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"To complicate matters, the executive branch has declared a peace dividend and started to demobilize American military forces before the war has truly begun. This is national suicide."
1 posted on 02/14/2015 4:52:49 AM PST by OwenKellogg
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To: OwenKellogg

Under Obama and the corrupt EXEMPT docile Congress,
the US gov’t is behind Iran, N. Korea and al Qaeda
in their attack on the American people, free people,
Israel, and all religions except Islam (also EXEMPT).


2 posted on 02/14/2015 4:54:48 AM PST by Diogenesis ("When a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced.")
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3 posted on 02/14/2015 4:56:13 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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All I am saying is that is not the only threat out there.

America is no longer the number one manufacturer on the planet. China is now the number one manufacturer.

China is growing fast. With our manufacturing plants, in China.

Bring back American industry.


4 posted on 02/14/2015 4:57:56 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html)
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To: OwenKellogg

maybe a war is what is needed to get America back on track. The only problem this war will be different in that it will take place in the Middle East and the secular Islamists believe that the 12th Imam will never return until the conditions are right. Rivers of blood will flow throughout the world in this war. Keep this in mind the secular islamists are fightin what is called a pagan nomadic war against the factions that exist throughout the Islamic culture, it is not Sunni and Shitite only it is aginst the ruling elite, the educated, the uneducated, women, the West and homosexuality. The oddity here in the West homosexuality is becoming the norm and the secular Islamists will destroy the homos very quickly.


6 posted on 02/14/2015 5:07:23 AM PST by hondact200 (Candor dat viribos alas (sincerity gives wings to strength) and Nil desperandum (never despair))
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To: OwenKellogg

The existential threat to the USA is in the White Hut.


7 posted on 02/14/2015 5:09:36 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: OwenKellogg

Face it America, nothing will be done to fight this until all leftists are out of power. Both parties.

The US IS committing suicide. I blame the government, but I also blame the people for allowing a disgraceful person to run the country and doing nothing to stop him.

We are past the pissing and moaning stage.


9 posted on 02/14/2015 5:11:36 AM PST by dforest
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"Bombing is not a strategy."


11 posted on 02/14/2015 5:21:43 AM PST by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: OwenKellogg

To complicate matters, the ally of our enemy is in the WH.


12 posted on 02/14/2015 5:32:07 AM PST by Old Yeller (Civil rights are for civilized people.)
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unfortunately zer0 is not as benign as dopy chamberlain. He is more like quisling

13 posted on 02/14/2015 5:32:56 AM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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Absolutely crazy Democrats in office result in absolutely crazy policies by people who think they’re brilliant intellectual geniuses.

Absolutely amazing.

IMHO


16 posted on 02/14/2015 5:41:11 AM PST by ripley
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——Building a coalition of allies is a strategy.-——

That is the problem.

The world, ie the potential members of such a coalition, has determined that Obama is truly a zero and can’t be trusted to do anything but read speeches.


17 posted on 02/14/2015 5:42:42 AM PST by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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President Bush correctly saw the evil for what it was. He understood the enemy

Actually, he didn't. He called the enemy a "religion of peace".

He understood what happened on September 11, 2001. He did something about it.

Not nearly enough.

18 posted on 02/14/2015 5:57:53 AM PST by Right Brother
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Two facts:

* We have no (real) money for an overseas war. None.
* Obama, and the military leadership remaining under him, would be directing that overseas war.
* The organizations and governments we would arm and empower there likely to become our enemies.
* Many, many young men you know would die for those organizations.

Solution: Get out completely. Shut the borders to all of them. Spend the defense budget on military defense of North America.


24 posted on 02/14/2015 6:25:45 AM PST by ReaganGeneration2
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28 posted on 02/14/2015 6:59:22 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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The first step is to identify the enemy. The enemy is Islam. The difference between a radical extremist Muslim and a moderate muslim is - the radical extremist muslim wants to chop your head off. The moderate muslim wants to cheer while the radical extremist cuts your head off.

I will support total war with no idiot rules of engagement. I will not support "winning hearts and minds" nation building. We tried that and lost.

31 posted on 02/14/2015 7:22:50 AM PST by SpeakerToAnimals (I hope to earn a name in battle)
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We need to bring our troops home.

This war requires a Japanese cockroach solution just like last time only a good bit more.

33 posted on 02/14/2015 8:20:10 AM PST by rawcatslyentist (Genesis 1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed,)
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Pursuing the axis of evil was a strategy of President Bush.

No, it was a speech by President Shrub. Then he got to Baghdad and stopped to pretend he could civilize an Islamist Sunni-Shia civil war with borrowed money.

36 posted on 02/14/2015 9:38:38 AM PST by Carry_Okie (Grovelnator Shwarzenkaiser: fasionable fascism one charade at a time.)
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WE KNOW they’ll eventually nuke us in the future — whether or not we nuke them...

Which begs the philosophical question of pre-emptive strikes. Here’s an analogy I’ve designed. I’m interested in any critical opinion on the logic:

1. Suppose, your neighbor hates you and has a beautiful kind wife.
2. Suppose his hobby is raising a lot of rattlesnakes in his backyard.
3. Suppose there is no fence between your yard and his and there is no way to build an effective barrier.
4. Suppose he has threatened to kill you with his rattlesnakes and there’s deep grass all around your house...
5. Suppose you realize that eventually his rattlesnakes WILL kill you.

WHAT WOULD YOU DO? __________

a) Do you blow up his house including him and all the rattlesnakes and his innocent/beautiful wife?

b) Or do you wait until your certain future of death by rattlesnakes?

Clearly, it’s NOT wise for you to wait for your certain death, so your only LOGICAL choice is to nuke your neighbor.

Your dilemma is you that know that there will be innocent casualties (e.g. his beautiful/innocent wife would die in the blast), but you will not be killed in the future by him and you will rid the world of this evil man and his weapons.

THEREFORE, from a pure survival standpoint, wouldn’t it make more sense to nuke (with a Neutron Bomb) all of ISIS and all other evil factions in the Middle East? Unfortunately this would result in innocent casualties, but we know that it is a certainty that there WILL BE MANY innocent casualties in the Western world if we wait to be attacked. So we then the choice is distilled into do we want the innocent casualties to be theirs or ours?

Source: Ross Perot once mentioned the analogy of a rattlesnake in your backyard. I merely expanded upon the idea.


37 posted on 02/14/2015 10:24:17 AM PST by AlanGreenSpam (Obama: The First 'American IDOL' President - sponsored by Chicago NeoCom Thugs)
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When the SHTF and if it does it before 2016 it might be a very long time before another D is elected to the highest office in our land.

I pray for our troops. He has shown he does not value or care for them.


38 posted on 02/14/2015 10:26:48 AM PST by Qwackertoo (Worst 8 years ever, First Affirmative Action President, I hope those who did this to us SUFFER MOST!)
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Sorry. With the current pack of clowns representing our political “leadership”, the only rational and indeed only moral course of action is to do nothing.

No blood for bozos.


41 posted on 02/14/2015 11:12:38 AM PST by RKBA Democrat (There is only one party, the uniparty, and corruption is its credo.)
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