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I agree that most of our government needs to be reigned in and brought under control. There are certain departments that should not exist though. That’s where I would start first.

To the extent the President has the authority to dismiss certain departments or agencies, I would do so.

I believe the Department of Education answers directly to the president. I believe he appoints that department head. The EPA is another agency that I believe the president has the authority to eliminate it.

The IRS, the BATF, and other agencies abuse their powers. The president can call their Directors in and put them on notice, that he won’t tolerate many things that have been happening. I would list the things I wanted stopped immediately. If that didn’t happen in 60 days, I’d can the department head and put someone in who would follow my directives.

This government can be cleaned up.

One good man in the Oval Office can do a lot of good.

I’ll say something else, if a guy like Boehner existed in my party and I was president, I’d go to war with the guy. I’d do my best to get him replaced with a good man. That goes for Mitch McConnel as well.

Of course he can’t act unilaterally to change things up, but he can put a lot of pressure on guys like McConnell and Boehner.

In your mind, what than?

Without repentance and the almost unfathomable cost in blood, we go the same way Ancient Israel did: extinct, captive, subjugated, destroyed and lost into the nations.

No one wants to hear this truth - but that is too darn bad. A time will come when those giving this same warning will be remembered for being correct - even if the very people they wanted to save - rend them apart.

This government can be cleaned up.

Only a mind enslaved to a fatal case of Normalcy Bias or hopelessly lost in fantasy could believe such a thing.

One good man in the Oval Office can do a lot of good.

This belief in political messiahs and dictators is obviously rampant in this country - even among those who assert they are Conservatives.

A corrupted people, a foreign people will not select the kinds of leaders that will uphold liberty and the Constitution. Only a moral and religious people are capable of freedom.

You are right but I have absolutely no faith at all in the electorate. I have a deep loathing for about half the population.

EPA was created by Nixon.

Read up on Ronald Reagan. He did turn things around for a while.

Yes, all true, and I agree with your sentiment.

Where exactly did he act like a dictator to overcome overt Marxists and a uniparty oligarchy that performed a velvet coup under our noses in order to ‘turn things around for awhile?

Reagan could never get “elected” in the current culture - hell not even JFK could get elected these days notwithstanding we saw our last ‘honest’ national election in 2008.

Reagan put through the largest tax cut in the nation’s history during his term in office, with both houses of Congress in Democrat hands.

He increased our Naval ships by 100%.

He faced down Gorbachev on Missiles in Europe and Nuclear negotiations that had some in Congress and the press declaring him to be over the hill with senility.

He implemented policies that brought down the Soviet Union, reduced the number of Marxist governments in the world by about ten.

Due to Reagan’s somewhere in the ball park of six nations broke away from the Soviet Union, their people free of Soviet domination for the first time since WWII.

Please explain to me what actions Reagan took that resembled that of a dictator.

You completely misunderstood. I did not imply Reagan WAS a dictator. I’m saying that in order to ‘turn things around’, the ‘next Reagan’ would have to act as a dictator in order to even slow down what the Marxist/Fascists are doing in their velvet coup.

NOT

GONNA

HAPPEN.

This IS NOT the same country it was back in 1980 - hell - the Democrats themselves are no longer the same. Where does this pollyannish unicorn fantasy come from that says we can have a Reagan Part Deux???

Reagan was a product of his time and this country’s culture. That’s all gone now. We have overt Marxists/Fascists where the Ass Party once stood, and Liberal Democrats where Reagan once stood as a party. We’ve already been fundamentally transformed, what about that do you folks fail to grasp? As Obama’s Amnesty gets implemented - we have not a prayer to get it back to the kind of culture or people that selected Reagan to Administer the Executive, not that our votes will count in a mob-run nation of institutionalized corruption at the highest levels on down.

So another Reagan is not possible, and ‘turning things around’ will require that which few to none in politics or the public will have the balls or stomach for.

You are hoping for a messiah to ‘turn things around’. Top on down is NOT how this nation was forged. It was always from the bottom on up. This people and culture are NOT going to select or allow someone to fix what they are grown accustomed. They will suffer evil, while evil is sufferable rather than right themselves and abolish the forms to which they are become accustomed.

