Posted on 02/24/2015 11:36:15 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
In a windowless classroom at an Arcadia tutoring center, parents crammed into child-sized desks and dug through their pockets and purses for pens as Ann Lee launches a PowerPoint presentation..
Her primer on college admissions begins with the basics: application deadlines, the relative virtues of the SAT versus the ACT and how many Advanced Placement tests to take.
Then she eases into a potentially incendiary topic one that many counselors like her have learned they cannot avoid.
Let's talk about Asians, she says.
Lee's next slide shows three columns of numbers from a Princeton University study that tried to measure how race and ethnicity affect admissions by using SAT scores as a benchmark. It uses the term bonus to describe how many extra SAT points an applicant's race is worth. She points to the first column.
African Americans received a bonus of 230 points, Lee says.
She points to the second column.
Hispanics received a bonus of 185 points.
The last column draws gasps.
Asian Americans, Lee says, are penalized by 50 points in other words, they had to do that much better to win admission.
Do Asians need higher test scores? Is it harder for Asians to get into college? The answer is yes, Lee says.
Zenme keyi, one mother hisses in Chinese. How can this be possible?(continued)
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Back in the 90’s in Orange County, a Vietnamese video rental store put up a picture of Ho Chi Mihn and the local Vietnamese residents almost burned the store down.
There are some good Sephardic Jewish given names and last names that would work in Hebrew or Spanish.
A mix of asian and white makes a plausible Hispanic.
I agree with Reagan. If the Asian descended students work the hardest and score the highest, they should get the spots. If the other groups (white included) want to play their video games, goof off and what not, we deserve what we get.
As do I.
When I was at Berkeley, in the 80s, they did a study about which ethnic group had the most successful students at the campus, and it was published in the school paper. It turns out the Koreans were the most successful. They did it by effectively using study groups. They hung in there with each other and helped each other. Simple dedication and friendly cooperation.
Anybody could do that. So, did all the other students start forming really good study groups? Um, no.
People do deserve what they get.
Make the requirements for Asians the baseline and that means white Americans are getting 50 Affirmative Action points.
They might be. The way colleges are currently ranked, by professors, significant weight is attached to research published by academics at that college. Since American colleges receive massive amounts of government grant money, American academics publish the most research, unlike their Asian brethren, which are run as educational rather than research institutions. But the reality is that elite American colleges produce mostly drones, like everybody else. Bill Gates was a college dropout. As was Steve Jobs. Jony Ive went to trade school. In England. Sam Walton never even went to college. Home Depot's Bernard Marcus and Arthur Blank graduated from Rutgers and Babson respectively with generic undergrad degrees, not exactly the beneficiary of esoteric Fed-funded research. Bottom line is that these rankings are illusory with respect to how much value-added they contribute to the raw materials (i.e. students) processed through.
We shouldn't kid ourselves. Take out our raw materials endowment (abundant fertile land, oil, minerals, lumber, coal, et al) and we end up with Japan's GDP per capita. And this is after two decades of Japanese stagnation.
“Just check the Hispanic box and demand they prove differently.”
That’s what I have done. Only an idiot plays by crooked rules. I wonder how much of the growing percentage of American Hispanics are Anglos that just got tired of losing out on affirmative-action jobs.
She's escaping capitalism and cronyism. China is far more dog-eat-dog capitalist than the US. In China, if you don't work, you don't eat*. But the cronyism is something to behold.
* The Communist Party is just a placeholder name today. Back in the day, the party decided where you lived, where you worked, what you wore, what you ate, and so on. Now everyone has to figure out these things on his own. Residences were handed over to their occupants to live in, rent or sell. Work units were disbanded. Ration cards for cloth (for sewing into garments) and food were eliminated, and cash became the principal means of acquiring things. All of this starting in 1979. As of 2013, Chinese per capita output (a proxy for income) was 67x what it was in 1979, compared to India's 7x. Once the party stopped paying people to sit around doing nothing, but letting them make money and keep that money, they got off their butts and started making all kinds of things, ranging from nuts and bolts at Home Depot to DVD players at Best Buy.
If no, why not?
The sad fact is the affirmative action kids can’t cut it, and either are the anchor to the curves or go into easy majors.
Its pure BS to do this.. if the guy beats you he beats you....
Depends on which group some are very conservative and vote so, others are much more like other American groups and do as they think they are supposed to.
Libs look at people as everybody belonging to a certain group. They have their preferred groups (blacks, Hispanics, homosexuals, single females), and they assign the the victim label to all those groups. Many members of those groups believe it's all luck as well.
They will still continue to vote Democrat. Non-westerners can NEVER assimilate into a western culture. Too bad our immigration laws don’t reflect this.
By contrast, I'm pretty sure we'd find a very large pct. of Dems have horrible attitudes towards life. Many of the them think they're unlucky or somebody has it in for them. Mostly, they're just natural losers.
Remind me again why why whites put up with all this race crap?
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