Posted on 04/06/2015 2:32:07 AM PDT by Libloather
For nicotine enthusiasts, 2015 will be remembered as part of a golden era. Less than 10 years after they were introduced in the United States, e-cigarettes have gone relatively unregulated by health agencies, with companies and users making their own rules in a nicotine-laced Wild West. E-cigarette companies have been advertising their products to adults and children alike, claiming to help smokers quit while simultaneously promoting lollipop-flavored liquids. But now health organizations, including the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and even city-based public health departments are starting to fight backnot in the form of regulations, but with their own media campaigns.
Its a tough fight to pick. Nationwide, more than 20 million people about one in 10 adults have tried e-cigarettes, and plenty of those people have become vaping devotees. Thats due at least in part to the way e-cig companies have advertised their products, unhindered by the FDAs ad regulations for tobacco products. Its totally out of control, says Stanton Glantz , director of the Center for Tobacco Control Research and Education at the University of California San Francisco . For the first time since 1972, we have recreational nicotine being advertised on television and radio. Reminiscent of glamorous smoking ads of the last century , many of the ads feature celebrity endorsements; in a Blu ad, Jenny McCarthy flirts with the camera while rejoicing that she can now smoke without scaring guys away with her smell. And many of them seem shockingly child-centric. The youth use is exploding in parallel to the marketing, says Glantz.
Whats a concerned public health agency to do? Fight ads with ads.
(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...
The war on vaping is about control and tax revenue, period.
To the Left, “regulation” always means “taxation”. Notice that they have never called for for tobacco to be outlawed, just “regulated”.
Here are a few other sources of demon nicotine that must, if there were such a thing as Left-wing logic and consistency, be “regulated”:
http://www.nejm.org/action/showImage?doi=10.1056%2FNEJM199308053290619&iid=t01
It’s about money. Always. Control is a side-effect.
To the entrenched bureaucracy, it means "More money and people for me and my department."
"Unmet needs" is the holy grail of the beltway.
Eventually e-cigs will be regulated severely and taxed just as severely. Can’t have them cutting into cigarette tax revenues.
Liberals are the heirs of the New England Puritans. they have not God anymore but they strive mightily to force everyone else to be physically and mentally “pure.” The Minutemen in Massachusetts did not fight for Liberty but for noninterference in their own particular religion and customs. Puritans were pretty cruel to themselves and each other and the witch trials show that they were not concerned with any sort of freedom of conscience. Without God on which to hang their notions of purity, anything and everything is the subject of their attentions.
Lol, well they're both alkaloids but that's about it. DNA kind of looks like spaghetti too. The ignorance and gullibility of you Prevention magazine types is frightening.
Vapes - the gateway drug to cigarettes — other drugs - safe and right to decriminalize
Since e-cigarettes distribute their ingredients by water vapor, it’s interesting to remember that water vapor is the #1 co2 causing component in the atmosphere. Why the opponents haven’t siezed on this little factoid in their hatred of the unregulated product is curious.
How about the government not step on the neck of anything.
Instead cut of all government subsidized health care and let people choose what they will engage in and bear the costs for that.
It is any old concept called freedom.
Not very popular these days, even on this site.
“How about Coca-Cola flavored Rum? Or...oh my god...orange juice flavored Vodka!!”
The groups most likely to smoke are those without a high school degree, and those who are mentally ill.
Funny, huh!?
I just can’t wait until they go after caffeine. You know those coffee beans are picked by poor people in foreign countries. They don’t get a living wage of $15 per hour. Anyone that drinks coffee or has a pop is evil and should be persecuted. They are almost as bad as those right-wing wacko conservatives. </ sarc>
Every person I've seen argue against e-cigs really just can't stand that people can have a habit they don't like. Like you, I think they will simply come up with some bogus studies like they did with second hand smoke and pimp it as hard as they can. And again, in the end, anyone who is anti-smoker will pile on. This is about control and money, not health. I smoked for over 30 years and quit using a vaporizer. Never felt better. I take serious offense to anyone who thinks this is a product that should regulated. the choad in this video article is even going overboard. But his goals are to crush the small vendors and eliminate competition, not public safety. about the only thing I DO agree on is requiring ID for adult sale only.
I'm damn tired of anti-smoking nazis and now they are simply PO'd that smokers found a non-harmful substitute. Regulation and eventually "sin taxes" will ultimately make it just as expensive as cigarettes for no other reason that they can. I'm really fed up with militant lobbyists, the self-righteous and nannys.
I have a co-worker that used to chew a can a day that now vapes. What he told me was a huge savings but I can’t remember his exact numbers. It’s like seven bucks a day or something like that.
I don’t doubt some kids will get hooked on nicotine, try cigarettes and like those better and become regular smokers. I’d say the overwhelming majority of them would have started smoking anyway though.
I’m now seeing people driving around with their vape pens fairly often. I’ve been off the shit since November myself. Never wanted to try vaping though I did try a hookah a number of times. That was kind of fun.
That was probably a bad way to present it. However, if you look at the two drugs in their effects, toxicity and long-term health risks, they are pretty similar. Nicotine is more toxic in extremely concentrated form, but that is not how it is being used and that danger can be said a bout nearly any consumable substance. Cigarettes have been attacked relentlessly because of the carcinogens, how the tar affects the lungs and bloodstream, etc... all valid points. Nicotine on the other hand, has mostly just been along for the ride and gotten lumped in there. Sure, you don’t want to consume nicotine if you can avoid it, why would you? But, if you are a smoker, you can switch to this delivery method and shed all of the bad luggage that comes along with getting it via smoking. The endless available flavors are what make them so successful, people get to pick what works for them, unlike patches, inhalers and gum (that have dismal success rates). It also has zero effect on others around you (you can’t even smell it) other than the seizures that nazi anti’s have when they see it. And quite frankly, I actually enjoy that aspect of it. SOB’s have treated me like a leaper for 30 years and it’s nice to have invalidated their ALL of arguments. The fact remains that they only attack e-cigs because they can’t stand watching you “get by with it”. Government, on the other hand, has other motives and we all know what that is. they will leverage the anti’s like they always have and guess who will lose again? The free consumer.
“The groups most likely to smoke are those without a high school degree, and those who are mentally ill.”
Well, I’ve got the mentally ill part down pat....don’t know what I’m gonna do with all these degrees, though...
“A cigarette is by far and away the most dangerous consumer product ever invented. “
I thought it was AR-15’s and SUV’s. I just can’t keep my liberal catechism straight.
“...dont know what Im gonna do with all these degrees, though...”
Regression toward the mean — you’ll associate with other smokers who do not have degrees.
Just spent time in Las Vegas on the strip..
There were “No Vaping” signs all over...how much nicotine is there in the vapor? Just wondering.
“Regression toward the mean...”
Perhaps your right...this does seem to be happening here this morning :)
‘Pseudo-scientific mumbo-jumbo’ is dead accurate. The FDA ‘study’ of e-cigs totally FAILED TO MEASURE THE CARCINOGENIC TAR from e-cigs in comparison with cigarettes.
The Feds have already sacrificed their last shred of scientific credibility.
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