Posted on 04/08/2015 10:13:37 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
HOUSTON, Texas — A Katy, Texas, man told Breitbart Texas that he is willing to go to jail rather than concede to a violation of his First Amendment speech rights and his property rights. He is facing contempt if he does not turn over his Facebook password to a federal judge in Houston, Texas by noon, Wednesday, April 8th. Jeremy Alcede says former business owners who took the business over in a hostile takeover, are trying to silence his comments about what has happened as a result of the takeover.
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More reasons never to have an FB account.
I don’t Face or Twit either.
You get my password when you agree in writing to accept all responsibility for the account’s use.
Don’t see why the judge is concentrating solely on this person. All he has to do is contact FB reps and issue a Court Order for the guy’s password.
At best, I would put up a fake account so others could post to it, but for no other reason would I do it since I know it could be compromised at any time.
Today it’s FB.
Tomorrow it’s your Bank Account, diary, girl friend’s phone #..................
How does that happen?
The FB request is coming from his personal bankruptcy judge?
Jeremy is also being sued by his ex-partner:
But KHOU learned of a new twist. Alcede, the same man accepting donations online is being sued by his business partner Coe Wilson for allegedly taking money from the business an using it for personal purchases like a Caribbean vacation and jewelry.
Could also be part of Obama & Holder's "Choke Point", Feds putting pressure on Banks dealing with gun dealers.
Since we moved to KY and most of our family is in Seattle, Chicago, Napa and Minneapolis, we use it a lot to stay in touch with each other.
If someone asked for my password via the power of the gun, I’d just create another account with my credentials and change the credentials of the real one temporarily (different picture, location, background, etc.), I’d then give them the key to the new one. Or I’d wipe the old one of all activity and friends and THEN give them the password - and create a new account.
But the exercise is silly. They don’t have the right to my password. It’s personal and private.
When you file for bankruptcy, you give up certain rights to certain assets. Alcede forced the company into bankruptcy, and the facebook account at issue seems like an asset of the company, not Alcede himself (the facebook account is “www.facebook.com/tacticalfirearms,” not “www.facebook.com/jeremy.alcede.”) There’s no First Amendment issue here - the dispute is not based on what he is writing on the facebook page, but rather is a business dispuyte as to who owns the page.
I use Linkedin just for professional reasons to keep up on flying jobs, etc. That’s the sum total of my social interaction with people in my field.
I use Linkedin just for professional reasons to keep up on flying jobs, etc. That’s the sum total of my social interaction with people in my field.
Two good points.
but rather is a business dispuyte as to who owns the page.
From what you say, the page is not “him”. Rather, it’s the company. And the company has been taken over.
How long would it take for a hacking program to discover the password? A minute, maybe an hour!
Talk about Much Ado About Nothing!
That is the 800 lb gorilla in the room.
Why would a judge even need a facebook password?
Does sound like a different issue... this is a corporate page not a personal page. Once it is taken over in bankruptcy he has no right to keep on using it, except as permitted by the court overseeing the bankruptcy. And definitely not to torpedo the value of the company.
Facebook charges nothing to host it, but the page “owner” keeps certain rights in its intellectual property on the page.
To see the nonpublic parts?
Anyhow seems to me the judge could just kick him out of the court and say... bankruptcy denied, now do the best you can with those creditors, good luck!
Where it gets a bit complicated is that it appears that he was essentially using the company page as his own page. But that really shouldn’t matter; for example, if I use my company email as my personal email, that doesn’t mean I get to keep the email address if I leave the company or the company goes bankrupt. I don’t see why this is any different.
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