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This evangelist asked a gay bakery to make a traditional marriage cake. Now he may face charges.
LifeSiteNews ^ | 4/9/15 | Kirsten Andersen

Posted on 04/10/2015 12:33:57 PM PDT by wagglebee

April 9, 2015 (LifeSiteNews.com) – Joshua Feuerstein was just trying to make a point. Now, he may face legal action, as a bakery that refused to provide him with a cake opposing same-sex “marriage” threatens to sue him for taking their conversation public. The bakery owner is also threatening to press charges related to the recording of the phone call.

In the wake of heated national debate over whether business owners should have the right to refuse to participate in same-sex “weddings” that violate their religious beliefs, Feuerstein, an internet evangelist, decided to see if pro-gay business owners would give him the same deference as a Christian that homosexual activists are demanding Christian business owners give to same-sex couples, even if they disagreed with his worldview.

He made a tape of himself calling Florida-based bakery “Cut the Cake” and asking them to make a cake decorated with the words, “We do not support gay marriage.” As Feuerstein expected, the bakery – which calls itself LGBT-friendly and advertises same-sex “wedding” services in gay publications – refused and hung up the phone.

"We wanted to see if a pro-LGBT bakery would bake a cake for something that it was opposed to what they believed in,” Feuerstein told Florida’s WESH 2 News, “and you know what, I actually believe that Cut the Cake has every right as an American to refuse to print that on a cake.”

Feuerstein posted video of the phone call to YouTube with commentary explaining his position. “Cut the Cake[‘s owner]…refuses to make an anti-gay ‘marriage’ cake, so it obviously violates her principles, and so she doesn’t feel like she should be forced to make the cake,” Feuerstein said in the video. “And yet…there’s all of this hoopla going around because Christian bakeries think that they shouldn’t be forced.”

“Look, this is not about discrimination,” Feuerstein said. “This is about them having the freedom.”

But Cut the Cake’s owner, Sharon Haller, didn’t appreciate being made an example of by Feuerstein. She claims that as soon as Feuerstein’s video was posted, she began receiving dozens of phone calls from his fans and followers placing “fake orders” and telling her and the rest of her bakery staff to “kill ourselves.”

"I'm just afraid because of the type of calls that we were getting that someone is going to attack me in my home," Haller told News 13.

Feuerstein took down his video as soon as he became aware that Haller was receiving harassing phone calls. "I never asked people to call, be hateful or boycott them," Feuerstein told WKMG 6.

But Haller quickly reposted the video to YouTube, along with a description classifying Feuerstein’s phone call as an “attack.” She asked people to “put a stop to people like Joshua Feuerstein” by donating to her GoFundMe page, which has raised more than $14,000.

Haller is also threatening to press charges, saying Feuerstein’s recording of the phone call without her consent violates Florida law. She has reached out to the FBI and is considering pursuing a criminal case.

The fiasco echoes similar cases making news around the nation, as cake shops have become the front line battleground in the culture war over the definition of marriage.

In December, blogger Theodore Shoebat recorded himself calling 13 “pro-gay” bakeries to ask if they would make a cake with the words “Gay marriage is wrong.” Shoebat says all 13 bakeries refused to cooperate. Some simply hung up the phone as soon as he made his request. Others called him names and used obscenities when confronted by Shoebat over the perceived double-standard. Shoebat contrasted his own experience with that of a baker in Ireland who suffered “tremendous loss to his business” after resisting attempts by gay activists and the Irish state to force him to create a cake featuring the words “Support Gay Marriage.”

“Christian bakeries that refuse to make pro-homosexual marriage cakes are getting sued left, right, and center,” Shoebat wrote in a blog post explaining the motivation behind his videos, which he called a “social experiment.” “They get fined, they get death threats, and they lose their businesses. This experiment proves beyond doubt that the gay agenda is not just about their freedom to practice a sexual orientation, but the suppression of free speech,” he said.

Last year, Bill Jack filed a discrimination complaint against Denver’s Azucar Bakery, claiming the owner violated his religious rights by refusing to decorate Bible-shaped cakes with the words “God hates sin. Psalm 45:7" and "Homosexuality is a detestable sin. Leviticus 18:22.” He also wanted one cake to feature an image of two men holding hands in front of a cross with a red “X” overlaid on the image.

