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Texas Sends Poor Teens To Adult Jail For Skipping School
Buzzfeed ^ | 22 April 2015 | Kendall Taggart

Posted on 04/26/2015 11:38:12 AM PDT by Lorianne

More than a thousand Texas teenagers have been ordered to lockup on charges that stem from missing school, often because they have unpaid court fines. The costs to their education are high. Some, like Serena Vela, never go back.

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Don't send them to jail, just kick them out of school. They don't want to be there anyway and are just a drain on everyone who wants to be there.

Mandatory education should end after completion of eight grade or age 16, whichever comes first. K-8 should be enough time to educate people in the basic 3 subjects. After that, it should be voluntary to continue and receive free education.

Free education if not valued should not be forced on people who don't want it and usually only want to cause trouble for people who do want it.

This truancy jailing stuff is wrong. Just cut them loose

1 posted on 04/26/2015 11:38:12 AM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne

“This truancy jailing stuff is wrong.”

I agree. If anyone, it’s the parents who should be the ones to go to jail. Just my opinion, but the buck must stop with the parents, regardless of whether they ‘’are together’ or not.

Man up; woman up.


2 posted on 04/26/2015 11:48:39 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: Lorianne

Isn’t it money in the pockets of the company that owns the jails?


3 posted on 04/26/2015 11:49:15 AM PDT by Dallas59 (Only a fool stumbles on things behind him.)
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To: Lorianne

Fines are a ridiculous way to treat people. In California 1/6 of drivers have lost their license because they can’t pay fines. I know two people in Florida who have lost their licenses because of fines unrelated to driving. It plunged them into poverty, but we compensate by giving them welfare. Something is wrong with this.

My county has a budget item in the income column called “Code Enforcement Fines.” It’s half a million dollars. But, you might ask, happens if nobody violates the codes? The answer is there are so many that everybody is in violation of something 15 minutes a day. They need that money to feed the ever growing government.


4 posted on 04/26/2015 11:50:24 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: MichaelCorleone

Why even force people age 16 years and older to take part in a free service (education). If they don’t want it, then that’s their choice.

Someone is making money off of these kid’s butts being in their seats at public school, whether they are learning or not. And most likely they are causing mayhem in the schools that keeps others who do want to be there from learning. Who is benefitting from this insane agenda?

I had to put up with people in school who didn’t want to be there 30 years ago and I know it has not gotten any better since. Why are we requiring losers and troublemakers be in school where they just drag everyone else down?


5 posted on 04/26/2015 11:53:20 AM PDT by Lorianne (fed pork, bailouts, gone taxmoney)
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To: Lorianne

I hope Serena gets back into school soon. Meantime, “she may want to stay away from the Deep Dish Pizza”, to quote Chris Wallace.


6 posted on 04/26/2015 11:55:26 AM PDT by lee martell (The sa)
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To: MichaelCorleone
Nope. The parents rarely have anything to say about it.

No jail time for anyone. If they want out, let them out.

But no-one needs locked up over this.

For sure the kidz.

/johnny

7 posted on 04/26/2015 11:57:13 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: lee martell

Why? I would not want Serena in my school if she did not want to be there. And I wouldn’t want here there in my kid’s school if she did not want to be there.

People who don’t want to be in school are nothing but a drag on the education of those who do want to be there.


8 posted on 04/26/2015 11:57:18 AM PDT by Lorianne (fed pork, bailouts, gone taxmoney)
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To: MichaelCorleone

regardless of whether they ‘’are together’ or not
= = = = = = = = = =

Sadly for these kids, too often the parents are never around till the ‘kid’ is worth some money, be it in sports or more likely in cases like T Martin and M Brown. When dead and the reason ‘questionable’, the thug turns into a child and the parents are all of a sudden loving and concerned.

See recently where the citizens of Fairfax County VA were cheering that the County was ‘forced’ to pay restitution due to a wrongful death suit at the hands of one of the Police.

Maybe the ‘cheers’ would stop if the people realized just who was paying the ‘fine’ and even if insurance paid it, the money could still be put to better use.


9 posted on 04/26/2015 11:58:40 AM PDT by xrmusn ((6/98)A pessimist damns the wind, an optimist thinks it will change and a realist adjusts the sails.)
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To: Lorianne

Can’t have that. The purpose of government schools is to provided income to teachers union members so their dues can be shuttled to Democrats.


10 posted on 04/26/2015 12:06:59 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (If obama speaks and th<uere is no one the<ire to hear it, is it still a lie?)
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To: Lorianne

“Don’t send them to jail, just kick them out of school. They don’t want to be there anyway and are just a drain on everyone who wants to be there.”

I agree that sending the kids to jail is not the correct approach. The problem lies in the fact that most these kids don’t have a decent role model in their life, traditionally their parents. Once they are out of school at that young age, if they are not self motivated to enter the work force, most likely they’ll become an even worse drain on society, and without some sort of ‘come to Jesus’ moment, they may be a lifetime drain. That DOES seem to be the plan of those running our country right now anyway.


11 posted on 04/26/2015 12:10:26 PM PDT by Carthego delenda est
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To: Lorianne

“Why are we requiring losers and troublemakers be in school where they just drag everyone else down?”

No good reason. I’m not familiar with exactly how it works, but the schools get state money based in part on how many students show up each day.

But you’re absolutely right - it’s a real travesty that the kids who want to learn many times cannot because of a few. Why parents put up with it I have no idea. I certainly didn’t.


12 posted on 04/26/2015 12:11:44 PM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: Carthego delenda est

I don’t see that it makes much difference. If they don’t want to be in school you can’t really make them ... unless I guess if you jail them or their parents, but then what is that accomplishing?

Making them go to school when they quite obviously do not want to be there is only hurting those who do want to be there.


13 posted on 04/26/2015 12:14:45 PM PDT by Lorianne (fed pork, bailouts, gone taxmoney)
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I’m not sure, but I seem to recall that there used to be ‘special’ classes for the less than cooperative students so that they are not a disruption to the students trying to learn.


15 posted on 04/26/2015 12:20:01 PM PDT by Carthego delenda est
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To: MichaelCorleone

“This truancy jailing stuff is wrong.”

This “wunderkind” Texas is still just a bunch of backward-assed Neanderthals, particularly in the rural areas. I’m wondering to they still allow teachers to hit students?
No thanks!


16 posted on 04/26/2015 12:23:20 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: Carthego delenda est

That wasn’t the case when I was in school and it still wasn’t the case a few years ago when my child was briefly in public school.

And even if there were special classes, why? Can we make them learn by law? This just seems silly to me. If someone doesn’t want to learn you can’t make them. You’re just using up valuable public resources and tying up people’s time.


17 posted on 04/26/2015 12:25:17 PM PDT by Lorianne (fed pork, bailouts, gone taxmoney)
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To: Lorianne

Do you suppose you’re opening another can of worms?


18 posted on 04/26/2015 12:27:52 PM PDT by gogeo (If you are Tea Party, the eGOP does not want you.)
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To: JRandomFreeper
No jail time for anyone. If they want out, let them out.

Maybe. But that may severely shrink the time for proper indoctrination into only 9 years. K-8 and out? Most kids cannot have a social conscience, a proper sense of grievance, and a well developed sense of social justice by age 14. You let them out early and they may learn to think for themselves. That is something we cannot have.

19 posted on 04/26/2015 12:30:26 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: MichaelCorleone

I will disagree entirely.
There is no constitutional authority for compulsive education. Nor is there such authority in most state constitutions.

If you just have to have somebody behind bars I am okay with sending legislators and judges.


20 posted on 04/26/2015 12:41:31 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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