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After Charlie Hebdo attack, U.S. Catholic group says cartoonists ‘provoked’ slaughter
The Washington Post ^ | 1/7/2015 | Ishaan Tharoor

Posted on 01/08/2015 7:43:14 AM PST by Kevin C

In the aftermath of the deadly assault on the offices of Charlie Hebdo, a French satirical newspaper, much of the world has rallied in solidarity with the publication, its irreverent cartoonists and their right to free speech. But not everyone is so supportive. Bill Donohue, president of the Catholic League, a U.S. organization that "defends the rights of Catholics," issued a statement titled "Muslims are right to be angry." In it, Donohue criticized the publication's history of offending the world's religiously devout, including non-Muslims. The murdered Charlie Hebdo editor Stephane Charbonnier "didn’t understand the role he played in his [own] tragic death," the statement reads. "Had [Charbonnier] not been so narcissistic, he may still be alive," Donohue says, in what must be one of the more offensive and insensitive comments made on this tragic day. "Killing in response to insult, no matter how gross, must be unequivocally condemned. That is why what happened in Paris cannot be tolerated," says Donohue. "But neither should we tolerate the kind of intolerance that provoked this violent reaction." The statement says Charlie Hebdo has "a long and disgusting record of going way beyond the mere lampooning" of religious figures. "They have shown nuns masturbating and popes wearing condoms," Donohue says. "They have also shown Muhammad in pornographic poses." Among the covers is a too-racy-for-WorldViews depiction of the Christian Holy Trinity locked in a three-way homosexual orgy (as part of a critique of French religious leaders' opposition to gay marriage) and a whole array of images mocking pedophilia by priests. Charlie Hebdo doesn't pull its punches. But some critics say it goes too far, specifically with Muslims.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: billdonohue; catholicleague; charliehebdo; insultmohammed; islamophobia; muslimbaiting; muslimworld; whatajerk
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To: al_c

“But is it wise to publish the material they did? I wouldn’t do it, that’s for sure. “

Unfortunately, thinking that the avoidance of anything that could be potentially offensive to Islam will ensure peace is delusional. It doesn’t matter what we do. That’s just the sad reality.


21 posted on 01/08/2015 8:03:45 AM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: Lurking Libertarian

That is true.


22 posted on 01/08/2015 8:04:27 AM PST by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: Kevin C

Both things are true. That the Muslims as a group keep breeding violent criminals is true, but that anti-Christian and anti-Muslim Left do not deserve a free speech protection for their cartoons is also true.


23 posted on 01/08/2015 8:05:03 AM PST by annalex (fear them not)
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To: Kevin C
Before commenting on this article, people should use their favorite search engine to find out what "Charlie Hebdo" was in the habit of publishing.

1) Murder is wrong. The mad mohammedans who murdered, in cold blood, the cartoonists at "Charlie Hebdo" need to hang by the neck until they are dead.

2) Prior to this islamic terrorist atrocity, I had never heard of "Charlie Hebdo". By murdering these cartoonists in cold blood, the vile demon-inspired subhuman cockroaches gave the cartoonists a much wider audience than they ever had before. They turned the cartoonists into secular "martyrs". The islamic filth are stupid as well as evil.

3) The output of "Charlie Hebdo" was and is, IMO, repulsive and reprehensible; the product of diseased minds. It deserved either to be ignored as unworthy of comment, or to be opposed in the realm of ideas. Proverbs 26:4-5. It should NOT, IMO, be unreservedly praised. Je ne suis pas 'Charlie'.

24 posted on 01/08/2015 8:05:05 AM PST by NorthMountain
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To: Kevin C

By this logic, I guess a woman walking alone at night is “asking for it,” too.


25 posted on 01/08/2015 8:05:14 AM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: Kevin C; Opinionated Blowhard; Last Dakotan; PATRIOT1876; nd76; Lurking Libertarian; huldah1776; ...
Notice that Donohue said that the massacre was not without provocation, but it WAS without justification.

"Killing in response to insult, no matter how gross, must be unequivocally condemned. That is why what happened in Paris cannot be tolerated," said Donohue...

Charlie Heb did cartoons o the Pope half naked and wearing a condom, nuns masturbating with crucifixes, and Our Lord doing things I can't describe. I would be RIGHT to be angry, but not JUSTIFIED in going out and murdering people.

That's all Donohue said.

But notice how the Wawa Compost frames it. It says that many have rallied in support of the magazine and its right to free speech...

"But not everyone is so supportive. Bill Donohue...

Bill Donohue has been consistently in favor of free speech and free press, and consistently against obscene provocations (without calling for prior censorship or state suppression of offensive speech.)

But the WaWa Compost has finally put two conservatives into the ring, so to speak, and is now urging, "Let's you an' him fight!"

They just aim to set conservatives to punching each other our.

Amazing how easily they succeed.

