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To: DoughtyOne
What I have is a normal sense of reality.

No, you are infected with a fatal case of Normalcy Bias, because practicing insanity in a fundamentally changed culture is not normal by any means.

If the populace at large will vote to have a majority in Congress that is Republican in both bodies, it is reasoned to believe they would also vote to place a Republican in the White House.

Are you just willfully ignorant or stupid??? We already DID THIS. The fruits of electing Republicans to both houses of Congress - is a proven exercise in insanity, futility and gross stupidity, save for less than a handful of men who are being demonized and marginalized into irrelevance.

"Vote more Republicans" is all you got, even when voting for the Oligarchy has done nothing but empower Obama's lawless dictatorship.

You have declared the nation irreconcilable at present, and think that re-education must be done before it can be righted.

Are you blind as well as deaf??? This culture and nation at present is a testament to the exact opposite of what you say it is. This people will end up destroyed for a lack of knowledge and understanding of our foundations. That is REALITY. That is biblical. That is historical. You choose not to see it.

But willfully ignorant party loyalists like yourself are stuck on pretending everything is just fine and good, and all we need to do is vote for more Republicans and magically - everything will work itself out and we will be saved!

It is at a low point to be sure, but it is salvagable. It is quite easily I would add.

The debt alone negates your unicorn-farting-rainbow-skittles fantasy, notwithstanding a dictatorship that has been funded, confirmed, defended and approved by the very party you seem to think is going to save us "quite easily".

Clueless does not begin to describe your view of our current reality.

Honestly, you are having a bit of a problem discerning who has a firm grip on reality and who doesn't. In the media we hear just what the media wants you to think. And you buy off on it lock stock and barrel.

Facts are stubborn things. Facts of everything from ObamaCare, to Amnesty to nuke treaties with Iran, refusal to impeach or use the Power of the Purse and the debt - facts which the MSM do not report about.

But yet you want to tell me that I'M listening to the media?????

That's why we have a majority in the House and Senate. What's your answer for that?

It was pointless. A wasted effort. The GOP confirmed lawless persons who asserted their right to violate the Constitution to high office and funded every unConstitutional dictatorial power-grab this regime has made. We might as well have left the Democrats in total control of Congress for all the fruits the GOP have wrought.

The GOP have legitimized and legalized treason to the Constitution and the rule of law. They are willing accomplices. Even going back to Bush II and 2006 if you want to. Your 'R' majority MEANS NOTHING.

They are part and party to an oligarchy that has overthrown the Republic in a velvet coup that people like you pretend did not happen. Even worse, you then lecture those of us who know what time it is that we are misguided and that things will get better 'easily' if we just elect more Republicans.

Only co-conspirators or complete ignoramuses talk that way.

Let me know how that moving on is coming as the rest of us strive to get solid people elected

You make me laugh. You are nothing but a Practitioner of insanity. That is all you know. Look bub, Our moving on will keep us alive and able to resist what is coming.

You and your likeminded pollyannas…. not so much. Your idea of 'fighting' is limited to voting whomever Rove tells you to vote for, as if we were somehow still a Republic and not a recreation of the Soviet Union. Go ahead, lick the GOP palms that assuage you because posterity will certainly never remember you were our countryman.

Isn't it the job of Christians to oppose evil? I don't see any place in my Bible where it says, "Give up. I am less powerful than the he who has dominion over evil."

I do not find anywhere in scripture where opposing evil is limited to voting for Republicans.

Notwithstanding the fact that the bible is very clear that a nation of God's people who practice the kinds of evil that we are - is a nation that He will bring to utter ruination and destruction for our collective and national sins.

Deuteronomy 28:15- to end of chapter comes to mind.

But you appear to be one of those whom Isaiah 30:10 speaks of.

58 posted on 03/13/2015 8:09:44 PM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: INVAR
What I have is a normal sense of reality.

No, you are infected with a fatal case of Normalcy Bias, because practicing insanity in a fundamentally changed culture is not normal by any means.

First, I would like to thank you for one of the most humorous exchanges I've been involved in, in months if not years.

You should have been in the olympics, because your ability and inclination to jump to conclusions is second to none.

Sadly, your abilty to read and comprehend what you are reading is demonstrably non-existant.

Normalcy bias?  Then I guess it's just not possible for someone to disagree with you on point, unless they are severely flawed.  And so you toss that out so that you don't have to think about what they say.  You just dismiss their comments.  

If the populace at large will vote to have a majority in Congress that is Republican in both bodies, it is reasoned to believe they would also vote to place a Republican in the White House.

Are you just willfully ignorant or stupid??? We already DID THIS. The fruits of electing Republicans to both houses of Congress - is a proven exercise in insanity, futility and gross stupidity, save for less than a handful of men who are being demonized and marginalized into irrelevance.

"Vote more Republicans" is all you got, even when voting for the Oligarchy has done nothing but empower Obama's lawless dictatorship.

