Posted on 05/02/2015 4:02:29 PM PDT by WilliamIII
On Monday, presidential hopeful Rand Paul had this to say to a group of Orthodox Jews in Brooklyn: "All the way back to the Iraq War, I think it was a mistake to topple [Saddam] Hussein." The Kentucky senator continued:
Hussein was the bulwark against Iran. The Sunnis didn't like the Shiites, now Iraq is a vassal state for Iran. I'm worried [Iran] is twice as strong as it was before the Iraq War. [Rand Paul]
I'm no dove. But I must admit: Rand Paul has a point.
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Isn’t Rand Paul the military expert that thought that our WWII style troop ships returning from Ebola related activities in Africa, would spread Ebola throughout the military?
He has some bizarre theories.
Largest bunch of BS I’ve looked at in a long time.
Hitler may have hammered the soviets.
I know most will disagree with me on this, but toppling the fifth (according to some Utube presentation I saw) worst dictator in the history of humanity was not a mistake.
Was it a mistake to topple Hitler? Was it a mistake to topple Japan? All three of the overthrows came at a high price to be certain. Pain, death, war, hell, broken families, broken bones, broken lives were the result and in that context is anything worth it?
The world is a better place with the Nazis and Imperial Japan gone and that’s how leaders have to look at things when they make decisions. The reason Germany and Japan were judged success is because we secured victory by occupying both countries for 15-20 years. We assured the jerks were out of power and that democracy took root and thrived before we pulled out. There was no history of democracy in Germany and the case was even worse in Japan.
In Iraq, we once again got our hard fought victory, but this time instead of securing the peace for 15-20 years...long enough for the bad guys to fade away and a generation trained in human rights to come of age...we bolted. This was our mistake. Ousting a madman and a tyrannical dictatorship was not.
We failed to do the one thing dad always taught us to do. We failed to finish the job. I’m ashamed for our country. Mostly I’m angry with the president who has turned his back on human rights in the middle East and seems content with replacing it with the worse ind of Islam,,,all in the name of peace.
Obama is a joke. The people who voted him in are simpletons. Most of our political class is spineless and un-principled.
The real mistake is sacrificing principals for peace because when you have no principals you also have no peace and that’s a fact.
The hanging was cathartic. I defy even Paul to say otherwise.
The proper choice is to win wars you start which we seem to be incapable of ever doing again
Really. This is upsetting in the depth of hi ignorance. Saddam was not one to be in power after the Gulf War. Bush, Sr.’s mistake to let him live after his invasion of Kuwait in a freaking UN “peace” agreement.
Fighting wars in middle-east with borrowed money from China, to protect oil flow to China is the kookiest mis-adventure.
Trillions of dollars added to debt, thousands of brave soldiers killed, tens of thousands maimed and disabled who are getting screwed by the VA, and Iran now in control of 2/3rds of Iraq.
Militant Islam gained a lot.
And let's not forget how the Iraqi muslims turned on each other and the U.S. the minute Saddam Hussein's boot was off their necks.
They didn't want peace, democracy and U.S. fast food joints - they wanted to settle 1,400 year old scores.
I agree with your post 17
Why don’t you complain to Obama.
we had a stable Iraq, democratic leaning, had educated middle class, ready to roll with their economy..we had a ‘BASE” IN THE MIDEAST, a “base against Iran”. Iraqis wanted us to stay ...
Then, Obama pulls out and we had a vacuum. End of story.
Guess we never should have toppled Hitler or Mussilini, or the Japanese emporer....that’s what you would say if we had immediately pulled out...Hey, 60 yrs later, we re still there!
Wrong! They were all moved to Syria. The facts are indisputable on this matter.
The American leftists, specifically those in the administration are responsible for Isis, the ascendance of Iran and the world being lit on fire, not W and the invasion.
that you and all the other fools on this thread don't understand who is at fault, i.e. the bamster, is sick beyond belief.
What a joke. Where are they now? France?
With that context now covered, consider the FACTS from no less an authority than Lieutenant General Moshe Yaalon, former Chief of Staff of the Israel Defense Force (IDF), the highest and most prestigious job in the Israeli military. Marshaling all of the data, General Yaalon states:
Saddam's WMD [were] moved to Syria some six weeks before the war [Operation Iraqi Freedom] began. He [Saddam Hussein] transferred the chemical agents from Iraq to Syria. No one went to Syria to find it.
Going to Iraq not not having a good sustained defense for going have given us Obama and ruined the GOP brand for a generation
We threw Saddam out, along with his sons. If Uday or Quesay had taken over, I am sure that we would have been attacked. With freedom, there is always going to be uncertainty. It does remain the best decision we have made in terms of strategy and there is no such thing as stability right away once a regime is thrown out.
I agree with you.
Even “kooks,” like the proverbial blind squirrel, get something good from time to time. We ignore this at our peril!
America in post war rebuilding only knows one thing: the democracy. That works great for a Germany or a Japan. It is hideously ineffective for an Iraq.
Should have made our own damn oil.
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