[af_vet_1981]

To which I've never answered "yes", not once, though you have repeatedly mis-stated my answers as meaning, "yes".

I have mistated nothing. I have simply interpreted your responses as you seek to justify Roosevelt at the expense of the Jews, which I find particularly shameful.

at some point the Ninth Commandment comes into play here. As a biblical scholar, you might want to refresh your memory on that one.

Indeed, as does the second greatest commandment and the parable of the Sheep and the Goats.

The Jews were refugees. Roosevelt did poorly to deny them refuge in the US. The Jews were forced to return to Europe where many of them died in the Holocaust. Those that England finally took (288 out of 908) survived. 620 Jews were forced to return to mainland Europe but the Netherlands, Belgium, and France took them rather than force them to return to Germany. Roosevelt took none. That month Germany invaded Poland. The Jewish refugees were trapped, although 87 managed to get out of Western Europe before it was invaded in 1940. Of the remaining Jews about half survived and half perished. Roosevelt had the choice to save them and turned his back on them. Another ship with Jewish refugees with 72 passengers was later allowed to find temporary refuge in the US Panama Canal Zone, and the US later admitted most of them.

[BroJoeK]

af_vet_1981: "I have mistated nothing.
I have simply interpreted your responses as you seek to justify Roosevelt at the expense of the Jews, which I find particularly shameful."

But the shame is all yours, FRiend, for violating the Ninth Commandment in falsely "interpreting" my words and falsely accusing President Roosevelt.
You should be ashamed of yourself, and you need to stop doing it.

To help you with that, I'll cite more details which come from the first book recommended above (post #52):

1. At the time of the St. Louis incident, the President was recovering from illness and did not participate in negotiations.
   However, some of his staff, especially Jews like Henry Morgenthau, did.

2. Before the St. Louis incident -- as personally negotiated by President Roosevelt and the Cuban leader Batista -- there was a steady stream of ships with Jewish passengers leaving German ports for Havana.

3. By the summer of 1939, the total number of Jewish refugees in Cuba was around 6,000.
   That means, seven or more shiploads up to the size of the St. Louis had arrived and off-loaded before the St. Louis incident in May 1939.

4. After the St. Louis incident, another 2,000 Jewish refugees (two or three more shiploads) from Germany landed and were admitted to Cuba, thanks to President Roosevelt's deal with Batista.

5. So, the question is: what happened to make the St. Louis different from all those other refugee ships?

6. The answer is: the crooks who ran Cuba saw an opportunity to feather their nests, and, in effect, raised the price of admission.

7. Negotiators, including Jewish members of President Roosevelt's staff, eventually arrived at a new price and some negotiators were willing to pay it.
   But the US chief negotiator, a Jew, was a non-government actor, Lawrence Berenson, president of the Cuban Chamber of Commerce in the United States.
   He was not willing to pay the half million additional dollars Cuba now demanded.

8. Barenson also rejected somewhat lower cost offers of asylum from the Dominican Republic and from Honduras.
   The US State Department also ruled out possible refuge in the Virgin Islands.
   As a result, the St. Louis and two smaller ships returned to Europe.

9. US Coast Guard cutters sent to escort the St. Louis while near American waters were sent by US Secretary of Treasury, Henry Morgenthau, solely out of concern for the passengers' welfare.

10. "As the St.Louis and two smaller refugee ships steamed back across the Atlantic, the Joint Distribution Committee and the Intergovernmental Committee on Refugees persuaded Belgium to agree to take in the passengers as a special case.
    Britain, France and the Netherlands followed; each took a share.
    Through Robert Pell, its representative with the Intergovernmental Committee on Refugees, the State Department facilitated the European solution, which satisfied Jewish leaders and sympathetic officials in the Roosevelt administration".

11. "Many of these homeless Jews found refuge in Western Europe preferable to Latin American alternatives to Cuba.
    As the St. Louis steamed back across the Atlantic, the passengers cabled Morris C. Troper, European head of the [Jewish] Joint Distribution Committee saying, 'Our gratitude is as immense as the ocean on which we are now floating.'

12. "After the settlement Berenson wrote, 'I am weary and tired, but am coming to rapidly.
    Thank God those sad refugees have landed in safe places.' "

13. In other words, the Jews who negotiated the St. Louis deal believed they had done a good job, under the circumstances.

14. The number of St. Louis passengers who eventually died in the Holocaust is now estimated at 227 out of 937 passengers, or 24%, a tragedy of epic proportions, but certainly not knowable to the Jews who negotiated the fate of those MS St. Louis passengers in June, 1939.

15. Roosevelt deserves credit for the 8,000 Jews who did land in Cuba, thanks to FDR's personal negotiations with Cuba's Batista.
    His administration, and the Jewish negotiators for him also deserve credit for the 683 St. Louis passengers who survived the Holocaust, in Europe.

16. 100% of the sole, complete & absolute moral responsibility for the Holocaust deaths of 227 St. Louis passengers (27%) belongs to one man, and his henchmen: Adolf Hitler.

And there is much more to this story, but at least now, good FRiend, you know the basic truth of this matter.
So open your Bible and read it, and you will learn that the Truth will set you free from your lies, your hatred and false accusations against people who don't deserve such abuse.

Have a great day!