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Fargo Police Want Citizens To Give Them Voluntary Access To Their Video Streams
SayAnythingBlog.com ^ | 03/25/2015 | Rob Port

Posted on 03/25/2015 9:03:47 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

The Fargo Police Department has launched a voluntary program whereby they’re requesting that citizens give them access to their video feeds in exchange for a sticker:

FARGO – If you’ve got a video camera, police want to take a peek. A new program unveiled Tuesday allows residents and business owners here to give police access to their video cameras. Police say they’d like to use the footage to solve and deter crime. …

The program, called SafeCam, “helps citizens be proactive in protecting their homes,” said Officer Jessica Schindeldecker.

Those who register their cameras will receive a Police Department sticker, intended to deter crime, which they can place in their window, she said.

The request comes as Fargo law enforcement begins using a new online feature called CrimeReports.com which will allow citizens to access a database of some of the crimes happening around them. “The data posted online does not include general calls for service, traffic incidents, police activity where no crime report was taken, and most sexual assaults, crimes against children, domestic violence cases, narcotics cases and medical calls,” reports the Forum.

But still, transparency is a good thing, and I like the idea of citizens being able to easily access this information.

Still, the camera feed thing is kind of weird. I’m not sure why police need access to private video streams, or why the public should grant them that access.

Security cameras are generally an after-the-fact tool for solving crimes. Few, if any, of these video streams are being actively monitored. Rather, their value is in establishing what happened after the fact. As such, the current system where police request footage from cameras in the area of an incident (or obtain it through a properly issued warrant) seems sufficient to me.

I really don’t want to go down the road where police have this sort of access. I mean, today they’re asking for it. How long until it’s a requirement?


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: North Dakota
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1 posted on 03/25/2015 9:03:47 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I’m okay with this so long as EVERYONE can access these video feeds and not just law enforcement who might want to suppress video if it’s not so flattering for them.

http://copsbreakingthelaw.com/


2 posted on 03/25/2015 9:06:25 AM PDT by MeganC (You can ignore reality, but reality won't ignore you.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

And I want police to honor their oaths and go to DC to arrest the occupier in chief, but that ain’t happening either.


3 posted on 03/25/2015 9:06:58 AM PDT by dware (The GOP is dead. Long live Conservatism.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I’m of the belief that public servants (elected or appointed) should be giving the citizens full access to their video and audio, not the other way around. It is just as (if not more)important that we know what they are up to than vice versa.


4 posted on 03/25/2015 9:08:09 AM PDT by apoliticalone (The face of America is changing and only corrupt beholden politicians voted for it, not Americans)
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To: apoliticalone

Agreed.


5 posted on 03/25/2015 9:08:45 AM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: apoliticalone
I’m of the belief that public servants (elected or appointed) should be giving the citizens full access to their video and audio, not the other way around. It is just as (if not more)important that we know what they are up to than vice versa.

Ditto!

6 posted on 03/25/2015 9:10:54 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“I’m not sure why police need access to private video streams, or why the public should grant them that access.”

They want to expand their coverage to make a facial and license plate recognition system more workable, I would bet.


7 posted on 03/25/2015 9:15:42 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Big brother in return for a sticker?

Hey, I’m so there!


8 posted on 03/25/2015 9:19:03 AM PDT by lowbridge
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To: Boogieman

To make the license/face recognition software work....you need pretty good cameras...not what the usual bakery or gas station puts up. I could see them doing this now and hoping in fifteen years that everyone gets the four-star cameras and this makes sense. Maybe this is a long-term seed program with no payoff for a decade or more.


9 posted on 03/25/2015 9:20:04 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

A better program (and one I would participate in) would be to notify business and homeowners in a particular zone if they NEED video due to a specific incident and have it provided to them by request. I’d be happy to help out with that program if it could help catch criminals. But no way they would ever get access to live feed video of my home, inside or out.


10 posted on 03/25/2015 9:20:38 AM PDT by FunkyZero (... I've got a Grand Piano to prop up my mortal remains)
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“that citizens give them access to their video feeds in exchange for a sticker”

Instead of a sticker, how about an even swap. Like say access to my video feed in return for hillary clintons missing emails?


11 posted on 03/25/2015 9:21:15 AM PDT by lowbridge
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
 
 
Found this in a link in the above article, video included -
 
Four Moorhead officers disciplined for chase across golf course, three with unpaid suspensions
http://www.inforum.com/news/crime/3707439-four-moorhead-officers-disciplined-chase-across-golf-course-three-unpaid
 
Like something right out of a Hollywood movie. Geez, really, guys - a helo was all over the suspect, he wasn't getting away.
 
 

12 posted on 03/25/2015 9:25:20 AM PDT by lapsus calami (What's that stink? Code Pink ! ! And their buddy Murtha, too!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Not only do they want to spy on you, they want your pre-permission and they want you to pay for it.


13 posted on 03/25/2015 9:26:47 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (When did the 2nd amendment suddenly require a license or permit for a gun?)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I’m a fan of “The First 48” and it seems that every episode, cops spend hours, if not days running around looking for video cameras, then trying to find the owners, and hopefully see if they work. I recall one show, when the owner of a house across the street from a murder, was away for a week..they couldn’t reach him..they had nothing..no leads..no evidence..when he finally got back..he call the cops...his camera had captured the murder..they arrested the perp immediately after..


14 posted on 03/25/2015 9:37:06 AM PDT by ken5050 (If Hillary is elected president, what role will Huma Abedin have in the White House? Scary, eh?)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

They say, “never say anything to the police” (without your lawyer). Same goes for giving them your videos — duh. These videos will go in to a huge database accessible to every law enforcement cabal in the world, and will be used against, YOU.


15 posted on 03/25/2015 9:37:13 AM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Don’t EVER invite the MAN into your life, ever.


16 posted on 03/25/2015 9:44:09 AM PDT by LongWayHome
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To: apoliticalone

Agreed. Who pays the piper calls the tune. Police video and audio are paid for lock stock and barrel by tax dollars. We pay for it all and have proprietary rights to the content. Videos taken with privately owned equipment? Better bring a f@#$ing warrant.


17 posted on 03/25/2015 10:10:25 AM PDT by katana (Just my opinions)
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To: MeganC

And also there needs to be a live cam in the mayors office,,,,with sound.


18 posted on 03/25/2015 10:10:29 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

SnitchCam


19 posted on 03/25/2015 10:14:24 AM PDT by kiryandil (making the jests that some FReepers aren't allowed to...)
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To: lowbridge

LMAO.


20 posted on 03/25/2015 10:14:33 AM PDT by TADSLOS (A Ted Cruz Happy Warrior! GO TED!)
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