[purcre]

In 2011 the experimental photographer Vincenzo Giovanni Ruello discovered the second shroud in the Vatican Veronica Veil authenticating the legend and cloth and now linking it to the Shroud of Turin

[JudyinCanada]

How is it that there are 2 shrouds?

[Bigg Red]

The link is not at all helpful in terms of telling us the history of this second shroud.

[virgil]

Where did he find it?

[MuttTheHoople]

It can't be Christ- Psalm 34:19-20: …19Many are the afflictions of the righteous, But the LORD delivers him out of them all. 20He keeps all his bones, Not one of them is broken.

John 19:32-33: So the soldiers came, and broke the legs of the first man and of the other who was crucified with Him; 33but coming to Jesus, when they saw that He was already dead, they did not break His legs.

[P-Marlowe]

fractured cheek

Ain't Jesus.

[WildHighlander57]

Looks like this is the separate piece; I wonder if it has the same pollen and distinctive weave style as the main shroud.

[ifinnegan]

I’ve already got one.

[ifinnegan]

In all seriousness, this sort of stuff is just a form of idolatry.

[Gumdrop]

Veronica’s veil is known by all educated Catholic schoolchildren. It is part of the 14 Stations of the Cross that we pray during lent.

In the movie, “The Passion of the Christ” a scene is depicted of a local woman who sees the procession with Jesus carrying the cross, and she manages to get close to him and to wipe his face of the blood and sweat using her white veil. Go back and watch this scene. The woman is then shown watching as Jesus passes by and her veil is open with the imprint of his face on the veil. That is the story of Veronica, a name that comes from the Latin terms ‘Vero’ meaning “true”, and ‘iconi’ which means ‘icon’. Early Christians were in possession of this veil, and the actual name of the woman is not known, but believed that she became part of the Christian community. So she was called ‘Veronica’, meaning true image.

[Montana_Sam]

To the lurkers and doubters - no one is required to believe anything of these pieces of cloth. As to the inane comments about regard for this and the Shroud of Turin being nothing more than idolatry, perhaps we should toss the Bible into the fire that it isn’t worshipped, too. Are you incapable of self-censoring so you don’t sound so goofy? Yes? No? What is it? If the Shroud of Turin truly is the cloth that covered Our Lord’s body, the marks on it would give us a true record that coincides with and confirms the Gospel accounts of His torture and death. Idolatry? What are you all smoking?

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

I read that several hundred years after Christ died, a thousand years before the moon worshipers polluted the city, that during the renovation of the walls of Constantinople, there was found a niche in the wall in which was found a cloth with what looked like the face of Jesus.
Anyone know anything about this? I don’t remember if it was before or after the great Iconoclast movement which removed or destroyed many of the Christian statues in the city.

[Swordmaker]

The other thread on the St. Peter's Veronica Veil. . . PING

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[A Navy Vet]

The Shroud of Turin is BS. If some divine light created the shroud, why does the Turin shroud show a one-dimensional face? Try painting a head/body completely around and then laying a cloth over it to absorb the paint. The very front of the face may be similar, but the areas wrapped on the sides would be distorted once layed flat. The Shroud of Turin doesn't show that distortion.

So god shot his light on just the very front part of the shroud? Is that the deal?
Disclaimer: I believe Jesus existed and was probably the best human to inhabit this rock. I don't believe he was a son of god nor a miracle worker. Reason being is because at the time people still believed the world to be flat and that the Sun revolved around the Earth. I can give many other examples.

[Jabba the Nutt]

The Bible doesn't include any physical description of Jesus.