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MSgt. JD Hinton Debunks ‘Jade Helm’ Conspiracy Theories
Lars Larson Show ^ | May 6, 2015 | Lars Larson

Posted on 05/07/2015 8:31:38 AM PDT by Baynative

An interview from Lars Larson concerning the Jade Helm conspiracy worries.

(Excerpt) Read more at larslarson.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: conspiracy; jade; jadehelm; lars; martiallaw
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To: Crim

You made the statement about what BO thinks, not me. Your memory is slipping. Are you paranoid? Let’s see, a guy who carry’s a revolver with two extra speed loaders isn’t paranoid? Now that is a good one.

I didn’t say the military is going to convert, I said they will follow orders, not all, but most. Read your history kid.


81 posted on 05/07/2015 10:37:03 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: Crim

This exercise should be about gaining control of all the mosques and their adherents here in the US. That would be more rational than targeting vets returned to the civilian population.


82 posted on 05/07/2015 10:37:13 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: re_nortex

Hear, hear.


83 posted on 05/07/2015 10:38:01 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: Neoliberalnot
I don’t have a low opinion of them, but, soldiers are trained and drilled to follow orders. Keep in mind they followed orders to kill their fellow Americans in the distant past. I would wager 90% will do as they are told. What do you think?

There's a world of difference between 1860 and now, and the game on the ground is so vastly different that no comparison can reasonably be made between the two. However, I'd still put the number more at around 40% or so. The problem is that this number creeps upwards every year as more and more "old" military (i.e. the guys who joined for love of country, etc. and who are generally conservative, Christians, and so forth) retire, refuse to re-up, or are cashiered out. They're being replaced by Mexicans and other foreigners, gangbangers and other lowlifes, and other assorted rabble who will have no problem viewing old white middle class constitutionalist gun owners as "the enemy."

The fortunately thing is that mercenaries are usually not as motivated as volunteers. Likewise, the "new" military (the Mexicans, gangbangers, etc.) are generally neither as intelligent nor as competent as the guys they're replacing. Less initiative. Less innovative in their thinking. Less disciplined to follow orders and withstand military disciple.

84 posted on 05/07/2015 10:42:12 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (It's time to repeal and replace the GOP)
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To: Baynative

ANNNNDD.... They do not have enough to do, like stomp on Muzzies in their own countries? Or round up illegal criminals in this country? If we have been doing this BS for the last 50+ years, how the hell do we have 40,000,000 + million criminals running around this country burning it down?


85 posted on 05/07/2015 10:42:31 AM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Hey I give up...you can all have your little Alex Jones based freak out party...

I’m going back to Reality like the ISIS attack on Pam Geller cartoon fest while you all hand wring about your fellow citizens who volunteer to protect your butt.

Support the troops my ass....

Shame....shame of ALL of you


86 posted on 05/07/2015 10:43:21 AM PDT by Crim (Palin / West '16)
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To: Neoliberalnot; Georgia Girl 2; Crim; mad_as_he$$
Concerning Jade Helm, All-American Christian Patriot Louie Gohmert stated:

When leaders within the current administration believe that major threats to the country include those who support the Constitution, are military veterans, or even ‘cling to guns or religion,’ patriotic Americans have reason to be concerned. We have seen people working in this administration use their government positions to persecute people with conservative beliefs in God, country, and notions such as honor and self-reliance. Because of the contempt and antipathy for the true patriots or even Christian saints persecuted for their Christian beliefs, it is no surprise that those who have experienced or noticed such persecution are legitimately suspicious.

Congressman Gohmert is certainly not a tin-foiler nor is he an Alex Jones follower. He's a very intelligent, rational Texan who loves the Lord.


87 posted on 05/07/2015 10:47:36 AM PDT by re_nortex (DP - that's what I like about Texas)
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To: Neoliberalnot

Whut?...you went and perved my posting history?

LMAO!!!!

Now THAT is parnoid.

Just what were you looking for?

Were you gonna try and accuse me of being a shill?...a liberal?

Or what?

Yeah I carry...I’m a certified CCW instructor as well.....nothing paranoid about it....I’m exercising my god given right to self defense.

Now go hug your pillow in the craven fear that the US military is gonna come get you....

That’s precious...


88 posted on 05/07/2015 10:50:13 AM PDT by Crim (Palin / West '16)
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To: Crim

“So you are saying our troops are merely mind numbed robots who will blindly follow any orders they are given?”

Yes, I remember how they refused to assist the feds in Ruby Ridge, and in Waco. Oh wait!!
But no, they aren’t mind numbed robots, but they are easily duped and threatened. Duped, “those Branch Davidians are molesting kids, stockpiling machine guns, threatening world peace,,etc.
And Threatened, “if you DON’T follow orders, talk to Michael New, or google “Ft Leavenworth”.

Yes Virgina, US military formations will indeed attack you. Realize that the first president many have ever known was Clinton. In war games now, the enemy is not fictional “Orange nation” against “Blue nation”. It is the US military needing to suppress a regional TEA insurgency. Large numbers of them do not have any memory of old America. They look at the old military/civilian relationship in the manner that you would look at WWI.
Some are trustworthy, some are utter scoundrels. Their leader, Commander in Chief, is a homosexual, moslem Marxist, who grew up in Indonesia, and was nurtured by Weather Underground, and an honest to God “Big Jim McClain” nest of Hawaiian communists.