I voted for Reagan - none of us saw him as a savior. He was the right man at the right time - but back then, we were still America even under Carter. We saw Jiimmah as a disaster and an embarrassment - not a Zool The Destructor as we have in the Obama regime.

Today we are not even a shadow of what we were when Reagan beat the Peanut farmer. Half our population sees government as god, and is on sustenance from the very beast it feeds our money to. It is nearly wholly ignorant of our foundations and can care less about the very principles of liberty unless it comes out of a can, a bottle, an iPhone and is provided subsidies for all of it.

Presidents are a reflection of the people and the culture, same as the Reps they “elect”. We lost the culture first - now the nation itself is following.

And be warned - it is in times like this that false christs and false messiahs rise up for power’s sake and take advantage of misery with promises they have no intention of keeping. When a people are ready, A leader will appear.

We are not ready.

We have to recapture our history and heritage first - and we have decades of work ahead of us barring any external event that changes everything.

You completely misunderstood. I did not imply Reagan WAS a dictator. I’m saying that in order to ‘turn things around’, the ‘next Reagan’ would have to act as a dictator in order to even slow down what the Marxist/Fascists are doing in their velvet coup.

NOT GONNA HAPPEN.

I didn't misunderstand you. I merely pointed out that in Reagan's day he was opposed by the majority. He had opposition in the Democrat House and Senate. He had considerable opposition within his own party.

IT DID HAPPEN. It can happen again.

If the president uses the bully pulpit and connects with the people like Reagan did, it will. That's all Reagan had to do. Obama turned things in one direction. Another man can turn it again.

This IS NOT the same country it was back in 1980 - hell - the Democrats themselves are no longer the same. Where does this pollyannish unicorn fantasy come from that says we can have a Reagan Part Deux???

The only insult that is relevant here, is one that focuses on the futility of saying, "It can't happen, so why try?"

Reagan was a product of his time and this country’s culture. That’s all gone now. We have overt Marxists/Fascists where the Ass Party once stood, and Liberal Democrats where Reagan once stood as a party.

Reagan was not the titular head of the Republican Party. George Bush was. You forget much if you don't remember that Reagan was detested by the party. They tried to silence him, and he woudln't have any part of it. The Republican Party of his day had already changed. It wasn't the party of Goldwater. It wanted nothing to do with Reagan or anyone like him. So you tell me, were people pollyannish uncorn fantasy fanatics to back Reagan? Will they be to back Cruz or someone better? No.

We’ve already been fundamentally transformed, what about that do you folks fail to grasp?

What part of, "If you don't try, you will accomplish nothing." do you not quite grasp there? Not only do you reject the mere notion of trying, you take your time to stop and insult people who are willing to try. Pardon me for asking, but is that you James (Carville).

As Obama’s Amnesty gets implemented - we have not a prayer to get it back to the kind of culture or people that selected Reagan to Administer the Executive, not that our votes will count in a mob-run nation of institutionalized corruption at the highest levels on down.

So what do you plan to do about it, go on Conservative forums and trash anyone who says the nation is worth the effort? What are you doing here if this is your take on things? You're wasting your time reading Conservatives talk of working hard to better this nation. Why? You are convinced it can't happen. Why not leave folks in peace here and withdraw into your own fortress and give up. No wait, you alread did that last part.

So another Reagan is not possible, and ‘turning things around’ will require that which few to none in politics or the public will have the balls or stomach for.

Which is stand up for the right, and drive through what you believe in. Reagan wasn't a dictator. We won't have to have one now either. That was the point, and so you are the one who misunderstood me.

You are hoping for a messiah to ‘turn things around’. Top on down is NOT how this nation was forged. It was always from the bottom on up. This people and culture are NOT going to select or allow someone to fix what they are grown accustomed. They will suffer evil, while evil is sufferable rather than right themselves and abolish the forms to which they are become accustomed.

Blah blah blah blah blah...

"I can't. You can't. We can't. They can't. OMG, what am I going to do?"

Once again, why are you wasting your time here?

Was Reagan a massiah? Evidently you think so, because he did the exact thing you say can't be done, and you are wrong.

