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"For over 135 years, the Supreme Court of the United States has held that laws may prohibit religiously motivated action, as opposed to belief," he ruled.

That's to prohibit things like human sacrifice you moron.

1 posted on 02/23/2015 7:38:22 AM PST by wagglebee
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2 posted on 02/23/2015 7:38:56 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

Excuse me?


3 posted on 02/23/2015 7:41:24 AM PST by yldstrk
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To: wagglebee

Day by day,hour by hour, comma and period by comma and period moronic activist left leaning judges are stripping away the magnificent work of the founding fathers.


5 posted on 02/23/2015 7:44:32 AM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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At the same time the FBI is ordered to stop monitoring Mosques.


6 posted on 02/23/2015 7:45:11 AM PST by skeeter
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Nah. Ever since the ‘60s you could tell this was coming.


7 posted on 02/23/2015 7:47:09 AM PST by chesley (Obama -- Muslim or dhimmi? And does it matter?)
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Benton County Superior Court Judge Alexander Ekstrom ruled that while the religious beliefs of florist Barronelle Stutzman related to marriage is protected by the U.S. Constitution, living her life in accordance with her faith is not.

Unless you are Sikh who wants to wear his or her turban while on duty or a Mooselimb who doesn't want to shave his beard or a detainee at Gitmo who insists on halal meals and a prayer rug.

Otherwise, right.

Let me boil it down for you troglodyte Christians. The Constitution is un-Constitutional.

8 posted on 02/23/2015 7:47:12 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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Judge Eckstrom seem to rule that I can be sued for violating someone’s civil rights because I took the LIFE ACTION of actually closing my business on a RELIGIOUS holiday, and thus could not accommadate the would-be customer.
The service I provide is provided AT THE MOMENT, not one scheduled for a later date, thus my closing denies the customer, because of my religious beliefs, the benefit of said service.
Your, (dis)Honor, go to a very warm Zip Code.


9 posted on 02/23/2015 7:47:13 AM PST by CaptainAmiigaf (N.Y. TIMES: "We print the news as it fits our views.")
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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof (The First Amendment. to the US Constitution)
Rulings like this one in Washington do two things:
10 posted on 02/23/2015 7:47:15 AM PST by annalex (fear them not)
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She cannot be forced to create a message she disagrees with.

She should try to appeal on Speech grounds.

Worth a shot: the forces of evil are aligned against religious belief.

The homosexual’s right trumps YOUR right because they say so.

But you cannot be made to speak.

She had no problem selling them cakes pies and cookies. But to bake a cake for their “marriage” was to create a message and she has every right to refuse to speak that message.


11 posted on 02/23/2015 7:48:47 AM PST by Adder (No, Mr. Franklin, we could NOT keep it.)
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Benton County Superior Court Judge Alexander Ekstrom ruled that while the religious beliefs of florist Barronelle Stutzman related to marriage is protected by the U.S. Constitution, living her life in accordance with her faith is not...."For over 135 years, the Supreme Court of the United States has held that laws may prohibit religiously motivated action, as opposed to belief," he ruled. He said that "in trade and commerce, and more particularly when seeking to prevent discrimination in public accommodations," legislatures are allowed "to prohibit conduct it deems discriminatory." Ekstrom ruled that this applies "even where the motivation for that conduct is grounded in religious belief."

PFL

12 posted on 02/23/2015 7:49:33 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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Amendment 1: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, OR THE FREE EXERCISE THEREOF...

How does “His Honor” deny such “free exercise” protected by A-1?


13 posted on 02/23/2015 7:51:12 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations: The acronym explains the science.)
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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.


15 posted on 02/23/2015 7:56:35 AM PST by DownInFlames
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So as long as you leave your beliefs at the church door, you are okay?


16 posted on 02/23/2015 7:59:13 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (True followers of Christ emulate Christ. True followers of Mohammed emulate Mohammed.)
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Madison's Notes for the Bill of Rights

Madison used this outline to guide him in delivering his speech introducing the Bill of Rights into the First Congress on June 8, 1789. Madison proposed an amendment to assuage the anxieties of those who feared that religious freedom would be endangered by the unamended Constitution. According to The Congressional Register Madison, on June 8, moved that "the civil rights of none shall be abridged on account of religious belief or worship, nor shall any national religion be established, nor shall the full and equal rights of conscience be in any manner, or on any pretext infringed."


