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These Blue States Have Tried the Elizabeth Warren Model. Their Residents Are Fleeing.
dailysignal.com ^ | april 19, 2015 | stephen moore

Posted on 04/19/2015 7:09:31 PM PDT by lowbridge

Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren recently appeared on one of the late night talk shows, beating the class warfare drum and arguing for billions of dollars in new social programs paid for with higher taxes on millionaires and billionaires. In recent years, though, blue states such as California, Illinois, Delaware, Connecticut, Hawaii, Maryland and Minnesota adopted this very strategy, and they raised taxes on their wealthy residents. How did it work out? Almost all of these states lag behind the national average in growth of jobs and incomes.

So, if income redistribution policies are the solution to shrinking the gap between rich and poor, why do they fail so miserably in the states?

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; US: California; US: Connecticut; US: Delaware; US: Hawaii; US: Illinois; US: Maryland; US: Massachusetts; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: california; connecticut; delaware; elizabethwarren; fauxahontas; hawaii; illinois; lieawatha; maryland; massachusetts; minnesota; taxes
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To: lowbridge
So, if income redistribution policies are the solution to shrinking the gap between rich and poor, why do they fail so miserably in the states?

I beg to differ with the argument implied by that question. And, I have to agree with Elizabeth Warren.

Taxing the rich works wonders for income equality.

When those rich have their taxes increased, they tend to move out of those high-tax areas, thereby leaving a population composed of lower-income. After a while, the population of those areas start seeing income equality, because the rich will have left, and what's left is the lower-wage and lower income people. Thus, they all start looking kind of equal in their poverty, because, once the rich and well-off have left, there won't be anybody creating companies and/or creating jobs.

Income parity will have been reached. And, that's the dream of Warren and all liberals; to have everybody equally poor and dependent on government for most or all of their needs. But, those needs won't be met when there won't be companies and jobs producing income, and income is where taxes come from, and without those taxes, there wont be any programs to depend on by those in the dependent society.

But, unfortunately, the poor also tend to follow the rich, no matter where the rich go, and so, we end up with the liberal messes creating havoc everywhere.
21 posted on 04/19/2015 8:17:41 PM PDT by adorno (a)
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To: lowbridge; All
The only “social spending” program that the states have ever delegated to the feds, expressly via the Constitution, the specific power to regulate, tax and spend for is the US Mail Service (1.8.7).

So Constitution-ignoring Sen. Elizabeth Warren is another good example why the ill conceived 17th Amendment should have never been ratified, state lawmakers foolishly giving up their voices in Congress by doing so.

On a related note, consider that one consequence of the parents of rich people not making sure that their children are being taught about the federal government’s limited powers is this. Rich people are clueless about dragging misguided lawmakers like Senator Warren in front of the Supreme Court and claiming the Supreme Court case precedent that the feds are prohibited from laying taxes in the name of state power issues, essentially any issue which Congress cannot justify under its constitutional Article I, Section 8-limited powers.

“Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States.” —Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.

The problem is that low-information rich people go home after voting for their favorite federal senators and watch football, oblivious to the major problem that their corrupt senators are working in cahoots with the corrupt House to pass vote-winning bills to establish unconstitutional social spending programs.

The Founding States had expected senators to protect their states by killing unconstitutional House appropriations bills.

The 17th Amendment needs to disappear.

22 posted on 04/19/2015 8:18:50 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: matt04

No...not just buses.....light rail to move wealthy people around...buses are for the huddled masses.


23 posted on 04/19/2015 8:35:57 PM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (Hope the holland tunnel gets the makeover I suggested.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Mastador1

Are you kidding, many illegals and their families and friends are involved in drugs cartels. They buy up entire businesses, nice homes etc.

The cartels can only buy so many high end flashy cars, planes and 10 million dollar homes. They have to do something with all the cash.

Businesses all over LA are purchased by them through their relatives. Happens all the time.


