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Iowa GOP rep: ‘Nothing worse’ than homeschoolers telling us how to vote
LifeSiteNews ^ | 5/4/15 | Ben Johnson

Posted on 05/05/2015 6:35:04 AM PDT by wagglebee

ANKENY, IA, May 4, 2015 (LifeSiteNews.com) – In a private e-mail exchange with a concerned parent, Republican state legislator Josh Byrnes of Iowa said there is “nothing worse than homeschool parents” making their views known on public school policy.

The statement came as Jeff Moorman took exception to a pending bill allegedly dealing with “bullying,” the “Bully Free Iowa Act of 2015” (HSB 39).

The proposal would allow school districts to monitor students outside of school hours and punish – or contact law enforcement officials and state bureaucratic agencies over – any communication it deems “bullying” – even if that behavior takes place inside a private residence or on social media. Some of these complaints may be filed without first notifying parents.

School administrators could accuse a child of bullying if any comment dealing with “sexual orientation” and “gender identity” – as well as a broad swath of categories encompassing everything from “behavior, friendship or relationship with others” to “political party preference, political belief...or any other distinguishing characteristic” – created a “hostile school environment.”

Parents are concerned this would lead to teachers and public education union employees launching surveillance of students' Facebook or Twitter accounts for stray comments about homosexuality or transgender status.

“This bill infringes on parental rights” and allows teachers to “invade [a] student's rights and privacy,” Moorman, who is part of the educational watchdog group Iowa for Student Achievement, told State Rep. Byrnes, R-Osage. Moorman said the proposal grants school officials “overreaching authority.”

Rep. Byrnes replied by asking, “Which Ankeny school are your kids part of?”

After Moorman answered his question, Byrnes wrote, “That’s good. I was making sure you didn’t h[om]e school.”

“Nothing worse than homeschool parents trying to tell us legislators how to run public schools when they don’t use them themselves,” State Rep. Byrnes wrote.

Moorman provided the e-mails to the blog Caffeinated Thoughts. The full exchange may be read here.

“Nowhere in the language of the bill does it restrict the school’s scope to just students enrolled in their school district,” wrote Shane Vander Hart, who broke the story. “Homeschooling parents have reason to be concerned.”

He also blasted Byrnes' dismissal of homeschoolers' right to have a voice in the legislative process. “Actually, there’s nothing worse than a state legislator demonstrating he lacks the maturity and temperament to serve in his current office,” he added. “It seems that the fact that homeschooling parents are taxpayers and that in itself gives them the right to weigh-in on any bill – education policy or otherwise.”

The state teachers union supports passage. Jean Hessberg, a spokeswoman for the Iowa State Educational Association, said the union would oppose any provision requiring the school district to report anti-gay or transgender “bullying” to the victims' parents, since they may not know their children were having sex with members of the same sex or choosing to identify as members of the opposite sex.

The bill's supporters are a hybrid of Republicans and Democrats. Despite the strong political backing of Iowa Gov. Terry Branstad, a Republican, it has failed to pass the state legislature after numerous attempts. 


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: ddupdddown; gop; homeschool; homeschooling; homosexualagenda; moralabsolutes; publicschools
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To: wagglebee
"The proposal would allow school districts to monitor students outside of school hours"

So, kids could be followed in to their church Sunday school class and monitored regarding any statements they made, in a Christian context, regarding homosexuality, Islam, marriage or Christ being the exclusive door to salvation.

21 posted on 05/05/2015 6:48:22 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: wagglebee

> when they don’t use them themselves,”

No, they just pay for them.


23 posted on 05/05/2015 6:50:29 AM PDT by ArcadeQuarters ("Immigration Reform" is ballot stuffing)
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To: BenLurkin

Not only that. They are citizens — to whom the elected are supposed to accountable.????

Elected Officials accountable to the people?? you been drinking already this morning? The only people elected officials are accountable to are the Unions and Chamber of Commerce. got it.


25 posted on 05/05/2015 6:52:34 AM PDT by eyeamok
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To: MrB

Hereabouts when the local governments want higher taxes they raise the “fees.” We are paying water and garbage rates that are way more than required to provide water and garbage service. Every time commissioners talk about a need to raise taxes for something they hear back that raising taxes would imperil their jobs so the various authorities and agencies raise fees instead. The fees are supposed to be dedicated to the use for which they are ostensibly collected but I have found out that, as with federal trust funds, the money goes into a common pot, is in fact, general taxes for general use.