I voted for Reagan - none of us saw him as a savior. He was the right man at the right time - but back then, we were still America even under Carter. We saw Jiimmah as a disaster and an embarrassment - not a Zool The Destructor as we have in the Obama regime.

Ok, exactly, none of us saw Reagan as a massiah. It didn't take one then. It won't take one now. Cruz (for example) gets elected. He comes up with policies that he wishes to drive foreward. The leaders of the Republicans in the House and Senate adopt his policies. Having the majority (if they do), they develop and pass legislation which he signs to roll back decades of bad policy and programs. What is impossible about that?

Cruz won't just stand there like a rock, like McCain and Romney did. He will point out the other side's failures, something that hasn't been done in public for several decades. Bush was silent as a church-mouse, and after him came McShame and Romney. Even Dole didn't put up a real fight. And the First Bush didn't either. It has been since 1984 that we had a candidate that was willing to take it to the opposition in any real meaningful way. In 2016, that will be 32 years prior, almost three decades, just having something as simple as a vocal opposition. Right there is why we haven't prevailed. We gave nobody a reason to vote for our man.

Your mistake is that you have forgotten that we can actually fight back. And when we do with sound policy, it will prevail. Even without fighting back Bush squeaked out wins, and McCain and Romney didn't lose by that much considering. I mean McStain even endorsed the opposition weeks before the election.

With someone who is articulate and able to mix it up and willing to do so, it's a whole new ball game.

Today we are not even a shadow of what we were when Reagan beat the Peanut farmer. Half our population sees government as god, and is on sustenance from the very beast it feeds our money to. It is nearly wholly ignorant of our foundations and can care less about the very principles of liberty unless it comes out of a can, a bottle, an iPhone and is provided subsidies for all of it.

Once again, if this is how you truly feel, what are you wasting your time here for? You say you are convinced there's no chance. So why not just ease the level of frustration and relax, find yourself a hobby?

Presidents are a reflection of the people and the culture, same as the Reps they “elect”. We lost the culture first - now the nation itself is following.

You wait until Cruz (or someone else) starts talking about the invisible jobless under Obama. You wait until he talks about the military and how Obama has trashed it. You wait until he talks about other things that matter.

This nation hasn't changed as much as you think when it comes to bread and butter politics.

A good man is all it takes. It's all it has ever taken.

And be warned - it is in times like this that false christs and false messiahs rise up for power’s sake and take advantage of misery with promises they have no intention of keeping. When a people are ready, A leader will appear.

We are not ready.

I agree that false prophets will capitalize on this type of situation, if you let them. And that's all Obama was essentially. I think more people grasp that Obama has been a failure, than you think. When Cruz (or someone else) starts talking about Black jobs before and after Obama, a lot of folks will find truth in it.

We are ready. Obama has teed it up. We've got a 225 yard par five ahead. Of course we can nominate Jeb Bush and nobody will vote for him, but failing that, we're going to take the Democrat party to the wood-shed after 2016.

This changing failed nation you speak of, this culture that has forever changed, this hopeless electorate... it just voted to make Republicans the majority in the House and Senate of the United States.

Hmmm....

We have to recapture our history and heritage first - and we have decades of work ahead of us barring any external event that changes everything.

Our history and hertitage are right where they belong, front and center of the next Conservative to change the world.

Ronald Reagan utilized them in his day, and in our day the next Conservative to inhabit the White House will do the same thing. Grow a set. Buck up! All is not lost.

You have a fatal case of Normalcy Bias and not a clue of what time we have arrived at.

But Keep practicing your insanity in the vain hope your electoral fantasy will come true.

Some of us know the time and have moved on to other fields of prep and preservation.

"Your mistake is that you have forgotten that we can actually fight back"

Your faith in a civil/political solution is yours.

You have a fatal case of Normalcy Bias and not a clue of what time we have arrived at.

What I have is a normal sense of reality. This nation isn't done. It's silly to act as if it is. It is at a low point to be sure, but it is salvagable. It is quite easily I would add.

If the populace at large will vote to have a majority in Congress that is Republican in both bodies, it is reasoned to believe they would also vote to place a Republican in the White House.

