Posted on 05/02/2015 10:14:52 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Is Prosecutor Mosby correct that Grays arrest was unlawful because knife was legal?
A new talking point claiming that Freddie Grays original arrest was unlawful has arisen, propelled by the claim yesterday by Prosecutor Mosby that the knife seized from Gray by police was legal to possess in Maryland.
As reported by the New York Times:
Ms. Mosby faulted the police conduct at every turn. The officers who arrested him failed to establish probable cause for Mr. Grays arrest, as no crime had been committed, she said, describing the arrest as illegal. Officers accused him of possession of a switchblade, but Ms. Mosby said, The knife was not a switchblade and is lawful under Maryland law.
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These statements are remarkably insensible coming from someone who has attained the position of state prosecutor.
Mosby Issue #1: Spring-Assisted Knives Almost Certainly ARE Illegal Under MD Law
First, it raises a question of whether Mosby is simply facially incorrect in claiming that Grays knife is legal. It has been described in news reports as spring assisted. If that description is explicitly false and there was no spring assist mechanism, then it is likely that Grays knife was not unlawful.
If, however, it was spring assisted than it certainly seems it would be unlawful under Maryland law.
The Criminal Code of Maryland, §4-105, defines a switchblade knife as:
(1) a knife or penknife having a blade that opens automatically by hand pressure applied to a button, spring, or other device in the handle of the knife.
The way a spring-assisted knife mechanism works is that a spring in the handle of the knife takes over the opening of the blade after the blade has been opened a small amount by pressure applied to the blade by the users fingers. Thus, the statutory definition would certainly seem to apply to spring-assisted knives.
Clearly, if a spring-assisted knife falls within the statutory prohibition, and it has been widely reported Grays knife was spring-assisted, possession of this unlawful knife would provide probable cause for Grays arrest.
It is notable that Mosby has yet to address this issue of the precise mechanism of Grays knife. This is an odd oversight, given that this issue would likely be determinative of her claim that the knife was not unlawful. For those unclear on the mechanistic differences an assisted-opening knife and a switchblade, the video below may be informative (the first knife is the assisted-opening, the second the switchblade):
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Mosby Issue #2: Jurisdictional Sloppiness
Second, Mosbys statement reflects remarkable jurisdictional sloppiness, especially coming from a state prosecutor who works primarily in a subsidiary jurisdiction of that state. As noted above, Mosby is quoted as explicitly stating that:
The knife was not a switchblade and is lawful under Maryland law. (emphasis added)
The description of the charge brought against Gray explicitly provides that he
"did unlawfully carry, possess and sell a knife commonly known as a switch blade knife, with an automatic spring or other device for opening and/or closing the blade within the limits of Baltimore City. (emphasis added)
It is notable that it is not at all uncommon, particularly in blue cities, for those cities to have substantially more restrictive weapons laws than do surrounding urban areas. Anyone who has ever driven through the state of Maryland will have seen that there is a dramatic difference in social culture between inner-city Baltimore and the bucolic Maryland countryside.
Indeed, the City of Baltimore has adopted as an ordinance of its City Code §59-22, which states in relevant part:
Switch-blade knives. (a) Possession or sale, etc., prohibited. It shall be unlawful for any person to sell, carry, or possess any knife with an automatic spring. (emphasis added)
Thus (and again assuming Grays knife was spring-assisted, as widely reported), even if Mosby is correct (unlikely) that the knife was legal under Maryland state law, it would still arguably have been illegal under Baltimore code §59-22.
Mosby Issue #3: Weapons Possession Usually Illegal When on Probation
Third, it raises questions about whether the knife was illegal per se, or whether it was the possession of the knife by Freddie Gray that was illegal. Gray was a convicted felon, and an examination of his criminal record suggests it highly likely that he was on probation when he was arrested and found with the concealed knife. (Anybody with definitive information on Grays probation status, please contact me directly.)
In my experience, it is an invariable condition of probation that possession of a concealed weapon of any type is prohibited.
Note that the explicit language in the Statement of Charges reads that Freddie Gray
"did unlawfully carry, possess and sell a knife commonly known as a switch blade knife, with an automatic spring or other device for opening and/or closing the blade within the limits of Baltimore City. (emphasis added)
Thus if Gray was on probation, and his probation prohibited his possession of a concealed weapon, this unlawful possession would provide adequate probable cause for Grays arrest.
Mosby Issue #4: Misunderstanding How Probable Cause Actually Works
Mosbys asserts that the police failed to establish probable cause for Grays arrest on the basis that she later determined Grays knife (the basis for the arrest) to have been legal. As reported by the New York Times, Mosby claims that the arresting officers:
"failed to establish probable cause for Mr. Grays arrest, as no crime had been committed."
This is simply not how probable cause works in the context of an arrest .
Heres what probable cause does not mean: That the officer making an arrest has determined that the facts on which the arrest is founded are true to an absolute certainty, and that the arrest becomes illegal should these reasonably believed facts later turn out to be untrue or mistaken.
This should be self-evident by the inclusion of the word probable in the phrase probable cause.
Arrests often go uncharged, and charges are often dismissed, and defendants are even acquitted at trial, often based upon a later conclusion that the underlying facts which suggested a crime are untrue or mistaken. None of these outcomes makes the initial arrest illegal.
When an officer makes an arrest based on an articulable statement of probable cause, that arrest becomes illegal only if the officer knew or reasonably should have known that no crime had, in fact, been committed.
In short, police are entitled to make reasonable mistakes, and such a reasonable mistake does not make the arrest illegal.
Such a mistake may, of course, make further prosecution of the offense impractical or outright unjust. But thats a completely different matter than whether an arrest was unlawful.
