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Marco Rubio: Being Gay Is Not a Choice
Newsmax ^ | Sunday, 19 Apr 2015

Posted on 04/19/2015 12:03:07 PM PDT by SoConPubbie

Republican presidential candidate Marco Rubio says he does not believe sexual orientation is a choice for the "enormous majority of people."

The Florida senator's comments came Sunday on CBS's Face the Nation, where he said that it should be up to states rather than the Supreme Court to define marriage and that he considers marriage to be between a man and a woman. 

"I also don't believe that your sexual preferences are a choice for the vast and enormous majority of people. In fact, the bottom line is, I believe that sexual preference is something people are born with," Rubio said. 

He and other Republican presidential hopefuls have faced questions in recent days about their positions on same-sex marriage as the nation's top court prepares for what is expected to be a broad ruling on the constitutionality of the issue in June.

Americans support the right of same-sex couples to wed, 55 percent to 42 percent, according to a Gallup poll in May 2014, reflecting sweeping movement in public opinion over nearly two decades. Republican support has also grown, but stands at just 30 percent, according to the poll.

In an interview with Fusion published Wednesday, Rubio said he would attend a same-sex wedding.

“If it’s somebody in my life that I care for, of course I would,” he said. “I’m not going to hurt them simply because I disagree with a choice they’ve made or because I disagree with a decision they’ve made, or whatever it may be."

Texas Senator Ted Cruz said he has never had to make such a decision, dodging the question. Former Pennsylvania Senator Rick Santorum, who has not announced a campaign yet, said he would not attend such a wedding.

Ohio Governor John Kasich, another possible candidate, said he and his wife had been invited to a same-sex wedding and plan to attend, CNN reported Saturday.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida; US: Indiana
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To: House Atreides

He was in touch with his feeeeeeeeeeeeelings.


21 posted on 04/19/2015 12:17:53 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: manc

Hola Marco! When you find yourself in a hole, at least stop digging!!


22 posted on 04/19/2015 12:17:56 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("O Muslim! My bullets are dipped in pig grease.")
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To: SoConPubbie

If it’s not a choice then how come so many headlines on the front of gay publications deal with seducing heterosexual men?

If homosexual themselves believed it was not a choice wouldn’t all those sorts of articles go away?


23 posted on 04/19/2015 12:18:32 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Why do you think they call it “sexual preference”?


I’ve heard the liberals have gotten away from calling it “sexual preference” and now use “sexual orientation”.

Reason for this, is that the word “preference” implies that a person made a choice to be a homosexual. But the current liberal view is that homosexuality is not a choice, so the word “preference” had to be replaced by “orientation”, as “orientation” is not implying a choice was made.


24 posted on 04/19/2015 12:18:32 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: xzins
Marco Rubio is getting dangerous. He is pandering.

I don't mind a little pandering now and then, but a smart candidate will at least pander to the right people. He's pandering to Democrats.

25 posted on 04/19/2015 12:19:25 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: SoConPubbie

...”enormous majority of people”...

Interesting adjective to modify the word “majority”. Guess that leaves room for a couple four or five folks that just choose to be homosexual and/or engage in such practices.


26 posted on 04/19/2015 12:19:47 PM PDT by downtownconservative (Mohamed was a tranny)
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To: manc
From NARTH (Nat'l Assoc Research Therapy for Homosexuality) Sexual Orientation Fixed at Birth?">

from "Born that way" theory

Is Sexual Orientation Fixed at Birth?

The best overall summary of most respected researchers is that homosexuality (like most other psychological conditions) is due to a combination of social, biological, and psychological factors.

Following are quotes from researchers in the field:

(1) From Dr. Dean Hamer, the "gay gene" researcher, and himself a gay man:

"Genes are hardware...the data of life's experiences are processed through the sexual software into the circuits of identity. I suspect the sexual software is a mixture of both genes and environment, in much the same way the software of a computer is a mixture of what's installed at the factory and what's added by the user."
--P. Copeland and D. Hamer (1994) The Science of Desire. New York: Simon and Schuster.


