Freddie Gray’s Knife – Why is Prosecutor Claiming Unlawful Arrest?

Legal Insurrection ^ | May 2, 2015 | Andrew Branca

[Vaquero]

I’m assuming this guy was a dirt bag. Even a dirt bag has the right to self defense. 2nd amendment does not qualify only guns.

The kicker is the one cop who is being charged with murder is black.

[manc]

This all political to calm the rioters and anarchists by a corrupt prosecutor who should have told the mayor that the investigation should be done from an outside source and away from the city.

[dblshot]

IOW-You can beat the rap but you can’t beat the ride.

[jumpingcholla34]

This is exactly the point I was mulling over this morning. (I'm a lawyer.) A cop may stop a person who is acting suspiciously (who is, for example, running away), even if probable cause to arrest that person is not apparent at that point; and a cop may arrest that person upon reasonable belief that a crime has been committed. The cops are not held to a standard of perfection, with jail time as the penalty for a mistake made in good faith; if they were held to such a standard, then cops would be crazy to arrest anybody, and the chaos in our streets would be even worse than it is.

This political prosecution stinks to high heaven. Looking at the Zimmerman, Wilson and now this case, the rule of law no longer applies in this country if a mob of the right pigmentation demands a sacrifice.

[yarddog]

My guess is that it was a one handed opening knife. Actual switch blades are pretty uncommon. I have watched people who practice with these very common non spring operated knives.

They can open them in the blink of an eye. Just as fast as a true switchblade. I have several of them and because of arthritis, I can’t do the quick opening but can see how it can be done.

[Theoria]

Are ‘switchblade’ knives are as dangerous as ‘assault’ knives, or ‘automatic’ knives? /s....... Does Mayor Bloomberg want them banned?

[manc]

same here there are too many to claim due to their agenda that the cops or Gray was guilty.

We have to wait for the facts in weeks and the case should not have been investigated by corrupt political hacks in Baltimore.

[2ndDivisionVet]

January 20, 2017.

[SkyDancer]

Gray’s family contributed to that prosecutor’s election fund ...

[manc]

Thank you for some sense

[2ndDivisionVet]

No, 3 out of 6 are black.

[Theoria]

Question, what would the cops have arrested/detained Mr. Grey with if he didn't have a knife on him?

This was merely stop[chase down] and frisk?

[2ndDivisionVet]

You need to do a LOT more research on this case. The police, from what we’re seeing, did not go into the back of the van and beat this prisoner until he was fatally wounded. There’s a lot of threads here about this case.

[manc]

The mayor stated next to Sharpton that she did not want an independent investigation from outsiders. She made political statements. She then passed it to the prosecutor which then has received thousands of dollars from Grays lawyer who then makes more political statement stating she is there for no justice no peace. She then charges the cops.

This all stinks to high heaven and the Dems are getting away with it.

[Nifster]

Because she can. She is Nifong in drag.

[don-o]

Gleaned from interviews last night, Freddie was a snitch for the BPD. The anonymous officers interviewed on Fox said that he would put on a show for the street when they picked him up.

The alleged witness in the paddy wagon is also said to be a snitch.

EXPLOSIVE – The Curious Case Of Freddie Gray’s Paddy Wagon Companion – Baltimore Prosecutor, Marilyn Mosby, Manipulating The Media

[humblegunner]

The knife is irrelevant.
He had outstanding warrants.

[Smokin' Joe]

One of the standards used to determine whether a knife is considered a deadly weapon is the length of the blade.

Although it varies by jurisdiction, generally, if the blade is over 3 inches it is considered a deadly weapon if carried concealed. There should be some stipulation in either the MD laws or the Baltimore City code.

Without knowing more about the knife (and the law there), it is impossible to say whether Gray possessing it was a violation of his probation--regardless of it being considered a "switchblade". The mere possession by Gray of any knife exceeding the statutory limits may be enough justification for the arrest.

[QT3.14]

He was also on her transition team taking office.

[FredZarguna]

Gray was a convicted felon, so his RKBA rights were greatly circumscribed.