Posted on 04/02/2015 1:31:20 AM PDT by Hugin
Today the Russian navy possesses around 270 warships including surface combatants, amphibious ships, submarines, and auxiliaries.
On paper, that is. But that count includes many ships that are inactive and in poor material condition plus scores of small patrol vessels with very limited combat capability.
Of the 270 ships, just 125 or so are in a working state. And of those 125, only around 45 are oceangoing surface warships or submarines that are in good shape and deployable.
All the above figures come from Dr. Dmitry Gorenburg of the Davis Center for Russian and Eurasian Studies at Harvard University.
By comparison, the U.S. Navy possesses some 290 warships. Pretty much all of them are well-maintained, deployable, oceangoing vessels.
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"Russia's shipbuilding industry is not in good shape," Gorenburg explains. He estimates that the industry could build somewhere between half and 70 percent of the vessels Moscow wants by 2020. "The earliest that Russia could build a new aircraft carrier is 2027, while new destroyers are still on drawing board, with the first unlikely to be commissioned for 10 years."
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Meanwhile, the U.S. and Chinese navies continue to grow and modernize. The American fleet is working hard to expand to around 306 large ships by the 2020s. And Washington is already deploying more of its vessels overseas.
(Excerpt) Read more at theweek.com ...
Canada has some ships on order from the Halifax, N.S. Shipyard.
http://www.irvingshipbuilding.com/irving-shipbuilding-news.aspx
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The northern reaches of Canada are wide open, no real military presence there. While Pooty has 2 brigades in Russia’s far North, trained and ready for a hi diddle - diddle up over the top.
India is building its own aircraft carriers
But their aircraft seem to be flying all over the place...
I’m not in a hurry to take Dmitry’s word from his lefty sinecure at Harvard on this subject. What do Jane’s or other reliable sources say about it?
The Russian Navy collapsed 25 years ago.
Navy is very expensive.
The Chicoms are developing a curry seeking missile.
Just because they are low on boats is no reason to collapse. Can't bammy just shed a few of ours? With parity, the Russian Navy could be in fine shape.
Keep in mind the only thing Russians make for export that are worth a damn are weapons. Air craft are high on the list.
The flying war planes are in effect, commercials, advertising. The planes get lots of press read by world generals needing to buy war planes.
How’s their sub doing?
Heck, our whole country is.
I always thought that their submarine fleet was the backbone of their navy and their primary means of projecting seapower in oceans far from home. So my question is, of the 270 ships the Russian Navy has how many are submarines and how many of those are actually operational?
the CS Cornerbrook was the infamous wallow in the sea vessel.
But here is how the Canadian Goverment sells her Navy’s four submarines:
http://www.navy-marine.forces.gc.ca/en/news-operations/news-media-submarine-fleet-status.page
They will either be sinkers of stinkers I guess.I hope none of them have to encounter a Russian nuclear fueled attack class sub. But that’s what they are now facing. If they don’t have boats then they will have to have balls.
I’m no epert but this article seems to contradict the author’s.
In the last two years, Russia’s second-biggest fleet, the Pacific Fleet, has been receiving new ships for the first time since the collapse of the Soviet Union. In 2013 the fleet obtained a new Borei-class nuclear-powered ballistic missile submarines (SSBN), and is expecting five more over the next decade. The fleet has furthermore received one Dyugon-class landing craft in 2014. This modernization campaign is part of an ambitious naval re-armament program over the next 20 years
http://thediplomat.com/2015/03/what-to-expect-from-russias-pacific-fleet-in-2015/
“I always thought that their submarine fleet was the backbone of their navy and their primary means of projecting seapower in oceans far from home. So my question is, of the 270 ships the Russian Navy has how many are submarines and how many of those are actually operational?”
I agree, their sub fleet formed the core of their naval threat. Of the platforms listed here, I would estimate, at best, that only half could put to sea tomorrow.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/ship.htm
‘In 2013 the fleet obtained a new Borei-class nuclear-powered ballistic missile submarines (SSBN), and is expecting five more over the next decade. ‘
In 1970s Soviet Navy commissioned a new nuclear sub every several weeks. Current development surely doesn’t look like any massive build up.
We followed the newest Russian cruiser out of the Black Sea into the Med Sea in 1978. We screwed with them by playing Black Sabbath tapes over the under water phone and tossed Playboy magazines on their decks when they tried to scare us off while we were having a steak cookout on the fantail up wind of them. Give me a break. The Japanese Kicked the Russian fleets ass in World War Two. Bite Me Putin!
‘The Japanese Kicked the Russian fleets ass in World War Two. Bite Me Putin!’
I’m sure there wasn’t any serious naval engagement between Russia and Japan in WWII.
Not to mention the Japanese were wiped out every time they met the Soviets on land or in the air in WWII.
Russo-Japanese segment of WWII was probably the most spectacular major conflict in history totally dominated by one side, after Desert Storm.
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