God you are slow on the uptake.  In my previous posts to you, I explained that with a good president leading them, the Republicans in Congress could be useful.  I don't disagree with your comments on what the Republcans in Congress are doing now.  I never said I did.  Not to be disuaded, you couldn't grasp that point.  I have to actually slap you up side the head with it here, becuase you couldn't discern meaning from what I wrote to you before.  Why is that?

Who sets policy?  Is it the president or is it Congress?  If a Republican president sends over policy directives to Congress, his will, not theirs will prevail.  Very seldom, in fact I don't remember ever seeing it, do members of the same party thumb their nose at a president from their own party.  A president Cruz (for example) would set policy and a majority Republican Congress would fall in line.

You have declared the nation irreconcilable at present, and think that re-education must be done before it can be righted.

Are you blind as well as deaf??? This culture and nation at present is a testament to the exact opposite of what you say it is. This people will end up destroyed for a lack of knowledge and understanding of our foundations. That is REALITY. That is biblical. That is historical. You choose not to see it.

That is Biblical?  For crying out loud, please tell me where the United States is discussed in the Bible.  Then hone it down to where it is said that in 2017 President Cruz will be cursed among men, to find it impossible to pass a good wholesome agenda.  Please oh mighty Cong, give me chapter and verse.

Man you are a one note ding-bat.  You wax rhapsodic about our society changing.  You say that it is not savagable.  When told that the same people you trash are in fact willing to put Republicans in power, you ignore the glaring implications.

Once again, for the slow of thinking.  If the public will put a majority of Republicans in Congress, they are also capable of putting a Republican in as President.  Why do I have to keep telling you this.  Why do I have to take you by the hand and lead you to the truth of this?  Why are you incapable of grasping that with a good solid Republican President and a Republican majority in Congress, things can be turned around?  Are you simply afraid to admit this makes sense?  Are you too ignorant to realize it does?

I'm beginning to believe the latter is the case.


But willfully ignorant party loyalists like yourself are stuck on pretending everything is just fine and good, and all we need to do is vote for more Republicans and magically - everything will work itself out and we will be saved!

Now you are reducing this to a matter of party loyalists.  You really are a moron.  Nowhere have I advocated for voting for just any Republican.  I have instead mentioned that if we can get a solid Conservative installed as president, he can lead the Republicans in Congress back toward the promised land.  

Please point me to any place where I stated we had to vote for Republicans no matter what?  I don't do it.  I don't advocate for it.  I've only been posting this fact on the forum for the last 18 years.  I openly trashed McCain up until about six weeks before the election, even after he had been nominated.


It is at a low point to be sure, but it is salvagable. It is quite easily I would add.


The debt alone negates your unicorn-farting-rainbow-skittles fantasy, notwithstanding a dictatorship that has been funded, confirmed, defended and approved by the very party you seem to think is going to save us "quite easily".

You are incredibly stupid.  I hate to break it to you, but with a solid Republican in the office of the Presidency, it wouldn't be 18 months before we would be running a balanced budget.  We would be paying down that debt in short order.

This situation is primed perfectly for a good President to exploit.  We have around 40 million people out of work in this nation.  Do I need to tell you what the increased tax income stream would be like, if they were put to work?  Do I have to tell you what the decreased drain on the treasury from public services would be?

Good policy will put people back to work.  Good policy will see our welfare rolls reduced by about 75%.  Good policy will see a massive wave of freed up and increased funds so that this nation could be righted with ease.

Let me guess, you with all your incredible wisdom were unaware of any of this.

Clueless does not begin to describe your view of our current reality.

Yes, well the word clueless does come to mind doesn't it.

Honestly, you are having a bit of a problem discerning who has a firm grip on reality and who doesn't. In the media we hear just what the media wants you to think. And you buy off on it lock stock and barrel.

Facts are stubborn things. Facts of everything from ObamaCare, to Amnesty to nuke treaties with Iran, refusal to impeach or use the Power of the Purse and the debt - facts which the MSM do not report about.

Yes, and even stubborn things change over time.  Yawn.  Yes Obama has been a real disaster, and yes the Republicans in Congress don't have a spine.  Tell me something I didn't know.  Despite this, try and use what's left of that brain of yours to think of what is possible if we get a good president with a spinless Congress in Republican control.

But yet you want to tell me that I'M listening to the media?????

So don't tell me.  Like it's not obvious.  You are buying off on the negativism steam roller theory to the point you can't see anything good with this nation any longer.  Do Conservatives trash this nation left and right?  No.  

That's why we have a majority in the House and Senate. What's your answer for that?

It was pointless. A wasted effort. The GOP confirmed lawless persons who asserted their right to violate the Constitution to high office and funded every unConstitutional dictatorial power-grab this regime has made. We might as well have left the Democrats in total control of Congress for all the fruits the GOP have wrought.

So you think it would have been better to keep Nancy Pelosi and Harry Ried in control.  That resolves a number of questions.

I don't like for a moment what the Republicans in Congress are doing, but I'm not stupid enough to think Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi would be better.  Obviously, self-admittedly, you are.


The GOP have legitimized and legalized treason to the Constitution and the rule of law. They are willing accomplices. Even going back to Bush II and 2006 if you want to. Your 'R' majority MEANS NOTHING.

