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Freddie Gray’s Knife – Why is Prosecutor Claiming Unlawful Arrest?
Legal Insurrection ^ | May 2, 2015 | Andrew Branca

Posted on 05/02/2015 10:14:52 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Is Prosecutor Mosby correct that Gray’s arrest was unlawful because knife was legal?

A new talking point claiming that Freddie Gray’s original arrest was unlawful has arisen, propelled by the claim yesterday by Prosecutor Mosby that the knife seized from Gray by police was legal to possess in Maryland.

As reported by the New York Times:

Ms. Mosby faulted the police conduct at every turn. The officers who arrested him “failed to establish probable cause for Mr. Gray’s arrest, as no crime had been committed,” she said, describing the arrest as illegal. Officers accused him of possession of a switchblade, but Ms. Mosby said, “The knife was not a switchblade and is lawful under Maryland law.”

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These statements are remarkably insensible coming from someone who has attained the position of state prosecutor.

Mosby Issue #1: Spring-Assisted Knives Almost Certainly ARE Illegal Under MD Law

First, it raises a question of whether Mosby is simply facially incorrect in claiming that Gray’s knife is legal. It has been described in news reports as “spring assisted.” If that description is explicitly false and there was no spring assist mechanism, then it is likely that Gray’s knife was not unlawful.

If, however, it was spring assisted than it certainly seems it would be unlawful under Maryland law.

The Criminal Code of Maryland, §4-105, defines a “switchblade knife” as:

(1) a knife or penknife having a blade that opens automatically by hand pressure applied to a button, spring, or other device in the handle of the knife.

The way a spring-assisted knife mechanism works is that a spring in the handle of the knife takes over the opening of the blade after the blade has been opened a small amount by pressure applied to the blade by the users fingers. Thus, the statutory definition would certainly seem to apply to spring-assisted knives.

Clearly, if a spring-assisted knife falls within the statutory prohibition, and it has been widely reported Gray’s knife was spring-assisted, possession of this unlawful knife would provide probable cause for Gray’s arrest.

It is notable that Mosby has yet to address this issue of the precise mechanism of Gray’s knife. This is an odd oversight, given that this issue would likely be determinative of her claim that the knife was not unlawful. For those unclear on the mechanistic differences an assisted-opening knife and a switchblade, the video below may be informative (the first knife is the assisted-opening, the second the switchblade):

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Mosby Issue #2: Jurisdictional Sloppiness

Second, Mosby’s statement reflects remarkable jurisdictional sloppiness, especially coming from a state prosecutor who works primarily in a subsidiary jurisdiction of that state. As noted above, Mosby is quoted as explicitly stating that:

The knife was not a switchblade and is lawful under Maryland law. (emphasis added)

The description of the charge brought against Gray explicitly provides that he

"did unlawfully carry, possess and sell a knife commonly known as a switch blade knife, with an automatic spring or other device for opening and/or closing the blade within the limits of Baltimore City. (emphasis added)

It is notable that it is not at all uncommon, particularly in “blue” cities, for those cities to have substantially more restrictive weapons laws than do surrounding urban areas. Anyone who has ever driven through the state of Maryland will have seen that there is a dramatic difference in social culture between inner-city Baltimore and the bucolic Maryland countryside.

Indeed, the City of Baltimore has adopted as an ordinance of its City Code §59-22, which states in relevant part:

Switch-blade knives. (a) Possession or sale, etc., prohibited. It shall be unlawful for any person to sell, carry, or possess any knife with an automatic spring. (emphasis added)

Thus (and again assuming Gray’s knife was spring-assisted, as widely reported), even if Mosby is correct (unlikely) that the knife was legal under Maryland state law, it would still arguably have been illegal under Baltimore code §59-22.

Mosby Issue #3: Weapons Possession Usually Illegal When on Probation

Third, it raises questions about whether the knife was illegal per se, or whether it was the possession of the knife by Freddie Gray that was illegal. Gray was a convicted felon, and an examination of his criminal record suggests it highly likely that he was on probation when he was arrested and found with the concealed knife. (Anybody with definitive information on Gray’s probation status, please contact me directly.)

In my experience, it is an invariable condition of probation that possession of a concealed weapon of any type is prohibited.

