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Anti-Vaccine Fanatics Kill
Townhall.com ^ | February 4, 2014 | Ben Shapiro

Posted on 02/04/2015 11:01:19 AM PST by Kaslin

This week, controversy broke out over whether state governments have the power to require parents to have their children vaccinated. New Jersey Governor Chris Christie, no stranger to compelling his citizens to stay off the roads during blizzards, announced that he had some sympathy for the anti-vaccination position: "I also understand that parents need to have some measure of choice in things as well. So that's the balance the government has to decide." Kentucky Senator Rand Paul doubled down on Christie's remarks, stating, "I have heard of many tragic cases of walking, talking, normal children who wound up with profound mental orders after vaccines. ...The state doesn't own your children."

Christie and Paul aren't the only politicians sympathizing with anti-vaccination fanatics; in 2008, then-Senator Barack Obama repeated widely debunked claims of links between autism and vaccination. Skepticism of vaccination crosses party lines, unfortunately -- although the most organized anti-vaccination resistance comes from the New Agey left in places like Santa Monica and Marin County, who worry more about infinitesimal amounts of formaldehyde in vaccines than about death by polio.

Unsurprisingly, older Americans believe that children should be vaccinated against diseases like measles, mumps and whopping cough, by a 73 percent to 21 percent margin. Americans 18-29, by contrast, believe by a 43 percent to 42 percent plurality that government should not mandate such vaccinations.

That's because young people don't remember a time when such diseases claimed lives. They don't remember a time when the vast majority of Americans weren't vaccinated. Older people do. Many of them lost loved ones to polio and measles and mumps and rubella. In 1952, over 3,000 Americans died of polio and well over 21,000 were left with mild or severe paralysis. Thanks to Dr. Jonas Salk's vaccine, there have been zero cases of natural polio in the United States since 1979.

The same is true of measles. According to Dr. Mark Papania of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, more than 90 percent of Americans suffered from the measles by age 15 before widespread vaccination beginning in 1962. From 1956 to 1960, he reports, "an average of 542,000 cases were reported annually." That included 450 deaths per year, as well as 150,000 cases of respiratory complications and 4,000 cases of consequent encephalitis per year, many of which resulted in later death. Then mandatory vaccination kicked in. Until a major upswing in 2014, we averaged less than 100 cases of measles per year in the United States since 2000.

The point of mandatory vaccinations is not merely to protect those who are vaccinated. When it comes to measles, mumps and rubella, for example, children cannot be vaccinated until 1 year of age. The only way to prevent them from getting diseases is to ensure that those who surround them do not have those diseases. The same is true for children with diseases like leukemia, as well as pregnant women. Herd immunity is designed to protect third parties.

But Americans have short memories and enormous confidence in junk science. Parents will ignore vaccinations but ensure that their kids are stocked up with the latest homeopathic remedies, Kabbalah bracelets and crystals. St. John's wort, red string and crystals all existed before 1962. They didn't stop the measles. Vaccination did.

That doesn't mean that all vaccinations should be compulsory, of course. There are certain diseases that can only be transmitted by behavior, like HPV. There are others that are too varied for effective herd vaccination, like the flu shot. But when it comes to measles and mumps and rubella and polio, your right to be free of vaccination -- and your right to be a dope with the health of your child because you believe Jenny McCarthy's idiocy -- ends where my child's right to live begins.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: antivacc; antivax; antivaxxer; antivaxxers; autism; benshapiro; biggovernment; chrischristie; christie; kentucky; mmr; nannystate; newjersey; randpaul; vaccinations; vaccines
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1 posted on 02/04/2015 11:01:19 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Falling right into the leafing media’s trap. Again.


2 posted on 02/04/2015 11:02:04 AM PST by skeeter
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To: skeeter

The new Goldsteins. People don’t have any common sense to see it.

Here comes the two minutes hate.


3 posted on 02/04/2015 11:05:08 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: skeeter

leftwing...


4 posted on 02/04/2015 11:06:38 AM PST by skeeter
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To: Kaslin

Oh so this is going to be how the MSM shames the people who won’t take the mark of the beast vaccine is it?...: )


5 posted on 02/04/2015 11:07:00 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: Kaslin

All the illegal kids flooding across the southern border had all their vaccines up to date no doubt!


6 posted on 02/04/2015 11:07:38 AM PST by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: skeeter
Hypothetical....what's going to happen when Ebola or some other yucky disease spreads, and there's a new untested vaccine for it, with absolutely no clue what its long-term impact will be? Are we being conditioned to accept getting that vaccine perhaps by mandate for the good of those who can't or whatever?

Am I the only one who's totally turned off by being told to succumb to others thinking? I'd be much more likely to make an objective decision if I were given the facts, both pro and con, without bias, and asked to make an informed decision.

