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Around Half A Million 'Ghost Guns' On California's Streets
www.kmjnow.com ^ | March 3, 2015 | Unknown

Posted on 03/04/2015 8:40:03 AM PST by Enterprise

FRESNO (KMJ) -- Federal agents say there could be as many as half a million untraceable guns on the streets of California.

They're called 'ghost guns' - firearms with no serial numbers and no means of identifying them.

They're turning up at crime scenes - and investigators then have nothing to go on to find out who was involved.

"People are buying these knowing there's no paper trial", says ATF Agent Graham Barlowe. "There's no way to trace it back to them - there's no accountability on their part.

"When you're asking yourself why would someone spend $5000 on a machine gun they're purchasing from a convicted felon, a gang member. I think the answers are all bad".

(Excerpt) Read more at kmjnow.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: California
KEYWORDS: banglist; california; crime; firearms; untraceable
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To: Enterprise

Why, there could be a hundred thousand BILLION such guns on the streets of California! We’ll never know the exact number because they’re all ghosts and they’re untraceable!

(facepalm)


21 posted on 03/04/2015 8:56:25 AM PST by MeganC (You can ignore reality, but reality won't ignore you.)
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To: Enterprise

I sure would hate to get shot by a machine gun with no serial number. That could be real bad.


22 posted on 03/04/2015 8:56:37 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Enterprise
"When you're asking yourself why would someone spend $5000 on a machine gun they're purchasing from a convicted felon Machine gun???????????? What a bunch of garbage. YOU KNOW if a machine gun has been used in cali it would be all over the news.
23 posted on 03/04/2015 8:57:05 AM PST by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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To: Enterprise

Jerry Brown said when he vetoed the bill that he didn’t see how a serial number was going to contribute to public safety.


24 posted on 03/04/2015 8:57:20 AM PST by MeganC (You can ignore reality, but reality won't ignore you.)
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To: Yogafist

Automatic rifle is not a machine gun.


25 posted on 03/04/2015 8:57:21 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: Enterprise

What about “Ghost People”?

Who’s to say any non-citizen is who he says he is?

They don’t have birth certificates or other government I.D.’s from their country of origin.

further, they never show up at hearings they are suppose to.

I’ll bet there are more Ghost People than there are ghost guns.


26 posted on 03/04/2015 8:58:36 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: DCBryan1

I don’t believe Jeremy Clark is being investigated for NFA violations.


27 posted on 03/04/2015 9:00:35 AM PST by Hugh the Scot ( Total War)
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To: Enterprise

Another trumped up issue or False Flag operation to set the scene to “justify” more gun control?

Let’s call this one “Son Of Fast and Furious”.


28 posted on 03/04/2015 9:02:04 AM PST by Iron Munro (Mark Steyn: "fundamentally transformed" is a euphemism for "wrecked beyond repair.")
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To: C19fan

Interesting that you mentioned the Philippines. It was State Senator Yee who was indicted on charges of conspiring to import weapons from the Philippines.


29 posted on 03/04/2015 9:02:05 AM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Enterprise

What is a ghost gun? A pre-1968 .22 rifle generally has no serial number, because it never had one.


30 posted on 03/04/2015 9:03:38 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: C19fan
Watched a show about “Ghost Guns” on NatGeo. The show followed the life cycle of a knock off of a M1911 made in the Philippines, smuggled into the US, then when the gun got too “hot”, used in too many crimes, the gun was smuggled into Guatemala.

Sounds just as real as the History channel show about moonshiners.

31 posted on 03/04/2015 9:05:35 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: MeganC
Jerry Brown said when he vetoed the bill that he didn’t see how a serial number was going to contribute to public safety.

Even a blind pig finds an acorn, once in a while.

He's still a moon-bat gun-grabbing greenie idiot.

32 posted on 03/04/2015 9:06:16 AM PST by OldSmaj (obama is a worthless mohametan. Impeach his ass now!)
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To: Enterprise

Hey this can’t be true! Eric Holder told Congressional Committees that when he found out about the ATF running guns he put a stop to it.


33 posted on 03/04/2015 9:10:04 AM PST by VRWCarea51 (The original 1998 version)
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To: DCBryan1
This may help.

I've been wanting me some of those 30 magazine clips...

34 posted on 03/04/2015 9:11:59 AM PST by Noumenon (Resistance. Restoration. Retribution.)
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To: BenLurkin

No, an “automatic rifle” IS a machine gun.
A semi-automatic rifle is NOT a machine gun.


35 posted on 03/04/2015 9:16:24 AM PST by Notthemomma
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To: DCBryan1

If I ever get my CNC mill up and running, everyone can GD Guarantee there won’t be a number on the whole thing


36 posted on 03/04/2015 9:18:38 AM PST by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: SampleMan
Sounds just as real as the History channel show about moonshiners.

Well, I can't speak for that silly crap, but I do know that some high skill level 1911's have come out of the Philippines and out of Pakistan and Afghanistan.

It doesn't take much to make a 1911...simple construction, easily milled, even on "Harbor Freight" crap mills from China.

The hardest part is the barrel and the recoil spring.

I once saw a barrel being constructed out of a forged billet of steel...they drilled a pilot hole and slammed a rifling tool through it, then turned it down on a lathe.

I'm sure it was not quite a match-level weapon, but it will still fling a bullet and kill a man.

In Viet Nam, they would make a barrel by hammering a piece of steel around a solid piece of steel.

I still do not know how they got the rifling in there, but the pistol would damned well kill you.

The AK-47 is the most copied weapon in the world, with a huge majority of them being made in the back rooms of shacks in the rabbit warren back streets of Kabul, Baghdad, Mosul, you name it.

It is not difficult to do and no amount of griping and groaning and pissing and moaning from the ATF or the damned UN or anyone else is going to stop it.

37 posted on 03/04/2015 9:22:39 AM PST by OldSmaj (obama is a worthless mohametan. Impeach his ass now!)
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To: Notthemomma
Well I'm curious. Is this

a machine gun?
38 posted on 03/04/2015 9:23:30 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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The FReepathon Is Almost Over

Please Donate And End It

39 posted on 03/04/2015 9:25:41 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Enterprise
Why would anyone put a gun on the street?

Streets are paved with hard, dirty surfaces that would scratch your nice gun.

40 posted on 03/04/2015 9:25:56 AM PST by Last Dakotan
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