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To: DoughtyOne

You completely misunderstood. I did not imply Reagan WAS a dictator. I’m saying that in order to ‘turn things around’, the ‘next Reagan’ would have to act as a dictator in order to even slow down what the Marxist/Fascists are doing in their velvet coup.

NOT

GONNA

HAPPEN.

This IS NOT the same country it was back in 1980 - hell - the Democrats themselves are no longer the same. Where does this pollyannish unicorn fantasy come from that says we can have a Reagan Part Deux???

Reagan was a product of his time and this country’s culture. That’s all gone now. We have overt Marxists/Fascists where the Ass Party once stood, and Liberal Democrats where Reagan once stood as a party. We’ve already been fundamentally transformed, what about that do you folks fail to grasp? As Obama’s Amnesty gets implemented - we have not a prayer to get it back to the kind of culture or people that selected Reagan to Administer the Executive, not that our votes will count in a mob-run nation of institutionalized corruption at the highest levels on down.

So another Reagan is not possible, and ‘turning things around’ will require that which few to none in politics or the public will have the balls or stomach for.

You are hoping for a messiah to ‘turn things around’. Top on down is NOT how this nation was forged. It was always from the bottom on up. This people and culture are NOT going to select or allow someone to fix what they are grown accustomed. They will suffer evil, while evil is sufferable rather than right themselves and abolish the forms to which they are become accustomed.

I voted for Reagan - none of us saw him as a savior. He was the right man at the right time - but back then, we were still America even under Carter. We saw Jiimmah as a disaster and an embarrassment - not a Zool The Destructor as we have in the Obama regime.

Today we are not even a shadow of what we were when Reagan beat the Peanut farmer. Half our population sees government as god, and is on sustenance from the very beast it feeds our money to. It is nearly wholly ignorant of our foundations and can care less about the very principles of liberty unless it comes out of a can, a bottle, an iPhone and is provided subsidies for all of it.

Presidents are a reflection of the people and the culture, same as the Reps they “elect”. We lost the culture first - now the nation itself is following.

And be warned - it is in times like this that false christs and false messiahs rise up for power’s sake and take advantage of misery with promises they have no intention of keeping. When a people are ready, A leader will appear.

We are not ready.

We have to recapture our history and heritage first - and we have decades of work ahead of us barring any external event that changes everything.


51 posted on 03/11/2015 7:50:41 PM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: INVAR
You completely misunderstood. I did not imply Reagan WAS a dictator. I’m saying that in order to ‘turn things around’, the ‘next Reagan’ would have to act as a dictator in order to even slow down what the Marxist/Fascists are doing in their velvet coup.

NOT GONNA HAPPEN.

I didn't misunderstand you.  I merely pointed out that in Reagan's day he was opposed by the majority.  He had opposition in the Democrat House and Senate.  He had considerable opposition within his own party.

IT DID HAPPEN.  It can happen again.

If the president uses the bully pulpit and connects with the people like Reagan did, it will.  That's all Reagan had to do.  Obama turned things in one direction.  Another man can turn it again.


This IS NOT the same country it was back in 1980 - hell - the Democrats themselves are no longer the same. Where does this pollyannish unicorn fantasy come from that says we can have a Reagan Part Deux???

The only insult that is relevant here, is one that focuses on the futility of saying, "It can't happen, so why try?"

Reagan was a product of his time and this country’s culture. That’s all gone now. We have overt Marxists/Fascists where the Ass Party once stood, and Liberal Democrats where Reagan once stood as a party.

Reagan was not the titular head of the Republican Party.  George Bush was.  You forget much if you don't remember that Reagan was detested by the party.  They tried to silence him, and he woudln't have any part of it.  The Republican Party of his day had already changed.  It wasn't the party of Goldwater.  It wanted nothing to do with Reagan or anyone like him. So you tell me, were people pollyannish uncorn fantasy fanatics to back Reagan?  Will they be to back Cruz or someone better?  No.

We’ve already been fundamentally transformed, what about that do you folks fail to grasp?

What part of, "If you don't try, you will accomplish nothing." do you not quite grasp there?  Not only do you reject the mere notion of trying, you take your time to stop and insult people who are willing to try.  Pardon me for asking, but is that you James (Carville).

As Obama’s Amnesty gets implemented - we have not a prayer to get it back to the kind of culture or people that selected Reagan to Administer the Executive, not that our votes will count in a mob-run nation of institutionalized corruption at the highest levels on down.

So what do you plan to do about it, go on Conservative forums and trash anyone who says the nation is worth the effort?  What are you doing here if this is your take on things?  You're wasting your time reading Conservatives talk of working hard to better this nation.  Why?  You are convinced it can't happen.  Why not leave folks in peace here and withdraw into your own fortress and give up.  No wait, you alread did that last part.

