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Around Half A Million 'Ghost Guns' On California's Streets
www.kmjnow.com ^ | March 3, 2015 | Unknown

Posted on 03/04/2015 8:40:03 AM PST by Enterprise

FRESNO (KMJ) -- Federal agents say there could be as many as half a million untraceable guns on the streets of California.

They're called 'ghost guns' - firearms with no serial numbers and no means of identifying them.

They're turning up at crime scenes - and investigators then have nothing to go on to find out who was involved.

"People are buying these knowing there's no paper trial", says ATF Agent Graham Barlowe. "There's no way to trace it back to them - there's no accountability on their part.

"When you're asking yourself why would someone spend $5000 on a machine gun they're purchasing from a convicted felon, a gang member. I think the answers are all bad".

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: California
KEYWORDS: banglist; california; crime; firearms; untraceable
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Here's the shocker!

"A bill to legally ban the selling, manufacturing, buying, or trafficking of ghost guns found its way to Governor Brown's desk at the end of last year - but he vetoed it soon afterwards."

1 posted on 03/04/2015 8:40:03 AM PST by Enterprise
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To: Enterprise

I wish every gun was a “ghost gun”. Serial numbers should only concern manufacturer and insurance purposes, not law enforcement.


2 posted on 03/04/2015 8:43:22 AM PST by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!!)
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To: Enterprise

The REAL aim here is 3D printing.


3 posted on 03/04/2015 8:43:25 AM PST by gaijin
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To: Enterprise

500,000 illegal immigrants? Ha!! they have 5-6 million in California alone!


4 posted on 03/04/2015 8:44:11 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: Enterprise

I’ve lived in SoCal for a decades and have never heard of a machine gun being used in a crime.

Never.


5 posted on 03/04/2015 8:44:19 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: bang_list; Travis McGee; Old Sarge; Joe Brower

M855 going, going, gone. Now our “ghost guns”. You can have my “ghost gun” when you pry it from my ghosted hands.

BTW...WTF is a ghost gun?


6 posted on 03/04/2015 8:44:59 AM PST by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!!)
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To: Enterprise
Federal agents say there could be as many as half a million untraceable guns on the streets of California.

Federal agents parrot the lies they are ordered to by the Washington thugs in power. No way approaching reality...as usual. Pure lies and BS, as uaual.

7 posted on 03/04/2015 8:45:02 AM PST by GoldenPup
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To: Enterprise

“People are buying these knowing there’s no paper trial”, says ATF Agent Graham Barlowe.

I really doubt he said that. Most people pronounce ‘trial’ and ‘trail’ differently.


8 posted on 03/04/2015 8:45:34 AM PST by proxy_user
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To: Enterprise

They can’t enforce the laws they already have, but some democrat wants a law named after them.


9 posted on 03/04/2015 8:46:54 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not A Matter of Opinion)
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To: Enterprise

Watched a show about “Ghost Guns” on NatGeo. The show followed the life cycle of a knock off of a M1911 made in the Philippines, smuggled into the US, then when the gun got too “hot”, used in too many crimes, the gun was smuggled into Guatemala.


10 posted on 03/04/2015 8:47:20 AM PST by C19fan
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To: Enterprise

Don’t worry! Micro-stamping will make those half million “ghost guns” disappear overnight!
snark.


11 posted on 03/04/2015 8:48:28 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Enterprise
"People are buying these knowing there's no paper trial", says ATF Agent Graham Barlowe. "There's no way to trace it back to them - there's no accountability on their part. "When you're asking yourself why would someone spend $5000 on a machine gun they're purchasing from a convicted felon, a gang member. I think the answers are all bad".

Afghan rebels were making their own guns for decades, under Third World conditions.

How many frames can an unemployed master machinist make in his basement per week? He doesn't need to make barrels, triggers, or any other part which does not have the serial number -- just the frame. All the other parts can be bought without paperwork.

It just shows the futility of thinking gun control can take guns away from gang members.

12 posted on 03/04/2015 8:49:35 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: BenLurkin
Northridge BA shootout was with an illegally converted MAK 90. No NFA paperwork. As far as we know, there have only been three(3)-five (5) instances of Title 2 NFA firearms on Form 4 or Form 3 being used in a crime.......ALL OF THEM BY COPS.

There is abuse with Form 10 guns sometimes when the new idiot (usually young) constable/sheriff buys a whole bunch of Post sample machineguns "for his personal collection" instead of for his department.

Arkansas has had three (3) Chief LEOs pinched for this. Latest one is in Searcy this week. 2010 there was a Sheriff that had a Vickers and M1917 post sample MG, and an M203/M16 built "for his department". When the chief retired, he took the post sample machineguns with him to his retirement home. THAT is a BIG NO NO. Form 10 guns stay with a 07/02 SOT or AT the department.

13 posted on 03/04/2015 8:50:38 AM PST by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!!)
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To: Enterprise
"A bill to legally ban the selling, manufacturing, buying, or trafficking of ghost guns found its way to Governor Brown's desk at the end of last year - but he vetoed it soon afterwards."

So, they want to ban something that's already illegal? Does that make it illegaler?

14 posted on 03/04/2015 8:51:32 AM PST by Disambiguator
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To: PapaBear3625

And yet here in the U.S., where we have the right to keep and bear arms, we have some of the most restrictive regulations to try to prevent us from exercising that right.


15 posted on 03/04/2015 8:51:48 AM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: BenLurkin

How about this one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejD1Gml-ZGc


16 posted on 03/04/2015 8:52:47 AM PST by Yogafist
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To: DCBryan1

Automatic rifle is NOT a machine gun.


17 posted on 03/04/2015 8:53:30 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: Disambiguator

That’s a good point. I think California has enough laws on the books that this law would be pretty much redundant.


18 posted on 03/04/2015 8:53:32 AM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Enterprise

“Ghost Gun”? Ooo that sounds scary. I’m sure some lib thought that one up and said, “Yes”! It’s super scary sounding, let’s order law enforcement to start using that term.


19 posted on 03/04/2015 8:54:02 AM PST by PilotDave (No, really, you just can't make this stuff up!!!)
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To: Enterprise

Allright G-man.

You expect me to believe people are shelling out $5,000 for machine guns?

Why?

For $30 bucks you can make many guns fully automatic....


20 posted on 03/04/2015 8:56:07 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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