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The Obama Administration’s AR-15 Ammo Ban: What’s It All About?
PowerLine ^ | February 27, 2015 | By John Hinderaker

Posted on 02/27/2015 5:12:49 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms has unveiled a new “Framework For Determining Whether Certain Projectiles Are ‘Primarily Intended For Sporting Purposes.’” Under that rather bland rubric, ATF says that it will prohibit the sale of ammunition using the M855 bullet, which includes some of the most common types of ammunition used in AR-15 rifles.

This gets rather technical, but briefly, what we are talking about here is the projectile, or bullet. The M855 bullet has a lead core and a steel tip. It is commonly used in 5.56 and .223 cartridges. ATF proposes to ban the M855 as an armor-piercing projectile under the Law Enforcement Officers Protection Act of 1986 and the Gun Control Act of 1968. These laws generally prohibit the sale of armor-piercing ammunition in order to protect law enforcement personnel who wear bullet-proof vests.

Under the statutes, whether a bullet is armor-piercing depends on its materials. A bullet made entirely from steel or certain other materials is considered armor-piercing. However, the NRA argues:

[The M855] does not, however, have a core made of the metals listed in the law; rather, it has a traditional lead core with a steel tip, and therefore should never have been considered “armor piercing.”

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To: Brad from Tennessee

21 posted on 02/27/2015 6:39:30 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not A Matter of Opinion)
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To: Pietro

You are EXACTLY right.

Why the h311 do we let them frame reality??!

The 2nd Ammendment is about the people’s responsibility to stop tyrants !!

That’s not a “sport”.


22 posted on 02/27/2015 6:48:43 PM PST by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good.)
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To: NormsRevenge

It is incrementalism, but they call it progressiveness. There is no difference. It is just the action of the evolution vs. revolution wings of the communist party.


23 posted on 02/27/2015 6:48:56 PM PST by MtnClimber (For views of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: kinsman redeemer

Well, not yet anyway


24 posted on 02/27/2015 6:54:55 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace- No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: WorkingClassFilth

I used to have a paperback but no more.


25 posted on 02/27/2015 6:57:35 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

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26 posted on 02/27/2015 6:59:09 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth (SAVE THIS POST: 2016 Election Results Called on February 27, 2015)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

It’s on Amazon
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27 posted on 02/27/2015 7:13:11 PM PST by Lurkina.n.Learnin (It's a shame nobama truly doesn't care about any of this. Our country, our future, he doesn't care)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
A bullet made entirely from steel or certain other materials is considered armor-piercing.

Most Russian ammo is steel core and it is the cheapest for shooting and millions of rounds are imported. That's next. Then they will ban the lead core bullets (the American stuff) to save the wildlife.

Fait Accompli...

28 posted on 02/27/2015 7:22:57 PM PST by Gritty (To assent to obvious lies is to co-operate with evil. Liars are easy to control-Theodore Dalrymple)
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To: IMR 4350

Already tested the ban on 5.45x39 Russian AK 74 ammo a few months ago worked as expected so now it’s on like Donkey Kong.


29 posted on 02/27/2015 7:23:17 PM PST by johnny reb (When in the course of human events.....)
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To: duffee

Most cops I have seen wear soft armor. Pretty much any rifle will go through that like its not even there.


30 posted on 02/27/2015 7:49:38 PM PST by jospehm20
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To: Brad from Tennessee

All the BATF has to say is it IS armor piercing. Body Armor that is. Like virtually every other rifle round.

This is where the bureaucracy is going.


31 posted on 02/27/2015 8:04:33 PM PST by headstamp 2
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To: duffee

“I believe the armor they refer to is body armor.”

Well then that covers every rifle round.


32 posted on 02/27/2015 8:06:01 PM PST by headstamp 2
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To: headstamp 2

Eric where are those Illegal Guns you had?


33 posted on 02/27/2015 8:08:31 PM PST by scooby321
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To: kinsman redeemer
The 2nd Ammendment is about the people’s responsibility to stop tyrants !!

That’s not a “sport”.

The way things are going, it might just become an American past-time... Again.

34 posted on 02/27/2015 8:54:59 PM PST by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell)
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To: johnny reb

5.45mm 7N6M is steel core, M855 is not.


35 posted on 02/27/2015 9:30:50 PM PST by jospehm20
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To: Brad from Tennessee

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman_Empire

“In the Ottoman Empire, in accordance with the Muslim dhimmi system, Christians were guaranteed limited freedoms (such as the right to worship), but were treated as second-class citizens. They were forbidden to carry weapons or ride on horseback, their houses could not overlook those of Muslims, and their religious practices would have to defer to those of Muslims, in addition to various other legal limitations.[153]”

Now I can understand why Obama, as a Marxist and a Muzzie, is pushing the gun control and getting people out of their cars.


36 posted on 02/27/2015 10:25:34 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

The main problem here is that our Congress is guilty of dereliction of duty in that it has given away it’s exclusive Constitutional power of legislation to the executive without retaining the powers of oversight and concurrence.


37 posted on 02/28/2015 3:40:46 AM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: fella

“The main problem here is that our Congress is guilty of dereliction of duty...”

The question is, what threats have been made? Who is pulling the strings behind the scenes, what has been done in the dark, in the dead of night?

Just asking.

IMHO


38 posted on 02/28/2015 4:48:01 AM PST by ripley
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To: headstamp 2

“Well then that covers every rifle round.”

Yes, I believe there are some pistol grip short barrel firearms chambered for these rounds that they are determining to be pistols. They are looking for any excuse to ban firearms and ammunition.


39 posted on 02/28/2015 5:11:02 AM PST by duffee (Dump the Chairman of the Mississippi Republican Party, joe nosef.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

It’s about the peacock president strutting around in front of his idiot base...and that’s all it’s about!!!


40 posted on 02/28/2015 5:53:19 AM PST by ontap
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