[BroJoeK]

af_vet_1981: "I have mistated nothing.
I have simply interpreted your responses as you seek to justify Roosevelt at the expense of the Jews, which I find particularly shameful."

But the shame is all yours, FRiend, for violating the Ninth Commandment in falsely "interpreting" my words and falsely accusing President Roosevelt.
You should be ashamed of yourself, and you need to stop doing it.

To help you with that, I'll cite more details which come from the first book recommended above (post #52):

1. At the time of the St. Louis incident, the President was recovering from illness and did not participate in negotiations.
   However, some of his staff, especially Jews like Henry Morgenthau, did.

2. Before the St. Louis incident -- as personally negotiated by President Roosevelt and the Cuban leader Batista -- there was a steady stream of ships with Jewish passengers leaving German ports for Havana.

3. By the summer of 1939, the total number of Jewish refugees in Cuba was around 6,000.
   That means, seven or more shiploads up to the size of the St. Louis had arrived and off-loaded before the St. Louis incident in May 1939.

4. After the St. Louis incident, another 2,000 Jewish refugees (two or three more shiploads) from Germany landed and were admitted to Cuba, thanks to President Roosevelt's deal with Batista.

5. So, the question is: what happened to make the St. Louis different from all those other refugee ships?

6. The answer is: the crooks who ran Cuba saw an opportunity to feather their nests, and, in effect, raised the price of admission.

7. Negotiators, including Jewish members of President Roosevelt's staff, eventually arrived at a new price and some negotiators were willing to pay it.
   But the US chief negotiator, a Jew, was a non-government actor, Lawrence Berenson, president of the Cuban Chamber of Commerce in the United States.
   He was not willing to pay the half million additional dollars Cuba now demanded.

8. Barenson also rejected somewhat lower cost offers of asylum from the Dominican Republic and from Honduras.
   The US State Department also ruled out possible refuge in the Virgin Islands.
   As a result, the St. Louis and two smaller ships returned to Europe.

9. US Coast Guard cutters sent to escort the St. Louis while near American waters were sent by US Secretary of Treasury, Henry Morgenthau, solely out of concern for the passengers' welfare.

10. "As the St.Louis and two smaller refugee ships steamed back across the Atlantic, the Joint Distribution Committee and the Intergovernmental Committee on Refugees persuaded Belgium to agree to take in the passengers as a special case.
    Britain, France and the Netherlands followed; each took a share.
    Through Robert Pell, its representative with the Intergovernmental Committee on Refugees, the State Department facilitated the European solution, which satisfied Jewish leaders and sympathetic officials in the Roosevelt administration".

11. "Many of these homeless Jews found refuge in Western Europe preferable to Latin American alternatives to Cuba.
    As the St. Louis steamed back across the Atlantic, the passengers cabled Morris C. Troper, European head of the [Jewish] Joint Distribution Committee saying, 'Our gratitude is as immense as the ocean on which we are now floating.'

12. "After the settlement Berenson wrote, 'I am weary and tired, but am coming to rapidly.
    Thank God those sad refugees have landed in safe places.' "

13. In other words, the Jews who negotiated the St. Louis deal believed they had done a good job, under the circumstances.

14. The number of St. Louis passengers who eventually died in the Holocaust is now estimated at 227 out of 937 passengers, or 24%, a tragedy of epic proportions, but certainly not knowable to the Jews who negotiated the fate of those MS St. Louis passengers in June, 1939.

15. Roosevelt deserves credit for the 8,000 Jews who did land in Cuba, thanks to FDR's personal negotiations with Cuba's Batista.
    His administration, and the Jewish negotiators for him also deserve credit for the 683 St. Louis passengers who survived the Holocaust, in Europe.

16. 100% of the sole, complete & absolute moral responsibility for the Holocaust deaths of 227 St. Louis passengers (27%) belongs to one man, and his henchmen: Adolf Hitler.

And there is much more to this story, but at least now, good FRiend, you know the basic truth of this matter.
So open your Bible and read it, and you will learn that the Truth will set you free from your lies, your hatred and false accusations against people who don't deserve such abuse.

Have a great day!

[af_vet_1981]

So open your Bible and read it, and you will learn that the Truth will set you free from your lies, your hatred and false accusations against people who don't deserve such abuse.

Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him. Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD.

When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats: And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left. Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me. Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me. Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not. Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me. And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
Leviticus, Catholic chapter nineteen, Protestant verses seventeen to eighteen,
Matthew, Catholic chapter twenty five, Protestant verses thirty one to forty six,
as authorized, but not authored, by King James