So another Reagan is not possible, and ‘turning things around’ will require that which few to none in politics or the public will have the balls or stomach for.

Which is stand up for the right, and drive through what you believe in.  Reagan wasn't a dictator.  We won't have to have one now either.  That was the point, and so you are the one who misunderstood me.

You are hoping for a messiah to ‘turn things around’. Top on down is NOT how this nation was forged. It was always from the bottom on up. This people and culture are NOT going to select or allow someone to fix what they are grown accustomed. They will suffer evil, while evil is sufferable rather than right themselves and abolish the forms to which they are become accustomed.

Blah blah blah blah blah...

"I can't.  You can't.  We can't.  They can't.  OMG, what am I going to do?"

Once again, why are you wasting your time here?

Was Reagan a massiah?  Evidently you think so, because he did the exact thing you say can't be done, and you are wrong.

I voted for Reagan - none of us saw him as a savior. He was the right man at the right time - but back then, we were still America even under Carter. We saw Jiimmah as a disaster and an embarrassment - not a Zool The Destructor as we have in the Obama regime.

Ok, exactly, none of us saw Reagan as a massiah.  It didn't take one then.  It won't take one now.  Cruz (for example) gets elected.  He comes up with policies that he wishes to drive foreward.  The leaders of the Republicans in the House and Senate adopt his policies.  Having the majority (if they do), they develop and pass legislation which he signs to roll back decades of bad policy and programs.  What is impossible about that?

Cruz won't just stand there like a rock, like McCain and Romney did.  He will point out the other side's failures, something that hasn't been done in public for several decades.  Bush was silent as a church-mouse, and after him came McShame and Romney.  Even Dole didn't put up a real fight.  And the First Bush didn't either.  It has been since 1984 that we had a candidate that was willing to take it to the opposition in any real meaningful way.  In 2016, that will be 32 years prior, almost three decades, just having something as simple as a vocal opposition.  Right there is why we haven't prevailed.  We gave nobody a reason to vote for our man.

Your mistake is that you have forgotten that we can actually fight back.  And when we do with sound policy, it will prevail.  Even without fighting back Bush squeaked out wins, and McCain and Romney didn't lose by that much considering.  I mean McStain even endorsed the opposition weeks before the election.

With someone who is articulate and able to mix it up and willing to do so, it's a whole new ball game.

Today we are not even a shadow of what we were when Reagan beat the Peanut farmer. Half our population sees government as god, and is on sustenance from the very beast it feeds our money to. It is nearly wholly ignorant of our foundations and can care less about the very principles of liberty unless it comes out of a can, a bottle, an iPhone and is provided subsidies for all of it.

Once again, if this is how you truly feel, what are you wasting your time here for?  You say you are convinced there's no chance.  So why not just ease the level of frustration and relax, find yourself a hobby?


Presidents are a reflection of the people and the culture, same as the Reps they “elect”. We lost the culture first - now the nation itself is following.

You wait until Cruz (or someone else) starts talking about the invisible jobless under Obama.  You wait until he talks about the military and how Obama has trashed it.  You wait until he talks about other things that matter.

This nation hasn't changed as much as you think when it comes to bread and butter politics.


A good man is all it takes.  It's all it has ever taken.

And be warned - it is in times like this that false christs and false messiahs rise up for power’s sake and take advantage of misery with promises they have no intention of keeping. When a people are ready, A leader will appear.

We are not ready.

I agree that false prophets will capitalize on this type of situation, if you let them.  And that's all Obama was essentially.  I think more people grasp that Obama has been a failure, than you think.  When Cruz (or someone else) starts talking about Black jobs before and after Obama, a lot of folks will find truth in it.

We are ready.  Obama has teed it up.
 We've got a 225 yard par five ahead.  Of course we can nominate Jeb Bush and nobody will vote for him, but failing that, we're going to take the Democrat party to the wood-shed after 2016.


This changing failed nation you speak of, this culture that has forever changed, this hopeless electorate... it just voted to make Republicans the majority in the House and Senate of the United States.

Hmmm....


We have to recapture our history and heritage first - and we have decades of work ahead of us barring any external event that changes everything.

Our history and hertitage are right where they belong, front and center of the next Conservative to change the world.

Ronald Reagan utilized them in his day, and in our day the next Conservative to inhabit the White House will do the same thing.  Grow a set.  Buck up!  All is not lost.

52 posted on 03/12/2015 12:04:11 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (The question is Jeb Bush. The answer is NO!)
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