If that Republican is Ted Cruz or someone better, you've got a lot of recalculating to do. And that is entirely possible. It is entirely possible he or another person would also have a Republican Congress.

Not everyone is a George Bush, a Bob Dole, another George Bush, a John McCain, or a Mitt Romney. Not everyone will go down without a fight. That is exactly what these men did.

It is exactly what you have chosen to do. You have declared the nation irreconcilable at present, and think that re-education must be done before it can be righted. I think that we work to get the right people in office, just as we have always done. The best re-education comes from the top.

But Keep practicing your insanity in the vain hope your electoral fantasy will come true.

Honestly, you are having a bit of a problem discerning who has a firm grip on reality and who doesn't. In the media we hear just what the media wants you to think. And you buy off on it lock stock and barrel. Don't.

There are many good people in this nation. When presented with solid ideas, they respond to them. That's why we have a majority in the House and Senate. What's your answer for that? The very same people you declare unwilling to put Republicans into office, have done just that. If we get the right buy to lead them, we can accomplish a lot. And yes I know the value of the average Republican in Washington, D. C. these days. That doesn't mean that they will instantly be the enemy of a good solid Conservative if they get elected.

Some of us know the time and have moved on to other fields of prep and preservation.

Some folks think they know the time. Here you confirm what I have stated. The business at hand is getting Cruz or someone better into office, but no, you're smarter than anyone and have moved on.

Let me know how that moving on is coming as the rest of us strive to get solid people elected

We still have to live in this society. Evidently you're of the opinion you don't.

Your mistake is that you have forgotten that we can actually fight back.

Your faith in a civil/political solution is yours.

Yes, as a matter of fact it is.

Isn't it the job of Christians to oppose evil?

I don't see any place in my Bible where it says, "Give up. I am less powerful than the he who has dominion over evil."

Amen!

What I have is a normal sense of reality.

No, you are infected with a fatal case of Normalcy Bias, because practicing insanity in a fundamentally changed culture is not normal by any means.

If the populace at large will vote to have a majority in Congress that is Republican in both bodies, it is reasoned to believe they would also vote to place a Republican in the White House.

Are you just willfully ignorant or stupid??? We already DID THIS. The fruits of electing Republicans to both houses of Congress - is a proven exercise in insanity, futility and gross stupidity, save for less than a handful of men who are being demonized and marginalized into irrelevance.

"Vote more Republicans" is all you got, even when voting for the Oligarchy has done nothing but empower Obama's lawless dictatorship.

You have declared the nation irreconcilable at present, and think that re-education must be done before it can be righted.

Are you blind as well as deaf??? This culture and nation at present is a testament to the exact opposite of what you say it is. This people will end up destroyed for a lack of knowledge and understanding of our foundations. That is REALITY. That is biblical. That is historical. You choose not to see it.

But willfully ignorant party loyalists like yourself are stuck on pretending everything is just fine and good, and all we need to do is vote for more Republicans and magically - everything will work itself out and we will be saved!

It is at a low point to be sure, but it is salvagable. It is quite easily I would add.

The debt alone negates your unicorn-farting-rainbow-skittles fantasy, notwithstanding a dictatorship that has been funded, confirmed, defended and approved by the very party you seem to think is going to save us "quite easily".

Clueless does not begin to describe your view of our current reality.

Honestly, you are having a bit of a problem discerning who has a firm grip on reality and who doesn't. In the media we hear just what the media wants you to think. And you buy off on it lock stock and barrel.

Facts are stubborn things. Facts of everything from ObamaCare, to Amnesty to nuke treaties with Iran, refusal to impeach or use the Power of the Purse and the debt - facts which the MSM do not report about.

But yet you want to tell me that I'M listening to the media?????

That's why we have a majority in the House and Senate. What's your answer for that?

It was pointless. A wasted effort. The GOP confirmed lawless persons who asserted their right to violate the Constitution to high office and funded every unConstitutional dictatorial power-grab this regime has made. We might as well have left the Democrats in total control of Congress for all the fruits the GOP have wrought.

The GOP have legitimized and legalized treason to the Constitution and the rule of law. They are willing accomplices. Even going back to Bush II and 2006 if you want to. Your 'R' majority MEANS NOTHING.

