Posted on 05/02/2015 10:14:52 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Is Prosecutor Mosby correct that Grays arrest was unlawful because knife was legal?
A new talking point claiming that Freddie Grays original arrest was unlawful has arisen, propelled by the claim yesterday by Prosecutor Mosby that the knife seized from Gray by police was legal to possess in Maryland.
As reported by the New York Times:
Ms. Mosby faulted the police conduct at every turn. The officers who arrested him failed to establish probable cause for Mr. Grays arrest, as no crime had been committed, she said, describing the arrest as illegal. Officers accused him of possession of a switchblade, but Ms. Mosby said, The knife was not a switchblade and is lawful under Maryland law.
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These statements are remarkably insensible coming from someone who has attained the position of state prosecutor.
Mosby Issue #1: Spring-Assisted Knives Almost Certainly ARE Illegal Under MD Law
First, it raises a question of whether Mosby is simply facially incorrect in claiming that Grays knife is legal. It has been described in news reports as spring assisted. If that description is explicitly false and there was no spring assist mechanism, then it is likely that Grays knife was not unlawful.
If, however, it was spring assisted than it certainly seems it would be unlawful under Maryland law.
The Criminal Code of Maryland, §4-105, defines a switchblade knife as:
(1) a knife or penknife having a blade that opens automatically by hand pressure applied to a button, spring, or other device in the handle of the knife.
The way a spring-assisted knife mechanism works is that a spring in the handle of the knife takes over the opening of the blade after the blade has been opened a small amount by pressure applied to the blade by the users fingers. Thus, the statutory definition would certainly seem to apply to spring-assisted knives.
Clearly, if a spring-assisted knife falls within the statutory prohibition, and it has been widely reported Grays knife was spring-assisted, possession of this unlawful knife would provide probable cause for Grays arrest.
It is notable that Mosby has yet to address this issue of the precise mechanism of Grays knife. This is an odd oversight, given that this issue would likely be determinative of her claim that the knife was not unlawful. For those unclear on the mechanistic differences an assisted-opening knife and a switchblade, the video below may be informative (the first knife is the assisted-opening, the second the switchblade):
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Mosby Issue #2: Jurisdictional Sloppiness
Second, Mosbys statement reflects remarkable jurisdictional sloppiness, especially coming from a state prosecutor who works primarily in a subsidiary jurisdiction of that state. As noted above, Mosby is quoted as explicitly stating that:
The knife was not a switchblade and is lawful under Maryland law. (emphasis added)
The description of the charge brought against Gray explicitly provides that he
"did unlawfully carry, possess and sell a knife commonly known as a switch blade knife, with an automatic spring or other device for opening and/or closing the blade within the limits of Baltimore City. (emphasis added)
It is notable that it is not at all uncommon, particularly in blue cities, for those cities to have substantially more restrictive weapons laws than do surrounding urban areas. Anyone who has ever driven through the state of Maryland will have seen that there is a dramatic difference in social culture between inner-city Baltimore and the bucolic Maryland countryside.
Indeed, the City of Baltimore has adopted as an ordinance of its City Code §59-22, which states in relevant part:
Switch-blade knives. (a) Possession or sale, etc., prohibited. It shall be unlawful for any person to sell, carry, or possess any knife with an automatic spring. (emphasis added)
Thus (and again assuming Grays knife was spring-assisted, as widely reported), even if Mosby is correct (unlikely) that the knife was legal under Maryland state law, it would still arguably have been illegal under Baltimore code §59-22.
Mosby Issue #3: Weapons Possession Usually Illegal When on Probation
Third, it raises questions about whether the knife was illegal per se, or whether it was the possession of the knife by Freddie Gray that was illegal. Gray was a convicted felon, and an examination of his criminal record suggests it highly likely that he was on probation when he was arrested and found with the concealed knife. (Anybody with definitive information on Grays probation status, please contact me directly.)
In my experience, it is an invariable condition of probation that possession of a concealed weapon of any type is prohibited.
Note that the explicit language in the Statement of Charges reads that Freddie Gray
"did unlawfully carry, possess and sell a knife commonly known as a switch blade knife, with an automatic spring or other device for opening and/or closing the blade within the limits of Baltimore City. (emphasis added)
Thus if Gray was on probation, and his probation prohibited his possession of a concealed weapon, this unlawful possession would provide adequate probable cause for Grays arrest.
Mosby Issue #4: Misunderstanding How Probable Cause Actually Works
Mosbys asserts that the police failed to establish probable cause for Grays arrest on the basis that she later determined Grays knife (the basis for the arrest) to have been legal. As reported by the New York Times, Mosby claims that the arresting officers:
"failed to establish probable cause for Mr. Grays arrest, as no crime had been committed."