Choose wisely when deciding if you can trust them.


89 posted on 05/07/2015 10:50:35 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Crim

At Ft Campbell they had an entire neighborhood of mock houses built so they could train urban warfare. It’s not exactly the same, but it’s better trying to do a mock up than going in cold.

Do I trust the government? No. Would I put it past an Obama-type character to attempt an overthrow. I would not.

But, I also know what Army training looks like. Moreover, the guys I knew in SpecOps would NEVER have participated in a takedown of their own people. When they bled it was red, white, and blue.


90 posted on 05/07/2015 10:51:06 AM PDT by xzins (Donate to the Freep-a-Thon or lose your ONLY voice. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SZonian

Such a move would not work—to do so you would need support of the Army and not a few Leftist Generals—The Rank and file would not fire on American Citizens. Such a move would spark widespred rebellion and Rev War II or worse. Baltimore would be as a walk in the park. General Strikes, millions in the streets. In this Obama would manage to unify the people—against him!


91 posted on 05/07/2015 10:53:16 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll Onward! Ride to the sound of the guns!)
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To: DesertRhino
Their leader, Commander in Chief, is a homosexual, moslem Marxist, who grew up in Indonesia, and was nurtured by Weather Underground, and an honest to God “Big Jim McClain” nest of Hawaiian communists.

Truer words were never spoken FRiend. Thanks! Even during the WHCD, hussein openly admitted his homosexuality and that of Biden's as well. Plus he made no secret of his mooslime "faith" brazenly bragging about his five daily prayers to the pedophile mohammed.

92 posted on 05/07/2015 10:55:19 AM PDT by re_nortex (DP - that's what I like about Texas)
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To: Crim

“who is going to be called on to quell a city on fire full of armed gang bangers?
Oh yeah....the Military and National guard.”

Interesting. Military n domestic law enforcement. Guess Posse Comitatus is basically over.


93 posted on 05/07/2015 10:55:55 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: re_nortex

Everyone forgets that. And they forget that the Wehrmacht had the power to crush the SS at any moment they chose. The Wehrmacht leadership and soldiers were often disgusted by things they saw happening.
But a little propaganda about the Bolshevik threat and the Jewish stab in the back, combined with a few threats,,,,

and they did nothing,,,and participated. Never underestimate the treachery and stupidity of people in large groups.


94 posted on 05/07/2015 11:01:49 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: DesertRhino

Ruby ridge?..WACO?

Yeah we all remember those events....that is a far cry from rounding up tens of millions of Americans and trying to confiscate over 300 million firearms.

It’s like you cant even grasp the scope of Military power and deployment that was required to quell a country the size of Ohio.

SMH.


95 posted on 05/07/2015 11:02:09 AM PDT by Crim (Palin / West '16)
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To: Neoliberalnot
"For years now, our veterans, Christians, patriots, gun owners, constitutionalists, pro-life advocates, small government supporters, small businesses, real journalists in the press, anti-corruption activists, anti-UN Agenda 21 advocates, anti-global warming supporters, anti-war patriots, anti-criminal immigration supporters, have all been targeted by this administration as enemies of the United States, even within government documents."

While that is true the difference usually lies in the fact that inside government nasties are not of the patriotic heart as most military are.

I really don't think (even on orders) there are many in service today who would start shackling private citizens, or even demand their arms.

96 posted on 05/07/2015 11:05:05 AM PDT by Baynative (We are experiencing the type of government the founders warned us about.)
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To: Crim

“Yeah we all remember those events....that is a far cry from rounding up tens of millions of Americans and trying to confiscate over 300 million firearms.”

Straw man much? I never said that. I said the US military will attack normal citizens. And they will do so with gusto. Starting with the Whiskey rebellion.
Look up Ludlow. Patton and McArthur did it at the Bonus march. Kent State,,There are so many times they have shot up citizens that its silly to argue they wouldn’t.

And all I say it that it is an exercise designed for future CONUS COIN operations on a very large scale, coordinating Military, and several federal and local agencies across several states.
I didn’t say this exercise was designed to arrest millions and confiscate 300 million guns. Nice strawman though.
Go lick some boots,,,


97 posted on 05/07/2015 11:09:43 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: DesertRhino

You clearly dont know crap about US history then do you.

Google up the 1968 riots and see how much US military force was deployed to stop the mass rioting in cities across the US.

Johnson deployed 5000 US troops to chicago alone.

Or Google the LA riots....the US military was deployed for that too

Troops from the 7th Infantry Division, and Marines from 1st Marine Division were deployed in LA


98 posted on 05/07/2015 11:12:35 AM PDT by Crim (Palin / West '16)
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To: DesertRhino

Go lick some boots?

Should I wait till you are done stabbing our troops in the back first?


99 posted on 05/07/2015 11:13:44 AM PDT by Crim (Palin / West '16)
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To: xzins
Bingo for the most part....this training isnt a secret....it's being done to test logistics and movement over a very large area...and it's 1200 guys across 7 states...

sheesh.

We have the 180th NG air wing here in Toledo....when I see a training sortie take off I certainly dont think “omg they are going to do air strikes on Cleveland (although it might improve the place...LOL)

100 posted on 05/07/2015 11:20:10 AM PDT by Crim (Palin / West '16)
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