They are part and party to an oligarchy that has overthrown the Republic in a velvet coup that people like you pretend did not happen. Even worse, you then lecture those of us who know what time it is that we are misguided and that things will get better 'easily' if we just elect more Republicans.

Only co-conspirators or complete ignoramuses talk that way.

Let me know how that moving on is coming as the rest of us strive to get solid people elected

You make me laugh. You are nothing but a Practitioner of insanity. That is all you know. Look bub, Our moving on will keep us alive and able to resist what is coming.

You and your likeminded pollyannas…. not so much. Your idea of 'fighting' is limited to voting whomever Rove tells you to vote for, as if we were somehow still a Republic and not a recreation of the Soviet Union. Go ahead, lick the GOP palms that assuage you because posterity will certainly never remember you were our countryman.

Isn't it the job of Christians to oppose evil? I don't see any place in my Bible where it says, "Give up. I am less powerful than the he who has dominion over evil."

I do not find anywhere in scripture where opposing evil is limited to voting for Republicans.

Notwithstanding the fact that the bible is very clear that a nation of God's people who practice the kinds of evil that we are - is a nation that He will bring to utter ruination and destruction for our collective and national sins.

Deuteronomy 28:15- to end of chapter comes to mind.

But you appear to be one of those whom Isaiah 30:10 speaks of.

“This government can be cleaned up.”

You’re wrong. Very, very wrong.

L

What I have is a normal sense of reality.

No, you are infected with a fatal case of Normalcy Bias, because practicing insanity in a fundamentally changed culture is not normal by any means.

First, I would like to thank you for one of the most humorous exchanges I've been involved in, in months if not years.

You should have been in the olympics, because your ability and inclination to jump to conclusions is second to none.

Sadly, your abilty to read and comprehend what you are reading is demonstrably non-existant.

Normalcy bias? Then I guess it's just not possible for someone to disagree with you on point, unless they are severely flawed. And so you toss that out so that you don't have to think about what they say. You just dismiss their comments.

If the populace at large will vote to have a majority in Congress that is Republican in both bodies, it is reasoned to believe they would also vote to place a Republican in the White House.

Are you just willfully ignorant or stupid??? We already DID THIS. The fruits of electing Republicans to both houses of Congress - is a proven exercise in insanity, futility and gross stupidity, save for less than a handful of men who are being demonized and marginalized into irrelevance.

"Vote more Republicans" is all you got, even when voting for the Oligarchy has done nothing but empower Obama's lawless dictatorship.

God you are slow on the uptake. In my previous posts to you, I explained that with a good president leading them, the Republicans in Congress could be useful. I don't disagree with your comments on what the Republcans in Congress are doing now. I never said I did. Not to be disuaded, you couldn't grasp that point. I have to actually slap you up side the head with it here, becuase you couldn't discern meaning from what I wrote to you before. Why is that?

Who sets policy? Is it the president or is it Congress? If a Republican president sends over policy directives to Congress, his will, not theirs will prevail. Very seldom, in fact I don't remember ever seeing it, do members of the same party thumb their nose at a president from their own party. A president Cruz (for example) would set policy and a majority Republican Congress would fall in line.

You have declared the nation irreconcilable at present, and think that re-education must be done before it can be righted.

Are you blind as well as deaf??? This culture and nation at present is a testament to the exact opposite of what you say it is. This people will end up destroyed for a lack of knowledge and understanding of our foundations. That is REALITY. That is biblical. That is historical. You choose not to see it.

That is Biblical? For crying out loud, please tell me where the United States is discussed in the Bible. Then hone it down to where it is said that in 2017 President Cruz will be cursed among men, to find it impossible to pass a good wholesome agenda. Please oh mighty Cong, give me chapter and verse.

Man you are a one note ding-bat. You wax rhapsodic about our society changing. You say that it is not savagable. When told that the same people you trash are in fact willing to put Republicans in power, you ignore the glaring implications.

Once again, for the slow of thinking. If the public will put a majority of Republicans in Congress, they are also capable of putting a Republican in as President. Why do I have to keep telling you this. Why do I have to take you by the hand and lead you to the truth of this? Why are you incapable of grasping that with a good solid Republican President and a Republican majority in Congress, things can be turned around? Are you simply afraid to admit this makes sense? Are you too ignorant to realize it does?