In the Gray instance, the arresting officer may in fact have been mistaken about whether a spring-assisted knife falls within the statutory prohibition on possession of a switchblade, or on whether Grays possession of the knife while (presumably) on probation was an offense subject to arrest.
But unless he actually knew or reasonably should have known either of those possibilities to be the case, legally-speaking probable cause for the arrest existed, and the arrest itself was not a crime.
Again, if the officer were mistaken the arrest may be defective for purposes of further prosecution. But this does not mean that an officer is limited to making an arrest only in circumstances where criminal conduct is a legal and moral certainty.
A society in which this were required, or permitted would be, I expect, a society that most Americans would find an unpleasant place to live.
Thus, even if it turns out that the knife was legal and that Freddie Gray were legally permitted to possess the knife under the circumstances, if the police officer reasonably believed that either of these were offenses subject to arrest, and neither knew or should have known that this belief was incorrect at the time of the arrest, then there existed probable cause for the arrest, and the arrest itself is entirely lawful from the context of that officers conduct.
The apparent political theater in the announcement of the charges is getting growing criticism, reminiscent of what accompanied the George Zimmerman over-charging and politicized prosecution. Alan Dershowitz on NewsMax:
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Only one charged with murder. The rest charged with various charges from manslaughter on down
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Baltimore Mayor, Stephanie Rawlings-Blake, ordered the police: to stand down LET THEM LOOT. IT S ONLY PROPERTY. We saw hell explode after the Black democratic mayor gave the thugs carte blanche to destroy the city. The police werent allowed to defend the city. More than 100 officers were injured, some seriously.
Why the Baltimore riots, looting and destruction of their own Black neighborhoods? Did the Blacks doubted for a moment that the Black establishment in control of Baltimore will fail to condemn the officers to the highest penalty allowed by Law? Four of the six accused officers are the ones charged with manslaughter. Of those 4, three are Blacks and one is White. Their heads will be presented to the mobs in a silver plate to placate the rabble of noisy angry thugs.
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therightpundit ^ | 4/29/15
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3284576/posts
Not holding back one bit. Milwaukee County Sheriff David Clarke says O is quietly enjoying whats going on in Baltimore because hes a promoter of division and has benefitted politically from dividing people.
Sheriff Clarke points out all the times President Obama has pitted one group of Americans against another. He also questions why Obama didnt come out and speak about the Baltimore riots earlier. He was interviewed here on the Mark Levin Show
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3284755/posts
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Milwaukee County Sheriff David Clarke (D) blasted failed liberal government policies for miring people in cities like Baltimore in generational poverty and argued that change in Baltimore needs to start in the politics, the failed liberal Democrat policies on Wednesdays Hannity on the Fox News Channel.
all this will will come out eventually which will lead to more rioting ...but they can’t claim racism ..
#1, I don’t think he had a “switchblade” at all. I won’t believe it until I see it, and am convinced of the chain of custody. Otherwise, I’m going to suspect a “drop knife” used to give credence to the bust.
And in general, I don’t think pro RKBA conservatives should ever go along with getting in the weeds on what constitutes an illegal knife. Sheesh. A knife. Good lord. You should see what I carry.
He was also out on bail for an upcoming drug trial.
apparently
So you are one of those people who cant follow legal analysis or think it unimportant. Bad criminals often get off on technicalities and we accept it. The DA shouldnt make the police criminals by lying about this technicality.
“I did but also read there were more warrants”
Well,
The Treehouse is covering everything very closely, and I’ve seen no mention of additional warrants. If you find a kink to them, please let me know?
Thanks,
Bogie
You misspelled “marital.” I see the word every time I pass the Marshal’s downtown office. There is a store across the street that sells “marital aids” for the deputies. SO THERE!
“Are you sure its not Martial Dillon?”
Did I misspell ‘Marshal’? Should it be Martial Law? I don’t mind being corrected. It’s one of the ways I learn.
Are you a convicted felon? Because it looks like Mr. Gray was.
It keep the fert in the garden shed complex along with some getaway Diesel.....
Frank Marshall Davis (no Bacon..) Law....
the citizens of Baltimore are going to pay dearly all around before this is over years from now. The lawyers will rejoice, the cops will be outraged and the family of Mr. Gray will be devastated with their loss.
All due,in my opinion to gross ineptitude and mismanagement of the administrative officials that run their jurisdiction.
Nobody wins here....nobody at all.
The state law definition of a switchblade is:
“a knife or a penknife having a blade that opens automatically by hand pressure applied to a button, spring, or other device in the handle of the knife, commonly called a switchblade knife or a switchblade penknife”
The Baltimore Muni Code definition is:
“any knife with an automatic spring or other device for opening and/or closing the blade, commonly known as a switch-blade knife.”
They both use the “other device” catchall, but the state law would require it to be in the handle, so you could argue the city’s version is less restrictive.
One other reason a municipality passes its own redundant version of a state law is because it isn’t satisfied with the way the county or state is prosecuting violations, and wants to be able to prosecute those cases itself. It may be a PITA to get the DA’s office to file on a simple possession case, but the City Attorney’s office is right down the hall.
So there’s his entire article....must be he was simply posting a portion of that as I read just a portion he posted in a comment section, or someone wrote on a site.
I agree with some of his writing on the matter though I don’t think it can apply to all....it really does matter they become educated...and move beyond the neighborhoods that will always bring them down.
Those I know wouldn’t think of living in those neighborhoods because they are sooo drug infested. So the sooner they can get they are out of them.
What are you talking about? You obviously have no clue. Tell me, how exactly, did they break the law? What should be the punishment?
Do you have a source for the warrants? I’m not doubting your word, I just hadn’t seen that before. If so, it sure puts a new light on things.
Thanks for that info on the definition of a switch blade. How did this idiot prosecutor get this so wrong? The charge of illegal imprisonment should be thrown out at the probable cause hearing.
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