This is simply not how probable cause works in the context of an arrest .
Heres what probable cause does not mean: That the officer making an arrest has determined that the facts on which the arrest is founded are true to an absolute certainty, and that the arrest becomes illegal should these reasonably believed facts later turn out to be untrue or mistaken.
This should be self-evident by the inclusion of the word probable in the phrase probable cause.
Arrests often go uncharged, and charges are often dismissed, and defendants are even acquitted at trial, often based upon a later conclusion that the underlying facts which suggested a crime are untrue or mistaken. None of these outcomes makes the initial arrest illegal.
When an officer makes an arrest based on an articulable statement of probable cause, that arrest becomes illegal only if the officer knew or reasonably should have known that no crime had, in fact, been committed.
In short, police are entitled to make reasonable mistakes, and such a reasonable mistake does not make the arrest illegal.
Such a mistake may, of course, make further prosecution of the offense impractical or outright unjust. But thats a completely different matter than whether an arrest was unlawful.
In the Gray instance, the arresting officer may in fact have been mistaken about whether a spring-assisted knife falls within the statutory prohibition on possession of a switchblade, or on whether Grays possession of the knife while (presumably) on probation was an offense subject to arrest.
But unless he actually knew or reasonably should have known either of those possibilities to be the case, legally-speaking probable cause for the arrest existed, and the arrest itself was not a crime.
Again, if the officer were mistaken the arrest may be defective for purposes of further prosecution. But this does not mean that an officer is limited to making an arrest only in circumstances where criminal conduct is a legal and moral certainty.
A society in which this were required, or permitted would be, I expect, a society that most Americans would find an unpleasant place to live.
Thus, even if it turns out that the knife was legal and that Freddie Gray were legally permitted to possess the knife under the circumstances, if the police officer reasonably believed that either of these were offenses subject to arrest, and neither knew or should have known that this belief was incorrect at the time of the arrest, then there existed probable cause for the arrest, and the arrest itself is entirely lawful from the context of that officers conduct.
The apparent political theater in the announcement of the charges is getting growing criticism, reminiscent of what accompanied the George Zimmerman over-charging and politicized prosecution. Alan Dershowitz on NewsMax:
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I’m assuming this guy was a dirt bag. Even a dirt bag has the right to self defense. 2nd amendment does not qualify only guns.
The kicker is the one cop who is being charged with murder is black.
This all political to calm the rioters and anarchists by a corrupt prosecutor who should have told the mayor that the investigation should be done from an outside source and away from the city.
IOW-You can beat the rap but you can’t beat the ride.
This political prosecution stinks to high heaven. Looking at the Zimmerman, Wilson and now this case, the rule of law no longer applies in this country if a mob of the right pigmentation demands a sacrifice.
My guess is that it was a one handed opening knife. Actual switch blades are pretty uncommon. I have watched people who practice with these very common non spring operated knives.
They can open them in the blink of an eye. Just as fast as a true switchblade. I have several of them and because of arthritis, I can’t do the quick opening but can see how it can be done.
same here there are too many to claim due to their agenda that the cops or Gray was guilty.
We have to wait for the facts in weeks and the case should not have been investigated by corrupt political hacks in Baltimore.
January 20, 2017.
Gray’s family contributed to that prosecutor’s election fund ...
Thank you for some sense
No, 3 out of 6 are black.
This was merely stop[chase down] and frisk?
You need to do a LOT more research on this case. The police, from what we’re seeing, did not go into the back of the van and beat this prisoner until he was fatally wounded. There’s a lot of threads here about this case.
The mayor stated next to Sharpton that she did not want an independent investigation from outsiders. She made political statements. She then passed it to the prosecutor which then has received thousands of dollars from Grays lawyer who then makes more political statement stating she is there for no justice no peace. She then charges the cops.
This all stinks to high heaven and the Dems are getting away with it.
Because she can. She is Nifong in drag.
The alleged witness in the paddy wagon is also said to be a snitch.
The knife is irrelevant.
He had outstanding warrants.
Although it varies by jurisdiction, generally, if the blade is over 3 inches it is considered a deadly weapon if carried concealed. There should be some stipulation in either the MD laws or the Baltimore City code.
Without knowing more about the knife (and the law there), it is impossible to say whether Gray possessing it was a violation of his probation--regardless of it being considered a "switchblade". The mere possession by Gray of any knife exceeding the statutory limits may be enough justification for the arrest.
He was also on her transition team taking office.
Gray was a convicted felon, so his RKBA rights were greatly circumscribed.
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