The Colorado Civil Rights Commission rejected Jack’s claim early this week, ruling that the bakery owner rejected his message because it violated an established policy of refusing to decorate cakes with "derogatory language and imagery,” not because of his faith.

The heightened controversy over wedding cakes comes as several states are debating Religious Freedom Restoration Acts (RFRAs) to protect religious business owners’ right to refuse to provide goods and services that violate their deeply held beliefs. Homosexual activists have decried such laws, claiming they will be used as an excuse for people to discriminate against gays.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Florida; US: Indiana; US: Texas
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To: wagglebee
The left will NEVER understand the principle behind this

Oh, they understand all right. It's about destroying Christianity and gaining power, not about freedom. They don't want freedom, so they will feel no shame in destroying it. This is spiritual warfare, nothing more or less.

61 posted on 04/10/2015 6:28:44 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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To: mdmathis6

That sounds reasonable. Thanks for the mention.

Looks like our guy will skate then for sure. Good.


62 posted on 04/10/2015 6:34:35 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (The question, Jeb Bush? The answer: NO! Rove, is a devious propagandist & enemy of Conservatives!)
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To: Bob

Bob, that’s obviously a reasoned point. I’m taking the reporters report on face value. If he’s got his facts wrong, that’s good for the guy on our side.


63 posted on 04/10/2015 6:38:53 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (The question, Jeb Bush? The answer: NO! Rove, is a devious propagandist & enemy of Conservatives!)
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To: wagglebee

I love it. Didn’t the Christian businesses feel threatened when it went public? So? And?


64 posted on 04/10/2015 8:36:50 PM PDT by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: wagglebee

Sounds like a niche market opportunity. A bakery that only produces baked goods with bible verses.


65 posted on 04/10/2015 8:37:34 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: mykroar
But Cut the Cake’s owner, Sharon Haller, didn’t appreciate being made an example of by Feuerstein. She claims that as soon as Feuerstein’s video was posted, she began receiving dozens of phone calls from his fans and followers placing “fake orders” and telling her and the rest of her bakery staff to “kill ourselves.”

Oh yeah, sure, did she record the calls? Never mind, their minions could fake them.

66 posted on 04/10/2015 8:44:27 PM PDT by Bellflower (The LORD is Holy, separated from all sin, perfect, righteous, high and lifted up.)
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To: wagglebee
Hitler isnt taking it very well either.
67 posted on 04/10/2015 8:51:04 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Patiently waiting for the jack booted kick at my door.)
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To: wagglebee

IMO if you are going to take on a politically charged high profile topic as the subject here then you had better familiarize yourself with the facts and the law regarding taping phone calls. The laws vary from state to state but are not hard to research. The fags have demonstrated time and again that they are pretty savvy users of the law and manipulators of the vast MSM and it would only seem prudent to do likewise regarding the legal issues here.

When you fail to be properly informed and educated about your chosen subject then be prepared to take your lumps when the other side out maneuvers you on your own subject.


68 posted on 04/10/2015 8:57:05 PM PDT by Ron H.
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To: xzins
Is there actually a law against recording and playing a phone conversation with a business?

It varies from state to state. Do the research for your own state before attempting a recoding to avoid possible criminal charges.

69 posted on 04/10/2015 9:00:29 PM PDT by Ron H.
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To: DoughtyOne
This guy used some poor judgement IMO.

Happens sometimes when one becomes a bit over zealous and forgets about the logic of ones own actions.

70 posted on 04/10/2015 9:03:26 PM PDT by Ron H.
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To: chajin

That was before libs progressed to be communists and fascists.


71 posted on 04/10/2015 10:46:19 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: wagglebee
The Colorado Civil Rights Commission rejected Jack’s claim early this week, ruling that the bakery owner rejected his message because it violated an established policy of refusing to decorate cakes with "derogatory language and imagery,” not because of his faith.

Bible verses are now considered to be derogatory language?
72 posted on 04/10/2015 10:48:01 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: wagglebee; All

“The left will NEVER understand the principle behind this.”

Sure they do. You are being far too generous.

They just hate the principle, because it limits government power. And they want total control with no limits.

The “gay” issue is just another “issue” to them.

It is never about the “issue”. It is always about the revolution.


73 posted on 04/26/2015 7:21:43 PM PDT by marktwain
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