Note that the explicit language in the Statement of Charges reads that Freddie Gray

"did unlawfully carry, possess and sell a knife commonly known as a switch blade knife, with an automatic spring or other device for opening and/or closing the blade within the limits of Baltimore City. (emphasis added)

Thus if Gray was on probation, and his probation prohibited his possession of a concealed weapon, this unlawful possession would provide adequate probable cause for Gray’s arrest.

Mosby Issue #4: Misunderstanding How Probable Cause Actually Works

Mosby’s asserts that the police failed to establish probable cause for Gray’s arrest on the basis that she later determined Gray’s knife (the basis for the arrest) to have been legal. As reported by the New York Times, Mosby claims that the arresting officers:

"failed to establish probable cause for Mr. Gray’s arrest, as no crime had been committed."

This is simply not how probable cause works in the context of an arrest .

Here’s what probable cause does not mean: That the officer making an arrest has determined that the facts on which the arrest is founded are true to an absolute certainty, and that the arrest becomes illegal should these reasonably believed “facts” later turn out to be untrue or mistaken.

This should be self-evident by the inclusion of the word “probable” in the phrase “probable cause.”

Arrests often go uncharged, and charges are often dismissed, and defendants are even acquitted at trial, often based upon a later conclusion that the underlying facts which suggested a crime are untrue or mistaken. None of these outcomes makes the initial arrest illegal.

When an officer makes an arrest based on an articulable statement of probable cause, that arrest becomes illegal only if the officer knew or reasonably should have known that no crime had, in fact, been committed.

In short, police are entitled to make reasonable mistakes, and such a reasonable mistake does not make the arrest illegal.

Such a mistake may, of course, make further prosecution of the offense impractical or outright unjust. But that’s a completely different matter than whether an arrest was unlawful.

In the Gray instance, the arresting officer may in fact have been mistaken about whether a spring-assisted knife falls within the statutory prohibition on possession of a switchblade, or on whether Gray’s possession of the knife while (presumably) on probation was an offense subject to arrest.

But unless he actually knew or reasonably should have known either of those possibilities to be the case, legally-speaking probable cause for the arrest existed, and the arrest itself was not a crime.

Again, if the officer were mistaken the arrest may be defective for purposes of further prosecution. But this does not mean that an officer is limited to making an arrest only in circumstances where criminal conduct is a legal and moral certainty.

A society in which this were required, or permitted would be, I expect, a society that most Americans would find an unpleasant place to live.

Thus, even if it turns out that the knife was legal and that Freddie Gray were legally permitted to possess the knife under the circumstances, if the police officer reasonably believed that either of these were offenses subject to arrest, and neither knew or should have known that this belief was incorrect at the time of the arrest, then there existed probable cause for the arrest, and the arrest itself is entirely lawful from the context of that officer’s conduct.

The apparent political theater in the announcement of the charges is getting growing criticism, reminiscent of what accompanied the George Zimmerman over-charging and politicized prosecution. Alan Dershowitz on NewsMax:

(VIDEO-AT-LINK)


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: baltimore; blackkk; elijahcummings; freddiegray; freddiegrayknife; lawenforcement; lawfularrest; maryland
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m assuming this guy was a dirt bag. Even a dirt bag has the right to self defense. 2nd amendment does not qualify only guns.

The kicker is the one cop who is being charged with murder is black.


21 posted on 05/02/2015 10:29:34 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: FredZarguna

This all political to calm the rioters and anarchists by a corrupt prosecutor who should have told the mayor that the investigation should be done from an outside source and away from the city.


22 posted on 05/02/2015 10:29:48 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

IOW-You can beat the rap but you can’t beat the ride.


23 posted on 05/02/2015 10:30:00 AM PDT by dblshot (I am John Galt.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
This is exactly the point I was mulling over this morning. (I'm a lawyer.) A cop may stop a person who is acting suspiciously (who is, for example, running away), even if probable cause to arrest that person is not apparent at that point; and a cop may arrest that person upon reasonable belief that a crime has been committed. The cops are not held to a standard of perfection, with jail time as the penalty for a mistake made in good faith; if they were held to such a standard, then cops would be crazy to arrest anybody, and the chaos in our streets would be even worse than it is.