26 posted on 05/05/2015 6:55:46 AM PDT by arthurus (it's true!)
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To: wagglebee
“The proposal would allow school districts to monitor students outside of school hours and punish – or contact law enforcement officials and state bureaucratic agencies over – any communication it deems “bullying” – even if that behavior takes place inside a private residence or on social media. Some of these complaints may be filed without first notifying parents.”

If they can monitor kids outside of school, sounds like it does affect homeschoolers too.

The whole anti-bullying legislation is to get kids to accept homosexuality. No disagreement is allowed.

This is scary.

27 posted on 05/05/2015 6:58:08 AM PDT by FR_addict (Boehner needs to go!)
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To: Texas Eagle
What about you, Rep. Moorman?

Byrnes is the state rep. Moorman is the concerned citizen and taxpayer.

28 posted on 05/05/2015 7:00:02 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (A moderate Muslim will cut your throat. A radical Muslim will cut off your head.)
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To: wagglebee

[School administrators could accuse a child of bullying if any comment dealing with “sexual orientation” and “gender identity” ]

Wow, this is beyond Orwellian.


29 posted on 05/05/2015 7:01:00 AM PDT by DaxtonBrown (http://www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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To: EternalVigilance

Stupid spell-check. From now on I’m doing my own proofreading. Thanks for the correction.


30 posted on 05/05/2015 7:01:05 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: wagglebee
“Nothing worse than homeschool parents trying to tell us legislators how to run public schools when they don’t use them themselves,” State Rep. Byrnes wrote.

Let's follow that logic on a few other points:

  1. Nothing worse than tax consumers trying to tell us legislators how to allocate public expenditures when they don’t contribute anything themselves.
  2. Nothing worse than anti-war activists trying to tell us legislators how to vote on issues of defense when they don’t serve themselves.
  3. Nothing worse than anti-police activists trying to tell us legislators how to handle things in crime ridden neighborhoods when they don’t live there themselves.
  4. Nothing worse than environmental exteremists trying to tell us legislators how to protect predatory species like wolves and coyotes when they don’t live in areas or work in occupations impacted by them themselves.

    We could make quite a list, couldn't we?

    Plus the homeschoolers have more right to a say than any of the foregoing examples since they are taxed to pay for the public schools and impacted by the results.


31 posted on 05/05/2015 7:01:27 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: US Navy Vet

Byrnes was a big proponent of Newt Gingrich in 2012.


32 posted on 05/05/2015 7:01:42 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: wagglebee

Homeschool families still pay for government schools and this policy would potentially bring scrutiny by government school officials on to homeschool kids and families. I’d say a homeschool parent would have every right to voice an opinion on this matter.


33 posted on 05/05/2015 7:02:27 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Texas Eagle

Just didn’t want the gentleman’s name sullied. :-) You’re welcome.


34 posted on 05/05/2015 7:03:15 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (A moderate Muslim will cut your throat. A radical Muslim will cut off your head.)
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To: jjotto

Newty,(in MY opinion(I was a NEWTY Supporter in 2012 as well) was ALL BLOW, NO SHOW).


35 posted on 05/05/2015 7:04:07 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: wagglebee

Dear Rep. Byrnes,
We may not use public schools but we pay for them via property taxes, therefore we do have a vested interest in how they are run.
Kalee


36 posted on 05/05/2015 7:11:52 AM PDT by kalee
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To: arthurus

Just FYI, Rep. Byrnes is a public school teacher.


37 posted on 05/05/2015 7:13:21 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: wagglebee
“Nothing worse than homeschool parents....” State Rep. Byrnes wrote.

Really? Nothing worse?
Pathetic.

38 posted on 05/05/2015 7:13:58 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: wagglebee

http://www.iowahouserepublicans.com/members/josh-byrnes

Government web site for this hater. I expect Demon Rats to hate freedom....this RINO needs to be voted out of office.


39 posted on 05/05/2015 7:18:29 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: wagglebee

http://www.iowahouserepublicans.com/members/josh-byrnes

Government web site for this hater. I expect Demon Rats to hate freedom....this RINO needs to be voted out of office.


40 posted on 05/05/2015 7:19:25 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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