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Probably won't be popular here but worth reading. Of note: "There isn’t going to be a third party. The GOP has an infrastructure that is powerful, that is effective, and that we need to take over to use to promote conservatism. We can’t build a third party from scratch without giving the liberals the country for a couple decades, at the end of which our third party is likely to be outlawed anyway."
1 posted on 03/09/2015 11:42:02 AM PDT by fifedom
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To: fifedom

You’re right, a third party is just “handing over everything” to the Democrats! AND ... the process is a long process of making changes in the GOP. Just figure on doing it for the rest of your life, and then handing it over to the kids and grandkids to keep working on it! Just keep at it and figure that it will never be completed.


2 posted on 03/09/2015 11:46:49 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: fifedom; Liz; sickoflibs; SunkenCiv; MrB
...the 2014 election victories didn’t end the war! You mean the progressives are still out there dreaming of a future full of hugs and goosestepping? You mean the GOP Establishment hasn’t just given up its power and knelt before us, begging to be forgiven for its craven crony corporatism? You mean the fight’s not over?

Ping because you're in it for the long haul too...

3 posted on 03/09/2015 11:48:35 AM PDT by GOPJ (Obama on Hillary: "I did not have TEXT with that woman"... Freeper hoosiermama)
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To: fifedom

You are right. The GOPe has an infrastructure that is powerful, that is effective at defeating conservatives. The GOPe is a lost cause.


4 posted on 03/09/2015 11:48:53 AM PDT by cableguymn (We need a redneck in the white house....)
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To: fifedom

It’s over Kurt. The GOP-E and the Rats win.


7 posted on 03/09/2015 12:03:16 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: fifedom

A couple of points

1. Waaaay to many people don’t understand 2 words and the relationship between them, Ideology & Politics. For them Ideology is all that matters.

2. On a related note, too many have a very narrow definition of what a Conservative is. Generally speaking (for them) its someone who agrees with them all the time, anyone else is an (evil, traitorous) RINO.

3. They live in a world that is Black & White...nothing but Absolutes. The bad news (for them) is the rest of the world doesn’t operate that way.....more like a Gray Scale.


10 posted on 03/09/2015 12:17:18 PM PDT by Valin (I'm not completely worthless. I can be used as a bad example.)
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To: fifedom

If I vote Democrat, the liberals win.

If I vote Republican, I get the current GOP house and senate leadership.....and the liberals win.

If I don’t vote at all, the liberals win.

If I vote 3rd party, the liberals win. But if I and a steadily increasing number of voters vote 3rd party, there’s at least a very slight chance that someday, we’ll get our constitutional government back.

I weep for my country.


12 posted on 03/09/2015 12:20:50 PM PDT by RepRivFarm ("During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." -George Orwell)
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To: fifedom

Probably won’t be popular here but worth reading. Of note: “There isn’t going to be a third party. The GOP has an infrastructure that is powerful, that is effective, and that we need to take over to use to promote conservatism. We can’t build a third party from scratch without giving the liberals the country for a couple decades, at the end of which our third party is likely to be outlawed anyway.”

...

What we need is a second party.


16 posted on 03/09/2015 12:33:21 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: fifedom

This is a great article


19 posted on 03/09/2015 12:43:01 PM PDT by Democrat_media (Obama illegaly imposed socialist net neutrality on the Internet to ruin it)
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To: fifedom

Probably won’t be popular here but worth reading. Of note: “There isn’t going to be a third party. The GOP has an infrastructure that is powerful, that is effective, and that we need to take over to use to promote conservatism. We can’t build a third party from scratch without giving the liberals the country for a couple decades, at the end of which our third party is likely to be outlawed anyway.”

There are several things that need to be done by conservatves inside the GOP to take back the party from the big government types.

One of the overlooked one is that we need to force a lot of the RINOs to become democrats, since their policies are not that diofferent we shoudl appeal to their egos and try to convince them to become Democrats.

From a “size of government” perspective, there is no contrast between the parties.


30 posted on 03/09/2015 1:49:47 PM PDT by GraceG (Protect the Border from Illegal Aliens, Don't Protect Illegal Alien Boarders...)
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To: fifedom

Also posted/discussed earlier here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3265829/posts


38 posted on 03/09/2015 2:13:48 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: fifedom

39 posted on 03/09/2015 2:17:11 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: fifedom

“Every nation gets the government it deserves.”

- Joseph de Maistre

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Joseph_de_Maistre


49 posted on 03/09/2015 3:13:57 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Bush / Clinton 2016! Clinton / Bush 2020! Uniparty Forever!)
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To: fifedom

You are likely right, but the problem is there are no good options. Those that get sent to Washington tend to get Washington washed in no time at all.


52 posted on 03/09/2015 3:31:55 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: fifedom

He’s spot on. We need to work the politics and the voting in Congress to force RINOs and Dems in vulnerable seats to vote with us instead of against us. It can be done using conservative populism. We need to use it and fast.


56 posted on 03/09/2015 4:34:16 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: fifedom

The GOP has a chasm about as wide as the Grand Canyon


75 posted on 03/10/2015 10:51:57 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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