You’re right, a third party is just “handing over everything” to the Democrats! AND ... the process is a long process of making changes in the GOP. Just figure on doing it for the rest of your life, and then handing it over to the kids and grandkids to keep working on it! Just keep at it and figure that it will never be completed.
Ping because you're in it for the long haul too...
You are right. The GOPe has an infrastructure that is powerful, that is effective at defeating conservatives. The GOPe is a lost cause.
It’s over Kurt. The GOP-E and the Rats win.
A couple of points
1. Waaaay to many people don’t understand 2 words and the relationship between them, Ideology & Politics. For them Ideology is all that matters.
2. On a related note, too many have a very narrow definition of what a Conservative is. Generally speaking (for them) its someone who agrees with them all the time, anyone else is an (evil, traitorous) RINO.
3. They live in a world that is Black & White...nothing but Absolutes. The bad news (for them) is the rest of the world doesn’t operate that way.....more like a Gray Scale.
If I vote Democrat, the liberals win.
If I vote Republican, I get the current GOP house and senate leadership.....and the liberals win.
If I don’t vote at all, the liberals win.
If I vote 3rd party, the liberals win. But if I and a steadily increasing number of voters vote 3rd party, there’s at least a very slight chance that someday, we’ll get our constitutional government back.
I weep for my country.
Probably won’t be popular here but worth reading. Of note: “There isnt going to be a third party. The GOP has an infrastructure that is powerful, that is effective, and that we need to take over to use to promote conservatism. We cant build a third party from scratch without giving the liberals the country for a couple decades, at the end of which our third party is likely to be outlawed anyway.”
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What we need is a second party.
This is a great article
Probably won’t be popular here but worth reading. Of note: “There isnt going to be a third party. The GOP has an infrastructure that is powerful, that is effective, and that we need to take over to use to promote conservatism. We cant build a third party from scratch without giving the liberals the country for a couple decades, at the end of which our third party is likely to be outlawed anyway.”
There are several things that need to be done by conservatves inside the GOP to take back the party from the big government types.
One of the overlooked one is that we need to force a lot of the RINOs to become democrats, since their policies are not that diofferent we shoudl appeal to their egos and try to convince them to become Democrats.
From a “size of government” perspective, there is no contrast between the parties.
“Every nation gets the government it deserves.”
- Joseph de Maistre
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Joseph_de_Maistre
You are likely right, but the problem is there are no good options. Those that get sent to Washington tend to get Washington washed in no time at all.
He’s spot on. We need to work the politics and the voting in Congress to force RINOs and Dems in vulnerable seats to vote with us instead of against us. It can be done using conservative populism. We need to use it and fast.
The GOP has a chasm about as wide as the Grand Canyon