(2) From psychiatrist Jeffrey Satinover, M.D.:

"Like all complex behavioral and mental states, homosexuality is...neither exclusively biological nor exclusively psychological, but results from an as-yet-difficult-to-quantitate mixture of genetic factors, intrauterine influences...postnatal environment (such as parent, sibling and cultural behavior), and a complex series of repeatedly reinforced choices occurring at critical phases of development."
--J. Satinover, M.D., Homosexuality and the Politics of Truth (1996). Grand Rapids, MI: Baker Books.


(3) When "gay gene" researcher Dr. Dean Hamer was asked if homosexuality was rooted solely in biology, he replied:

"Absolutely not. From twin studies, we already know that half or more of the variability in sexual orientation is not inherited. Our studies try to pinpoint the genetic factors...not negate the psychosocial factors."
--"New Evidence of a 'Gay Gene'," by Anastasia Toufexis, Time, November 13, 1995, vol. 146, Issue 20, p. 95.


(4) William Byne, a psychiatrist with a doctorate in biology, and Bruce Parsons (1993) carefully analyzed all the major biological studies of homosexuality. They found none that definitively supported a biological theory of causation. --W. Byne and B. Parsons, "Human Sexual Orientation: The Biologic Theories Reappraised." Archives of General Psychiatry 50, no.3.)


(5) Psychiatrists Friedman and Downey state that "a biopsychosocial model" best fits our knowledge of causation, with various combinations of temperament and environmental events leading to homosexuality. They say:

"Despite recent neurobiological findings suggesting homosexuality is genetically-biologically determined, credible evidence is lacking for a biological model of homosexuality."
--R. Friedman, M.D. and J. Downey, M.D., Journal of Neuropsychiatry, vol. 5, No. 2, Spring l993.


(6) From sociologist Steven Goldberg, Ph.D.:

"Virtually all of the evidence argues against there being a determinative physiological causal factor and I know of no researcher who believes that such a determinative factor exists...such factors play a predisposing, not a determinative role...I know of no one in the field who argues that homosexuality can be explained without reference to environmental factors."
Goldberg adds:
"Gay criticism has not addressed the classic family configuration"; it has merely "asserted away the considerable evidence" for the existence of family factors. Studies which attempt to disprove the existence of the classic family pattern in homosexuality are "convincing only to those with a need to believe."
--S. Goldberg (1994) When Wish Replaces Thought: Why So Much of What You Believe is False. Buffalo, New York: Prometheus Books.


(7) An article on genes and behavior in Science magazine says:

"...the interaction of genes and environment is much more complicated than the simple "violence genes" and intelligence genes" touted in the popular press. Indeed, renewed appreciation of environmental factors is one of the chief effects of the increased belief in genetics' effects on behavior. The same data that show the effects of genes also point to the enormous influence of non-genetic factors."
--C. Mann, "Genes and behavior," Science 264:1687 (1994), pp. 1686-1689.


(8) Among Jeffrey Satinover's conclusions in "The Gay Gene":

"(1) There is a genetic component to homosexuality, but 'component' is just a loose way of indicating genetic associations and linkages. 'Linkage' and 'association' do not mean 'causation.'

(2) There is no evidence that shows that homosexuality is genetic--and none of the research itself claims there is. Only the press and certain researchers do, when speaking in sound bites to the public."

--Jeffrey Satinover, M.D., The Journal of Human Sexuality, 1996, p.8.


(9) Says brain researcher Dr. Simon LeVay:

"At this point, the most widely held opinion [on causation of homosexuality] is that multiple factors play a role.

"In 1988, PFLAG member Tinkle Hake surveyed a number of well-known figures in the field about their views on homosexuality. She asked: 'Many observers believe that a person's sexual orientation is determined by one of more of the following factors: genetic, hormonal, psychological, or social. Based on today's state-of-the-art-science, what is your opinion?'