26 posted on 01/08/2015 8:05:36 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (What unites us all, of any race, gender, or religion, is that we all believe we are above average.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
“But reason isn’t ruling the day, hate is.”

Precisely. I can't believe that less than 100 years since the rise of the Nazis people are still thinking that appeasement works when dealing with hate.

27 posted on 01/08/2015 8:05:44 AM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: Last Dakotan

Yes he does. Bill needs to retire.


28 posted on 01/08/2015 8:07:39 AM PST by defconw (If not now, WHEN?)
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To: Kevin C

And what religion was it that has a nasty habit of allowing their priest’s molest little boys??


29 posted on 01/08/2015 8:09:29 AM PST by eyeamok
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Making fine points isn’t the forte of our wondrous modern entertainment media, some of whom aren’t that far above Hebdo.


30 posted on 01/08/2015 8:09:47 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: eyeamok

To give the RC Church its due, it did correct the molestation problem, or at least addressed it.

Islam has had 1400 years to correct its excesses, and it still has shown no inclination to do so.


31 posted on 01/08/2015 8:10:45 AM PST by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: Last Dakotan

“Bill Donohue doesn’t speak for Catholics. Bill Donohue speaks for Bill Donohue.”

He does not speak for this Catholic.

I used to have respect for Mr. Donohue, but he has become a parody of himself.


32 posted on 01/08/2015 8:11:39 AM PST by Biggirl (2014 MIdterms Were BOTH A Giant Wave And Restraining Order)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Amazing how easily they succeed.

They succeed because people, even some conservatives on FR, love to have their prejudices stroked. Leftist agitators like the washington compost are really good at stroking peoples' prejudices.

33 posted on 01/08/2015 8:12:19 AM PST by NorthMountain
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To: eyeamok

Thankfully the RC Church has done a LOT of major bigtime clean-up in that area.


34 posted on 01/08/2015 8:13:14 AM PST by Biggirl (2014 MIdterms Were BOTH A Giant Wave And Restraining Order)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Christians are supposed to ‘turn the other cheek’.
Muslims are supposed to cut your head off....................


35 posted on 01/08/2015 8:13:21 AM PST by Red Badger (If you compromise with evil, you just get more evil..........................)
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To: exit82

I realize that, but people that live in glass house should not be throwing stones.


36 posted on 01/08/2015 8:13:39 AM PST by eyeamok
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To: PATRIOT1876

Donohue is an idiot and his reasoning is flawed. Charlie Hebdo is not guilty of “intolerance”. Charlie Hebdo is not an arm of the French government passing laws that are “intolerant” of Muslims. Charlie Hebdo is a privately- owned satirical review exercising freedom of speech for its readers. As much as you may not like how or what they are criticizing, to justify blaming them for their own deaths is siding with the jihadists who are using France’s overly accommodating policies towards Muslims to silence any dissent, and to thus cement the death of France and the rise of a new Islamist state in her place. Consciously or subconsciously, attacks like this one scare people into willingly forfeiting their free speech rights. The numbers are where they need to be. France has a population of Muslims which has reached over 10 percent of the total population of 66 million and France itself has begun to allow local communities of Muslims to “govern themselves”. Balkanization. France is heading for the cultural ash heap and we in America had better take note because Islamic immigration to America has spiked this past year and there are too many in government here who refuse to connect terrorism with the Muslim population and who are acting and speaking publicly and privately in an accomodationist manner toward the introduction of Sharia law in American jurisprudence. Sharia law condones the murder of all “infidels”. Their goal is to install the Caliphate worldwide. And the U.S. is in their way.


37 posted on 01/08/2015 8:13:42 AM PST by 4Runner
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To: Kevin C

If these people think the cartoonists deserve it, then what do they think of the millions on the Internet that post far more insulting and degrading things about islam??

Selective outrage seems to be another Islamic trait...also the trait of idiots I must add.


38 posted on 01/08/2015 8:15:13 AM PST by CodeToad (Islam should be outlawed and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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To: eyeamok

On the street I hear this is a problem among all denominations’ clergy. 100 years ago it was virtually unthinkable. A libertine (not libertarian, libertine) society has managed to worm its bad morals into the churches.

The Roman church gets such opprobrium because it is a single large target. Hardly anybody is complaining about little indie churches. But they have roughly equal rates of such trouble. The post of preacher or priest or minister allows certain access to kids, and perverts will exploit that.

I disagree with the Roman folks on some matters of theology. But in this regard they have scarcely distinguished themselves as being particularly bad among Christendom.


39 posted on 01/08/2015 8:15:38 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: NorthMountain

IMHO, “Charlie Hebdo” was France’s version of “Mad Magazine”, no more, no less.

I am a fan of neither magazine, but what took place in France should very well be a warning to not take our precious liberties for granted.


40 posted on 01/08/2015 8:16:56 AM PST by Biggirl (2014 MIdterms Were BOTH A Giant Wave And Restraining Order)
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