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18 posted on 02/23/2015 7:59:30 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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A possible work-around for stores would be to have a subcontractor clause in their contracts. So, they can accept the contract and then sub it to another who doesn’t mind dealing with the client base. Just claim you had to sub it for health reasons.


19 posted on 02/23/2015 8:00:41 AM PST by captain_dave
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Romans 1:..
22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools.. 25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.

26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.

28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. 29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31 they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy.

Note also that Romans 1:32 points out that those who approve of such conduct are just as guilty as those who engage in it.

Lev 18:22 “You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination....

25‘For the land has become defiled, therefore I have brought its punishment upon it, so the land has spewed out its inhabitants.”


21 posted on 02/23/2015 8:01:49 AM PST by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - a Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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Here is her letter:

Attorney General Bob Ferguson
1125 Washington St. SE
P.O. Box 40100
Olympia, WA 98504

Re: State of Washington v. Arlene’s Flowers and Barronelle Stutzman

Dear Mr. Ferguson,

Thank you for reaching out and making an offer to settle your case against me.

As you may imagine, it has been mentally and emotionally exhausting to be at the center of this controversy for nearly two years. I never imagined that using my God-given talents and abilities, and doing what I love to do for over three decades, would become illegal. Our state would be a better place if we respected each other’s differences, and our leaders protected the freedom to have those differences. Since 2012, same-sex couples all over the state have been free to act on their beliefs about marriage, but because I follow the Bible’s teaching that marriage is the union of one man and one woman, I am no longer free to act on my beliefs.

Your offer reveals that you don’t really understand me or what this conflict is all about. It’s about freedom, not money. I certainly don’t relish the idea of losing my business, my home, and everything else that your lawsuit threatens to take from my family, but my freedom to honor God in doing what I do best is more important. Washington’s constitution guarantees us “freedom of conscience in all matters of religious sentiment.” I cannot sell that precious freedom. You are asking me to walk in the way of a well-known betrayer, one who sold something of infinite worth for 30 pieces of silver. That is something I will not do.

I pray that you reconsider your position. I kindly served Rob for nearly a decade and would gladly continue to do so. I truly want the best for my friend. I’ve also employed and served many members of the LGBT community, and I will continue to do so regardless of what happens with this case. You chose to attack my faith and pursue this not simply as a matter of law, but to threaten my very means of working, eating, and having a home. If you are serious about clarifying the law, then I urge you to drop your claims against my home, business, and other assets and pursue the legal claims through the appeal process. Thanks again for writing and I hope you will consider my offer.

Sincerely,

Barronelle Stutzman

Available here: http://www.adfmedia.org/files/ArlenesFlowersSettlementOfferResponse.pdf


22 posted on 02/23/2015 8:02:52 AM PST by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - a Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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I cannot say what I wish would happen to this judge.


23 posted on 02/23/2015 8:03:07 AM PST by Marathoner (What are we waiting for? Where are the Articles of Impeachment?)
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Lots of good details here:

http://blog.alliancedefendingfreedom.org/2014/05/23/4-things-you-need-to-know-about-barronelle-stutzmans-story/


24 posted on 02/23/2015 8:04:00 AM PST by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - a Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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What kind of utterly worthless POS lacking in humanity do you have to be to sue a woman who for a decade provided kind and polite service to you just because she couldn’t support doing one thing for you on the basis of her religious beliefs, which they undoubtedly knew beforehand? They had offers from other florists to provide their flowers for their sodomite union, but no, they had to sue a woman who had provided wonderful customer service to them for over 10 years, because she couldn’t set aside her religious principles to help them “celebrate” their sodomy.

And then they don’t just sue her for a token amount, they set out to destroy her. It’s like they planned it.


30 posted on 02/23/2015 8:13:21 AM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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