I'm beginning to believe the latter is the case.

But willfully ignorant party loyalists like yourself are stuck on pretending everything is just fine and good, and all we need to do is vote for more Republicans and magically - everything will work itself out and we will be saved!

Now you are reducing this to a matter of party loyalists. You really are a moron. Nowhere have I advocated for voting for just any Republican. I have instead mentioned that if we can get a solid Conservative installed as president, he can lead the Republicans in Congress back toward the promised land.

Please point me to any place where I stated we had to vote for Republicans no matter what? I don't do it. I don't advocate for it. I've only been posting this fact on the forum for the last 18 years. I openly trashed McCain up until about six weeks before the election, even after he had been nominated.

It is at a low point to be sure, but it is salvagable. It is quite easily I would add.

The debt alone negates your unicorn-farting-rainbow-skittles fantasy, notwithstanding a dictatorship that has been funded, confirmed, defended and approved by the very party you seem to think is going to save us "quite easily".

You are incredibly stupid. I hate to break it to you, but with a solid Republican in the office of the Presidency, it wouldn't be 18 months before we would be running a balanced budget. We would be paying down that debt in short order.

This situation is primed perfectly for a good President to exploit. We have around 40 million people out of work in this nation. Do I need to tell you what the increased tax income stream would be like, if they were put to work? Do I have to tell you what the decreased drain on the treasury from public services would be?

Good policy will put people back to work. Good policy will see our welfare rolls reduced by about 75%. Good policy will see a massive wave of freed up and increased funds so that this nation could be righted with ease.

Let me guess, you with all your incredible wisdom were unaware of any of this.

Clueless does not begin to describe your view of our current reality.

Yes, well the word clueless does come to mind doesn't it.

Honestly, you are having a bit of a problem discerning who has a firm grip on reality and who doesn't. In the media we hear just what the media wants you to think. And you buy off on it lock stock and barrel.

Facts are stubborn things. Facts of everything from ObamaCare, to Amnesty to nuke treaties with Iran, refusal to impeach or use the Power of the Purse and the debt - facts which the MSM do not report about.

Yes, and even stubborn things change over time. Yawn. Yes Obama has been a real disaster, and yes the Republicans in Congress don't have a spine. Tell me something I didn't know. Despite this, try and use what's left of that brain of yours to think of what is possible if we get a good president with a spinless Congress in Republican control.

But yet you want to tell me that I'M listening to the media?????

So don't tell me. Like it's not obvious. You are buying off on the negativism steam roller theory to the point you can't see anything good with this nation any longer. Do Conservatives trash this nation left and right? No.

That's why we have a majority in the House and Senate. What's your answer for that?

It was pointless. A wasted effort. The GOP confirmed lawless persons who asserted their right to violate the Constitution to high office and funded every unConstitutional dictatorial power-grab this regime has made. We might as well have left the Democrats in total control of Congress for all the fruits the GOP have wrought.

So you think it would have been better to keep Nancy Pelosi and Harry Ried in control. That resolves a number of questions.

I don't like for a moment what the Republicans in Congress are doing, but I'm not stupid enough to think Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi would be better. Obviously, self-admittedly, you are.

The GOP have legitimized and legalized treason to the Constitution and the rule of law. They are willing accomplices. Even going back to Bush II and 2006 if you want to. Your 'R' majority MEANS NOTHING.

You are slower than molasses in January. Yes, I believe they have. Any idea what Reid and Pelosi would have done by now? Do you think they would have prevented Obama from doing anything? The sad fact is, they would have come up with their own treachery to augment his. No the Republicans aren't doing their job on Capital Hill. I complain about it all the time. None the less, I never said they were the answer to our problems. For what, the fifth sixth or seventh time, I am now pointing out again that "WITH A GOOD CONSERVATIVE PRESIDENT", the Republican majority in Congress would rubber stamp corrections to what Obama has done. Executive orders alone could undo a fair number of things he has done. What a rogue president does by Executive Order, can be undone by Executive Order.