"The answers included the following: 'all of the above in concert' (Alan Bell), 'all of these variables' (Richard Green), 'multiple factors' (Gilbert Herdt), 'a combination of all the factors named' (Evelyn Hooker), 'all of these factors' (Judd Marmor), 'a combination of causes' (Richard Pillard), 'possibly genetic and hormonal, but juvenile sexual rehearsal play is particularly important' (John Money), and 'genetic and hormonal factors, and perhaps also some early childhood experiences' (James Weinrich)." (Page 273)

--Simon LeVay (1996), in Queer Science, published by MIT Press.


(10) The American Psychological Association says:

"Various theories have proposed differing sources for sexual orientation...However, many scientists share the view that sexual orientation is shaped for most people at an early age through complex interactions of biological, psychological and social factors."
--From the A.P.A.'s booklet, "Answers to Your Questions About Sexual Orientation and Homosexuality"


(11) The national organization P-FLAG ("Parents and Friends of Lesbians and Gays") offers a booklet prepared with the assistance of Dr. Clinton Anderson of the American Psychological Association. Entitled, "Why Ask Why? Addressing the Research on Homosexuality and Biology," the pamphlet says:

"To date, no researcher has claimed that genes can determine sexual orientation. At best, researchers believe that there may be a genetic component. No human behavior, let alone sexual behavior, has been connected to genetic markers to date...sexuality, like every other behavior, is undoubtedly influenced by both biological and societal factors."

27 posted on 04/19/2015 12:20:27 PM PDT by xzins (Donate to the Freep-a-Thon or lose your ONLY voice. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SoConPubbie

So, you’re saying that people are unable to choose their sexual partners? Their genetics tell them who they must go to bed with?

Not buying it.


28 posted on 04/19/2015 12:22:15 PM PDT by struggle
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To: DoughtyOne
You're right, Marco is wrong, and he'll say ANYTHING to con people into voting for him/gain power.

First amnesty and now this!

29 posted on 04/19/2015 12:23:12 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Basketball Orientation:

Father tall, mother tall, baby probably tall

tall kids get recruited to play basketball, invited to play basketball, threatened if they don’t play basketball.

Some dumb PhD comes along and decides there is a ‘basketball gene’. Why? Basketball isn’t a ‘choice’ for them.

Dumb. Dumb. Dumb.


30 posted on 04/19/2015 12:24:43 PM PDT by xzins (Donate to the Freep-a-Thon or lose your ONLY voice. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Hadn’t heart that one, but it’s sure fitting, isn’t it.


31 posted on 04/19/2015 12:25:35 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (The question, Jeb Bush? The answer: NO! Rove, is a devious propagandist & enemy of Conservatives!)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
the current liberal view is that homosexuality is not a choice

No, it's a mental disorder, caused by being raped at an early age by some wild-eyed slathering pederast.

32 posted on 04/19/2015 12:25:48 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: EnquiringMind

Maybe he watched a gay family member develop from birth, onward. I did, and guess what? I know.


No you don’t.. you have an opinion...


33 posted on 04/19/2015 12:27:05 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: SoConPubbie

So is Rubio saying that fags have no volition? Is he making a statement of neurology, biology, philosophy or ethics? If a “gay” person orders fabulous curtains in chartreuse is it a choice.


34 posted on 04/19/2015 12:27:10 PM PDT by DaveyB (Live free or die!)
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To: nopardons

Thank you.


35 posted on 04/19/2015 12:27:10 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (The question, Jeb Bush? The answer: NO! Rove, is a devious propagandist & enemy of Conservatives!)
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To: House Atreides
And he “knows” this....how?

His mentor schooled him.


36 posted on 04/19/2015 12:28:57 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'll vote for Jeb when Terri Schiavo endorses him.)
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To: EnquiringMind

See post #27


37 posted on 04/19/2015 12:29:54 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie

Tell Marco that voting definitely IS still a choice.

Cruz 2016


38 posted on 04/19/2015 12:30:08 PM PDT by right way right
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To: xzins
Marco Rubio is getting dangerous. He is pandering.

I think the GOPe is setting us up for a Bush/Rubio ticket in '16.

39 posted on 04/19/2015 12:31:11 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'll vote for Jeb when Terri Schiavo endorses him.)
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To: SoConPubbie

Well, one more name to cross off the list...


40 posted on 04/19/2015 12:31:34 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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