This political prosecution stinks to high heaven. Looking at the Zimmerman, Wilson and now this case, the rule of law no longer applies in this country if a mob of the right pigmentation demands a sacrifice.

24 posted on 05/02/2015 10:30:28 AM PDT by jumpingcholla34 (.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

My guess is that it was a one handed opening knife. Actual switch blades are pretty uncommon. I have watched people who practice with these very common non spring operated knives.

They can open them in the blink of an eye. Just as fast as a true switchblade. I have several of them and because of arthritis, I can’t do the quick opening but can see how it can be done.


25 posted on 05/02/2015 10:30:29 AM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Are ‘switchblade’ knives are as dangerous as ‘assault’ knives, or ‘automatic’ knives? /s....... Does Mayor Bloomberg want them banned?
26 posted on 05/02/2015 10:31:03 AM PDT by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: Parley Baer

same here there are too many to claim due to their agenda that the cops or Gray was guilty.

We have to wait for the facts in weeks and the case should not have been investigated by corrupt political hacks in Baltimore.


27 posted on 05/02/2015 10:31:21 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: jumpingcholla34

January 20, 2017.


28 posted on 05/02/2015 10:31:56 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Gray’s family contributed to that prosecutor’s election fund ...


29 posted on 05/02/2015 10:32:14 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( I Was Told Nobody Is Perfect But Yet, Here I Am ...)
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To: jumpingcholla34

Thank you for some sense


30 posted on 05/02/2015 10:32:20 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Vaquero

No, 3 out of 6 are black.


31 posted on 05/02/2015 10:32:42 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: jumpingcholla34
Question, what would the cops have arrested/detained Mr. Grey with if he didn't have a knife on him?

This was merely stop[chase down] and frisk?

32 posted on 05/02/2015 10:33:51 AM PDT by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: Clintonfatigued

You need to do a LOT more research on this case. The police, from what we’re seeing, did not go into the back of the van and beat this prisoner until he was fatally wounded. There’s a lot of threads here about this case.


33 posted on 05/02/2015 10:34:56 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: SkyDancer

The mayor stated next to Sharpton that she did not want an independent investigation from outsiders. She made political statements. She then passed it to the prosecutor which then has received thousands of dollars from Grays lawyer who then makes more political statement stating she is there for no justice no peace. She then charges the cops.

This all stinks to high heaven and the Dems are getting away with it.


34 posted on 05/02/2015 10:34:59 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Because she can. She is Nifong in drag.


35 posted on 05/02/2015 10:35:29 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: jumpingcholla34
Gleaned from interviews last night, Freddie was a snitch for the BPD. The anonymous officers interviewed on Fox said that he would put on a show for the street when they picked him up.

The alleged witness in the paddy wagon is also said to be a snitch.

EXPLOSIVE – The Curious Case Of Freddie Gray’s Paddy Wagon Companion – Baltimore Prosecutor, Marilyn Mosby, Manipulating The Media

36 posted on 05/02/2015 10:35:52 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The knife is irrelevant.
He had outstanding warrants.


37 posted on 05/02/2015 10:36:45 AM PDT by humblegunner (NOW with even more AWESOMENESS)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
One of the standards used to determine whether a knife is considered a deadly weapon is the length of the blade.

Although it varies by jurisdiction, generally, if the blade is over 3 inches it is considered a deadly weapon if carried concealed. There should be some stipulation in either the MD laws or the Baltimore City code.

Without knowing more about the knife (and the law there), it is impossible to say whether Gray possessing it was a violation of his probation--regardless of it being considered a "switchblade". The mere possession by Gray of any knife exceeding the statutory limits may be enough justification for the arrest.

38 posted on 05/02/2015 10:40:36 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: SkyDancer

He was also on her transition team taking office.


39 posted on 05/02/2015 10:41:32 AM PDT by QT3.14 ("What Washington Needs is Adult Supervision" - Zero, 2007 campaign)
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To: Oliviaforever

Gray was a convicted felon, so his RKBA rights were greatly circumscribed.


40 posted on 05/02/2015 10:43:47 AM PDT by FredZarguna (On your deathbed you will receive total consciousness. So I got that goin' for me.)
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