by SkyDancer ( I Was Told Nobody Is Perfect But Yet, Here I Am ...)
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To: NorthMountain

Great book!


20 posted on 05/07/2015 3:21:37 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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