7 posted on 02/04/2015 11:09:08 AM PST by grania
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To: Kaslin
So the State will mandate vaccinations for all legal residents and citizens, but let in illegals w/o vaccinations and then give them amnesty? Have I got that right?

Bring back Ellis Island! It was good enough for my grandfather and he did ok.

Note: That is not a picture of my grandfather. ;)

8 posted on 02/04/2015 11:09:27 AM PST by Michael.SF. (It takes a gun to feed a village (and an AK 47 to defend it).)
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To: Kaslin

So do terrorists but we keep letting them in anyway.


9 posted on 02/04/2015 11:09:45 AM PST by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: skeeter

I am sorry, but what could be stupider than getting kids vaccinated? My kids get them and I don’t want them exposed to kids not vaccinated against common threats. Nor as a taxpayer do I want to pay for the treatment of someone getting sick because they didn’t get vaccinated. Seriously, do we want a generation of kids crippled and dead from preventable illness?

Okay, I am also over 50, have seen, experienced the other side, growing before some common treatments.


10 posted on 02/04/2015 11:10:03 AM PST by Reno89519 (For every illegal or H1B with a job, there's an American without one. Muslim = Nazi = Evil)
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To: Kaslin

Well let’s just say that we have two factors here to make a perfect storm, first the illegals that had flooded the southern border and those who simply did not get their kids vacinated.


11 posted on 02/04/2015 11:10:38 AM PST by Biggirl (2014 MIdterms Were BOTH A Giant Wave And Restraining Order)
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To: Kaslin

“But Americans have short memories and enormous confidence in junk science.”

Short memories yes but it is not so much a confidence in junk science but lack thereof in real science. Climate change and such would be a big cause of that.


12 posted on 02/04/2015 11:10:44 AM PST by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: b4its2late

Cough, cough, yeah right.


13 posted on 02/04/2015 11:10:56 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin
your right to be a dope with the health of your child because you believe Jenny McCarthy's idiocy - ends where my child's right to live begins.

So, Ben - if your child is vaccinated, there's no problem, right?

14 posted on 02/04/2015 11:11:20 AM PST by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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To: Reno89519

Than NOT. Sorry, the simplest words sometimes get missed typing on an iPad.


15 posted on 02/04/2015 11:11:33 AM PST by Reno89519 (For every illegal or H1B with a job, there's an American without one. Muslim = Nazi = Evil)
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To: grania
You are correct.

You'd think at least we on this site wouldn't be so willing to unquestioningly accept what we are told by our 'betters' in the fedgov.

I can be trusted to own a gun. Likewise I will be trusted to decide what is right for my family.

16 posted on 02/04/2015 11:11:46 AM PST by skeeter
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To: Kaslin

Open border POLCIES KILL MORE PEOPLE EVERY DAMNED YEAR!

Be it drunk drivers, criminal homcides, or the occasional diseas that gets brought over....

But yeah.... let’s blame the anti-vaccination crowds....

Why not let the strict anti-vaccine people kill thier own children off by not giving them vaccines, and the all vaccines all the time parents and their children will always be healthy and will eventually replace them, there, problem solved.


17 posted on 02/04/2015 11:11:53 AM PST by GraceG (Protect the Border from Illegal Aliens, Don't Protect Illegal Alien Boarders...)
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To: Kaslin

Yes they do.

Liberal policies always lead to death one way or the other.

Shapiro’s an idiot, though, he is right about this.


18 posted on 02/04/2015 11:12:48 AM PST by ifinnegan
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To: Reno89519

Corrected: I am sorry, but what could be stupider than NOT getting kids vaccinated? My kids get them and I don’t want them exposed to kids not vaccinated against common threats. Nor as a taxpayer do I want to pay for the treatment of someone getting sick because they didn’t get vaccinated. Seriously, do we want a generation of kids crippled and dead from preventable illness?

Okay, I am also over 50, have seen, experienced the other side, growing before some common treatments.


19 posted on 02/04/2015 11:13:20 AM PST by Reno89519 (For every illegal or H1B with a job, there's an American without one. Muslim = Nazi = Evil)
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To: Kaslin
I was following Ben Shapiro on Twitter... until yesterday. He has sold out.

Shapiro is no doctor. He believes what ever lies the government and Big Pharma tell him.

I worked for a pharmaceutical firm for a short time. They flat-out consciously killed people without remorse in order to turn their multi-million dollar business into a multi-BILLION dollar business.

It's amazing how people who are supposedly part of the alternative media will suck up whatever they are told and regurgitate it as if it is Holy Writ.

20 posted on 02/04/2015 11:14:24 AM PST by Dr. Thorne ("Now when these things begin to happen, look up and lift up your heads." - Luke 21:28)
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