24 posted on 04/19/2015 8:42:17 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And don’t forget all the foreigners/Muslims with cash rolling in buying everything in sight. Same exact thing happened in CA. Big money there, if that’s what ya like. Mid-Easterners nearly run Beverly Hills...Brentwood and on and on.

BTW, this is going on in every state, everywhere.


25 posted on 04/19/2015 8:51:52 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: lowbridge
So, if income redistribution policies are the solution to shrinking the gap between rich and poor, why do they fail so miserably in the states?"

Because, on any number line, 0 is always zero, but the richest 1% keeps getting more. So, my math challenged useful liberals, there will always be increasing income inequality, except in times of war, communist confiscation, or alien invasion - the green kind, not the illegal kind.
26 posted on 04/19/2015 8:59:36 PM PDT by Darteaus94025 (Can't have a Liberal without a Lie)
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To: dragnet2

Are you serious? Did you actually read what I wrote? Did anyone?


27 posted on 04/19/2015 9:20:47 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Mastador1

I wasn’t responding to what you wrote. #24 was a direct response to the other poster at #5 as the numbers clearly indicate.


28 posted on 04/19/2015 9:53:35 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: lowbridge

We know liberalism doesn’t work. But it is coming to dominate US government. This is why the die is cast for America’s irreversible decline and fall. Sucks to be living it. I thank God daily that I wash not born later to see the worst of it, but hopefully will be long dead when the worst comes.


29 posted on 04/19/2015 10:55:40 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Lord God help us.)
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To: depressed in 06

You mean the state of Los Angeles would no longer be able to dump their felons on other cities? This might be a plan to look into.


30 posted on 04/19/2015 11:50:57 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All
Illegals can afford $300,000 or more?

A quick calculation online, at current 30 year mortgage rates for a $300,000 mortgage with nothing down, equals about $1,600 a month, plus property taxes and insurance.

If illegals are given preferential approvals for loans (which I would expect from the O Regime), then I'm thinking it's probably doable.

They could probably turn around and rent out a property like that for $2k a month. And yes, Section 8 pays that much and more for "qualified" tenants.

31 posted on 04/20/2015 3:00:38 AM PDT by ChicagahAl (Today's Democrats are much more Fascist than Communist; but Sen Joe McCarthy was still right.)
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To: lowbridge

Compounding the issue here in Connecticut is the brain-damaged, village idiot serving as governor.


32 posted on 04/20/2015 3:06:27 AM PDT by muir_redwoods ("He is a very shallow critic who cannot see an eternal rebel in the heart of a conservative." G.K .C)
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To: Still Thinking

it will be wall to wall very soon.


33 posted on 04/20/2015 6:27:37 AM PDT by kvanbrunt2 (civil law: commanding what is right and prohibiting what is wrong Blackstone Commentaries I p44)
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To: TBP

i missed that and he is a pubbie. might go visit again.


34 posted on 04/20/2015 6:30:19 AM PDT by kvanbrunt2 (civil law: commanding what is right and prohibiting what is wrong Blackstone Commentaries I p44)
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To: kvanbrunt2

We’d love to hvae you come.

Maryland must be a great state if the Dhimmicraps hven’t managed to destroy it.


35 posted on 04/20/2015 7:25:18 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: lowbridge

Citizens of a certain age expect to be drafted to fight for all citizens, if needed. Should citizens of a certain income be expected to support all citizens, if needed? Is this a Christian country or what? Are we our brother’s keeper?


36 posted on 04/21/2015 12:47:23 PM PDT by ex-snook (To conquer use Jesus, not bombs.)
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To: TBP

maryland is a great state. great sporting clays in the country areas. lots of sailing in the bay. the dems own the spot just east of ground zero.


37 posted on 04/26/2015 12:02:01 AM PDT by kvanbrunt2 (civil law: commanding what is right and prohibiting what is wrong Blackstone Commentaries I p44)
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