As to the point you continually pound your drum to, there isn't another viable alternative than the Republican Party "Vehicle" right now. No other party that is legitimately registered and viable in fifty states, can get a guy elected to the Presidency. Even if they could and 90% of the members of Congress were not of that party, that president would have a very hard time getting anything through. He would have natural opposition from both parties on Capital Hill.

I shouldn't have to, but I'll explain the significance of this. You see, you can roll on the floor kicking and screaming all you like. You can spit, throw temper tantrums and curse to your heart's content, it's still going to take a Republican majority on Capital Hill, and a solid Conservative in the White House to get this nation turned around. And it can be done, however it cannot be done with people like you.

If you can't help, shut up and get the _ out of the way.

They are part and party to an oligarchy that has overthrown the Republic in a velvet coup that people like you pretend did not happen. Even worse, you then lecture those of us who know what time it is that we are misguided and that things will get better 'easily' if we just elect more Republicans.

LOL, you are so stuck on this nonsense, that it's just a hoot to watch the steam pouring out of that empty head of yours.

Go ahead and think I am a party loyalist and simply want more Republicans at any cost. Despite my trashing the RNC every time the subject comes up, think as you want. Don't read what I have written and grasp the concepts I'm providing. Just go off on your idiotic tangent, and make a fool of yourself.

Only co-conspirators or complete ignoramuses talk that way.

Yes, I'm a very big co-conspirator. That's why I trash Boehner and McConnell constantly on the forum. It's why I trash the RNC, the GOPe and anyone else who goes Leftist.

Yeah, just ask around. You'll soon find out I'm a deep undercover agent from a Soros affiliate, in your dreams.

Let me know how that moving on is coming as the rest of us strive to get solid people elected

You make me laugh. You are nothing but a Practitioner of insanity. That is all you know. Look bub, Our moving on will keep us alive and able to resist what is coming.

I don't know whether to laugh at you or cry for you. You are one delusional idiot. We all should have a fall back plan. I do. My aren't I proud of myself. (hack, cough, LOL) Does that mean I fundamentally cash out and refuse a gift horse if one can be found?

What's the benefit of denying the truth, when there is a path that can lead to a vast improvement in our nation?

Is it because you have so convinced yourself that this nation is over, than you simply can't admit you might be wrong? That's the truth of it right there!

You and your likeminded pollyannas…. not so much. Your idea of 'fighting' is limited to voting whomever Rove tells you to vote for, as if we were somehow still a Republic and not a recreation of the Soviet Union. Go ahead, lick the GOP palms that assuage you because posterity will certainly never remember you were our countryman.

I have been here for eighteen years, trashing Rove years before anyone else would. Now you tell me I'm a Rove diciple. Let me guess what your girlhood favorite movie was. Ahhhhh, Pollyanna perhaps?

I refused to vote for Bush the first time or for McCain. I didn't think Kerry should be president or Obama should get a second term. That's a real devote of Rove huh..

Isn't it the job of Christians to oppose evil? I don't see any place in my Bible where it says, "Give up. I am less powerful than the he who has dominion over evil."

I do not find anywhere in scripture where opposing evil is limited to voting for Republicans.

You really don't have a clue do you. You're nowhere even close on a number of points here. You're off on a party supporting safari here that has no legs. It's a bust you moron.

I don't advocate voting for everyone with an (R) behind their name. I do trash liberal Republicans. I was one of a few people on this forum who tried to tell folks McCain should not be re-elected to the Senate in 2010. I was also a person who said a person who would endorse him and lie to Conservative groups about him, was not my idea of leadership material.

You are so far off track here, you'd need a map of the Milky Way to find your way home.

Notwithstanding the fact that the bible is very clear that a nation of God's people who practice the kinds of evil that we are - is a nation that He will bring to utter ruination and destruction for our collective and national sins.

Not withstanding that God interceded on behalf of Israel a number of times after it repented. You are aware of that right?

Deuteronomy 28:15- to end of chapter comes to mind.

What mind? I've seen no evidence of one.

But you appear to be one of those whom Isaiah 30:10 speaks of.

Let me guess. In your opinion right? As if...

This from the guy that would rather believe I'm a Republican die-hard, than just read and admit to common sense.