Posted on 01/17/2015 2:31:16 PM PST by BigReb555
During Robert E. Lee's 100th birthday in 1907, Charles Francis Adams, Jr., a former Union Commander and grandson of US President John Quincy Adams, spoke in tribute to Robert E. Lee at Washington and Lee College's Lee Chapel in Lexington, Virginia. His speech was printed in both Northern and Southern newspapers and is said to had lifted Lee to a renewed respect among the American people.
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Well, wait a minute — the southerners were the ones protecting and defending the Constitution.
Get over yourself. The petulance that you display towards a man whose dirty underwear you couldn’t carry, a man you never met, a man who had so much integrity that he resigned his commission and went home to his state of origin, a man who since has been deemed to be an historic general and gentleman, is truly pathetic.
The Civil War ended 150 years ago. You weren’t there and neother was anyone here today there. History is just that....the past. You take on it while interesting to you is not to anyone else
“Lee followed VA because he felt that honor and duty dictated it. If VA had NOT voted to secede he would have commanded Union troops. Who is more American, any living liberal (also opposed to slavery) or Lee?”
One can argue that sounds a lot like just following orders.
Face it.
It’s clear that the wrong side won.
It seems the southern gentlemen here are the ones who have their knickers in a twist whenever anyone questions that stupid war ... I simply respond to the jerks that make it a life’s work with them defending the South and its culture the way it was before that war ... you know, slavery and all that. Then they go on figuring that Segregation and that Separate but Equal nonsense was okay too. I bet they have pictures of Wallace on their walls.
By attacking the North? Silly people.
Ya, facts do upset people who are blinded ... :)
I know you aren’t saying that Virginia stared the war by attacking the North.
Are you?
One should be true to your oath first then the state in which you live. Lee took an oath then reneged on it.
Hey, two of my ancestors marched with Sherman (a war criminal by modern standards)
They were only following orders.
What about the Northern States Anti-Slavery Laws?
Dredd Scott v. Sanford took care of those.
What about Bleeding Kansas?
Kansas and Missouri fought a war before the Start of the Civil War.
Was it right for the State to Enslave someone?
If Freepers were half as dedicated to their respective states as Lee was to Virginia we wouldn’t be currently suffering such a treasonous adminsitration.
There was slavery in the North. I’m not defending that. It’s the Southern cause ....
Way down on the levy in old Alabamy
There's Daddy and Mammy
There's Ephraim and Sammy
On a moonlight night you can find them all
While they are waiting,
The banjos are syncopating
What's that they're saying?
What's that they're saying?
While they keep playing
A, humming and swaying
It's the good ship Robert E. Lee
That's come to carry the cotton away!
Watch them shuffling along,
See them shuffling along!
Go take your best gal, real pal
Go down to the levy, I said to the levy,
And join that shuffling throng
Hear that music and song!
It's simply great, mate, waiting on the levy
Waiting for the Robert E. Lee!
There can be little doubt that, though Virginians, both Henry and his son Robert deplored the slavery (not to mention slaveowners Washington and Jefferson) and it can be reasonably argued that Robert E. Lee fought on the side of Dixie for reasons other than strong convictions regarding the legitimacy of slavery as an institution.
Generals follow their commander-in-chief's orders, and for that reason, we can, from a relatively detached perspective, appreciate the skill and military genius of generals who were on the "wrong" side of history, like Lee and Stonewall Jackson from the Civil War, William Howe and Cornwallis from the American Revolution, and, say, Field Marshall Rommel from WWII.
IMHO, we can therefore appreciate a given general's pure military skills without having to pass excessive judgment on them simply because they fought for the "wrong" side in a specific war...
Yes, one could. One could also argue that Obama is God.
Right! That is what I am saying ;)
You are 100% correct, times 10 billion.
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