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The Obama Administration’s AR-15 Ammo Ban: What’s It All About?
PowerLine ^ | February 27, 2015 | By John Hinderaker

Posted on 02/27/2015 5:12:49 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms has unveiled a new “Framework For Determining Whether Certain Projectiles Are ‘Primarily Intended For Sporting Purposes.’” Under that rather bland rubric, ATF says that it will prohibit the sale of ammunition using the M855 bullet, which includes some of the most common types of ammunition used in AR-15 rifles.

This gets rather technical, but briefly, what we are talking about here is the projectile, or bullet. The M855 bullet has a lead core and a steel tip. It is commonly used in 5.56 and .223 cartridges. ATF proposes to ban the M855 as an armor-piercing projectile under the Law Enforcement Officers Protection Act of 1986 and the Gun Control Act of 1968. These laws generally prohibit the sale of armor-piercing ammunition in order to protect law enforcement personnel who wear bullet-proof vests.

Under the statutes, whether a bullet is armor-piercing depends on its materials. A bullet made entirely from steel or certain other materials is considered armor-piercing. However, the NRA argues:

[The M855] does not, however, have a core made of the metals listed in the law; rather, it has a traditional lead core with a steel tip, and therefore should never have been considered “armor piercing.”

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1 posted on 02/27/2015 5:12:49 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee
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To: Brad from Tennessee

It’s about gun control thru the back door.


2 posted on 02/27/2015 5:20:01 PM PST by Politically Correct (A member of the rabble in good standing)
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To: Politically Correct

And Obama knows all about coming thru the back door. Just say’n


3 posted on 02/27/2015 5:22:56 PM PST by doc1019 (Blue lives matter)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
The 2nd amendment has absolutely nothing to do w/ "sporting"

QED; unconstitutional.

4 posted on 02/27/2015 5:25:59 PM PST by Pietro
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To: Brad from Tennessee

The obama two-step:

Ban lead bullets for environmental reasons.

Ban non-lead billets as “cop killers.”

Oh yeah, ban combined lead and non-lead bullets for both reason.

You can keep your guns, you just can’t have any ammo.

Just like people in the USSR needed to government permission to buy ink! (No joke.)


5 posted on 02/27/2015 5:25:59 PM PST by piytar (If you don't know what the doctrines of taqiyya and abrogation are, you are a fool!)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

These tyrannical idiots don’t realize this will lead to a lot of people going the .308 route for their AR since 5.56 is being hoarded. The unintended consequence will be ARs with a more powerful round. I’d love to see Fienstien’s reaction to that news.


6 posted on 02/27/2015 5:28:07 PM PST by optiguy (If government is the answer, it was a stupid question.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Common 55 gr soft nose .223 will punch right through a 1/4 inch steel plate.

I remember reading in THE MAN EATERS OF TSAVO how Patterson used a .303 rifle to punch holes in steel beams.


7 posted on 02/27/2015 5:39:15 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: optiguy

This is simply a test to see how easy they can ban any ammo and what they learn will be repeated.


8 posted on 02/27/2015 5:47:58 PM PST by MrKatykelly
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To: optiguy

300 Blackout w/suppressor


9 posted on 02/27/2015 5:52:53 PM PST by duffee (Dump the Chairman of the Mississippi Republican Party, joe nosef.)
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To: Politically Correct

All these gun control acts are like a soft pillow on a baby to allegedly slow it down, but then it only takes an Obama to press it down further and choke it.

These legislative empowerments are an aberation.


10 posted on 02/27/2015 5:53:17 PM PST by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall no)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

I believe the armor they refer to is body armor.


11 posted on 02/27/2015 5:54:32 PM PST by duffee (Dump the Chairman of the Mississippi Republican Party, joe nosef.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Weight/ density of bullett is much more important than material indeed.

At short range steel shot might penetrate better, but lead is better at long distance.


12 posted on 02/27/2015 5:55:14 PM PST by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall no)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

It’s called incrementalism.. picking ‘em off, one at a time.


13 posted on 02/27/2015 5:59:39 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Saw a guy shooting a russian rifle, nagant or something, said it was 7.62x54, it went clean through a sideways 2x4 at 100 yds.


14 posted on 02/27/2015 6:05:05 PM PST by bicyclerepair (Ft. Lauderdale FL (zombie land). TERM LIMITS ... TERM LIMITS)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Or basically the people at Lake City have competitors who want a larger share of the ammo market. And not the usual nonsense of conservatives quibbling details with the libtard fascists when they should be telling them the 2A is not about sporting purposes regardless of the stupid crap the politically correct spout. Take the freaking “sporting purposes” varmint out back of the barn and shoot it dead, please.


15 posted on 02/27/2015 6:08:00 PM PST by junta ("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

I’m actually disappointed that TP and the huffy post aren’t pushing this new ban. I’d love to get on there and make the gun grabbers foam at the mouth with facts.


16 posted on 02/27/2015 6:18:31 PM PST by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be earned and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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To: MrKatykelly

DING! DING! DING!

We got the winner.

That is exactly what they are doing.


17 posted on 02/27/2015 6:27:49 PM PST by IMR 4350
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Remember the Great Ammo Scare of 2013, when the public was stockpiling as much ammo as they could get their hands on? The media and the low info morons were calling them “crazy preppers” and “conspiracy kooks”. Now ammo, all kinds of ammo, is worth much more than its weight in gold. Who’s laughing now?


18 posted on 02/27/2015 6:28:58 PM PST by jespasinthru (Proud Member of the Vast, Right-Wing Conspracy)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Great book! Do you have an original copy?


19 posted on 02/27/2015 6:31:49 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth (SAVE THIS POST: 2016 Election Results Called on February 27, 2015)
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To: bicyclerepair
Saw a guy shooting a russian rifle, nagant or something, said it was 7.62x54, it went clean through a sideways 2x4 at 100 yds.

I did that with a Civil War era muzzle loaded black powder musket. The 2X4s did not like that .60 cal Minnie Ball load. ;~))

Well, I guess the rounds didn't go "clean" through... they just turned the 2X4s into tooth picks as they were passing through. ;~))

It wasn't a 'clean' wound by any means.

20 posted on 02/27/2015 6:34:49 PM PST by Ditto
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