You are slower than molasses in January.  Yes, I believe they have.  Any idea what Reid and Pelosi would have done by now?  Do you think they would have prevented Obama from doing anything?  The sad fact is, they would have come up with their own treachery to augment his.  No the Republicans aren't doing their job on Capital Hill.  I complain about it all the time.  None the less, I never said they were the answer to our problems.  For what, the fifth sixth or seventh time, I am now pointing out again that "WITH A GOOD CONSERVATIVE PRESIDENT", the Republican majority in Congress would rubber stamp corrections to what Obama has done.  Executive orders alone could undo a fair number of things he has done.  What a rogue president does by Executive Order, can be undone by Executive Order.

As to the point you continually pound your drum to, there isn't another viable alternative than the Republican Party "Vehicle" right now.  No other party that is legitimately registered and viable in fifty states, can get a guy elected to the Presidency.  Even if they could and 90% of the members of Congress were not of that party, that president would have a very hard time getting anything through.  He would have natural opposition from both parties on Capital Hill.

I shouldn't have to, but I'll explain the significance of this.  You see, you can roll on the floor kicking and screaming all you like.  You can spit, throw temper tantrums and curse to your heart's content, it's still going to take a Republican majority on Capital Hill, and a solid Conservative in the White House to get this nation turned around.  And it can be done, however it cannot be done with people like you.

If you can't help, shut up and get the _ out of the way.

They are part and party to an oligarchy that has overthrown the Republic in a velvet coup that people like you pretend did not happen. Even worse, you then lecture those of us who know what time it is that we are misguided and that things will get better 'easily' if we just elect more Republicans.

LOL, you are so stuck on this nonsense, that it's just a hoot to watch the steam pouring out of that empty head of yours.

Go ahead and think I am a party loyalist and simply want more Republicans at any cost.  Despite my trashing the RNC every time the subject comes up, think as you want.  Don't read what I have written and grasp the concepts I'm providing.  Just go off on your idiotic tangent, and make a fool of yourself.


Only co-conspirators or complete ignoramuses talk that way.

Yes, I'm a very big co-conspirator.  That's why I trash Boehner and McConnell constantly on the forum.  It's why I trash the RNC, the GOPe and anyone else who goes Leftist.

Yeah, just ask around.  You'll soon find out I'm a deep undercover agent from a Soros affiliate, in your dreams.


Let me know how that moving on is coming as the rest of us strive to get solid people elected

You make me laugh. You are nothing but a Practitioner of insanity. That is all you know. Look bub, Our moving on will keep us alive and able to resist what is coming.

I don't know whether to laugh at you or cry for you.  You are one delusional idiot.  We all should have a fall back plan.  I do.  My aren't I proud of myself.  (hack, cough, LOL)  Does that mean I fundamentally cash out and refuse a gift horse if one can be found?

What's the benefit of denying the truth, when there is a path that can lead to a vast improvement in our nation?

Is it because you have so convinced yourself that this nation is over, than you simply can't admit you might be wrong?  That's the truth of it right there!


You and your likeminded pollyannas…. not so much. Your idea of 'fighting' is limited to voting whomever Rove tells you to vote for, as if we were somehow still a Republic and not a recreation of the Soviet Union. Go ahead, lick the GOP palms that assuage you because posterity will certainly never remember you were our countryman.

I have been here for eighteen years, trashing Rove years before anyone else would.  Now you tell me I'm a Rove diciple.  Let me guess what your girlhood favorite movie was.  Ahhhhh, Pollyanna perhaps?

I refused to vote for Bush the first time or for McCain.  I didn't think Kerry should be president or Obama should get a second term.  That's a real devote of Rove huh..


Isn't it the job of Christians to oppose evil? I don't see any place in my Bible where it says, "Give up. I am less powerful than the he who has dominion over evil."

I do not find anywhere in scripture where opposing evil is limited to voting for Republicans.

You really don't have a clue do you.  You're nowhere even close on a number of points here.  You're off on a party supporting safari here that has no legs.  It's a bust you moron.

I don't advocate voting for everyone with an (R) behind their name.  I do trash liberal Republicans.  I was one of a few people on this forum who tried to tell folks McCain should not be re-elected to the Senate in 2010.  I was also a person who said a person who would endorse him and lie to Conservative groups about him, was not my idea of leadership material.

You are so far off track here, you'd need a map of the Milky Way to find your way home.  


Notwithstanding the fact that the bible is very clear that a nation of God's people who practice the kinds of evil that we are - is a nation that He will bring to utter ruination and destruction for our collective and national sins.

Not withstanding that God interceded on behalf of Israel a number of times after it repented.  You are aware of that right?

Deuteronomy 28:15- to end of chapter comes to mind.

What mind?  I've seen no evidence of one.

But you appear to be one of those whom Isaiah 30:10 speaks of.

Let me guess.  In your opinion right?  As if...

This from the guy that would rather believe I'm a Republican die-hard, than just read and admit to common sense.

60 posted on 03/14/2015 4:27:55 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (The question is Jeb Bush. The answer is NO!)
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